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Alice Evans/ Ioan Gruffydd misogyny

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Lifeswhatyoumakeit73 · 09/06/2023 16:45

It’s all over the papers that Ioan Gryffudds 13 year old daughter has taken out a restraining order against him due to him & his girlfriends violent behaviour to his eldest daughter. And I have seen loads of comments blaming Alice Evans for it.

Its incredible misogynistic bollocks. She seems to have been blamed for him leaving her & their children, for him not seeing his kids for years, for him running off with a younger woman & now for his behaviour towards his daughter which has resulted in her asking for a restraining order against her father.

How can it always be the fault of the woman? It’s horrible misogyny. He left his family & ran off with a younger woman!

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Cheeseandlobster · 09/06/2023 21:14

Mummyoflittledragon · 09/06/2023 19:41

This sounds far fetched tbh. The house was reportedly worth $2m, which is loads to the average person, but not to a serious actor. On the other thread, it said he seemed to manage to pay to jet around the world, holidaying, with Bianca. My priority as a parent would be bills first, jollies later.

He is not a massively popular actor. And he certainly is less so than he was because of Alice causing mayhem. Paying that sort of mortgage plus school fees in LA would be extortionate
And most of the 'jollies' were for the acting work he did have with Bianca in tow

NotSoBigCrocodile · 09/06/2023 21:15

Over40Overdating · 09/06/2023 18:58

I think both parents should be ashamed of themselves - a 13 year old girl is being called a brat and narcissistic and accused of abusing her father and his girlfriend by grown adults on the internet, because people’s obsessive hatred of Alice (which may be warranted as much as hatred of a total stranger can be) to defend Ioan (who, while a DV victim, is not blameless in how the fallout has been managed) using any means necessary to paint one side as a devil and another an angel.

Alice is clearly not a stable or rational person, and Ioan clearly has proof she was abusive BUT there’s also room to say the recent situation could have been avoided by BOTH parents putting the children first.

I find it disturbing that a child can be torn to shreds so publicly because their father’s fan base can’t countenance the fact that he can be a DV victim and a shit dad at the same time.

Well said.

UneFoisAuChalet · 09/06/2023 22:00

I’m on MN every day and without fail, there’s a thread about a cheating DH or about how a woman wants to leave her DH for whatever reasons.

And without fail, we encourage the woman to leave the cheater and we support the woman leaving her husband.

Yet bizarrely, when it comes to this couple, it seems that the dissolution of this marriage defies all rules. Ioan G is not allowed to be a cheater, not allowed to leave an abusive marriage, not allowed to be human. He may be a great guy, he may not. According to court records, it was an abusive marriage and he’s chosen to walk away. Why isn’t he allowed to? Because he apparently cheated? Maybe he did, maybe he didn’t - who the fuck cares? It’s over.

He’s clearly paying support and trying to see his children. Much more than many other men. He’s left Alice, he doesn’t have to prove anything to her anymore.

Grapewrath · 09/06/2023 22:13

Alice Evans has been absolutely unhinged throughout this whole thing, and what she posted on socials was absolutely unnecessary and damaging to her children.
She really can’t accept he’s moved on.
id say she definitely had a hand in Rhys without a doubt. Poor kids.

TitoMojito · 09/06/2023 22:29

If you actually read the court papers, it's quite clear that Alice is not an innocent party here.

whumpthereitis · 09/06/2023 22:46

Malificent1 · 09/06/2023 18:48

He forced them to sell their home and claims to be skint.

He removed them from their school.

He didn’t see them for a year by his own choice because “covid”.

He is hardly father of the year.

He didn’t force them to sell the house, the financial circumstances did. They either sold it and paid the bank back, or it got repossessed.

See also the private schooling that neither parent could afford.

No idea what the situation was with covid, but I can absolutely understand why he did what his lawyers certainly advised him to do considering the situation was by no means amicable, and left it to the courts to sort out. Can you imagine him just turning up to see his kids with Alice there? With her losing her shit in front of them?

From what I can see he’s actually (wisely) listened to his lawyers every step of the way.

whumpthereitis · 09/06/2023 22:50

TitoMojito · 09/06/2023 22:29

If you actually read the court papers, it's quite clear that Alice is not an innocent party here.

Alice needs to put the drink and the pill bottle down, and in fact has needed to for a long time.

Him leaving her didn’t create this version of Alice, it just exposed it to a wider audience. This is a woman that has been picking fights with both fans and random hapless members of the public online and in real life for years.

bellac11 · 09/06/2023 22:51

AutumnCrow · 09/06/2023 16:49

Shouldn't this case be left within the confidentiality of the family court? I feel it's a bit shitty of the MailOnline to be reporting it.

People have campaigned for years that they want the family courts decisions to be made public and more transparency.

This is the result

Gracewithoutend · 09/06/2023 22:54

She's seriously cray cray

I never see men called cray cray. I wonder why that is?

whumpthereitis · 09/06/2023 23:00

Gracewithoutend · 09/06/2023 22:54

She's seriously cray cray

I never see men called cray cray. I wonder why that is?

Kanye West seems an obvious one.

whumpthereitis · 09/06/2023 23:01

whumpthereitis · 09/06/2023 23:00

Kanye West seems an obvious one.

Bam Margera another.

LizzieSiddal · 09/06/2023 23:11

Iv seen some of her late night SM and agree with the judge who gave her ex a restraining order in which she is not allowed to mention him on her SM. She comes across as either drunk or deranged or in some kind of “medication”. Whatever it is, she needs to shut up for the sake of her DDs.

However I was really shocked to hear about what happened with the 13 year old. The court documents say she’d told her dad she didn’t want to see his girlfriend and he completely ignored her, and when they got to the flat she was yhete. no wonder the poor child went batshit, especially after all the toxic stuff her mother must have fed her about Daddy’s new girlfriend.

I feel so sorry for both DDs and the parents need to grow up and put their children first.

Gracewithoutend · 09/06/2023 23:12

They might sing about cray. They might be cray. But I don't hear men described as "cray cray".

LifeIsPainHighness · 09/06/2023 23:12

It’s very interesting isn’t it - from the moment they split the press pegged Alice as crazy and bitter. But I believe the 13yo girl.

Sadly how the press treat women is a pretty good reflection of how family courts treat women and no doubt Gruff’s expensive lawyers will accuse Alice of parental alienation

NotSoBigCrocodile · 09/06/2023 23:14

Oh look, an Ioan super fan has wandered over from Tattle.

Anyone who wants to see the way these women think it is okay to speak about a traumatised 13 year old girl should take a look. It’s repulsive.

NotSoBigCrocodile · 09/06/2023 23:18

Posted too soon.

These women refer to Alice Evans as either “the Abuser” or c**t, whilst spouting page after page of abuse about Ioan and Alice’s young daughter.

QuintanaRoo · 09/06/2023 23:21

Lifeswhatyoumakeit73 · 09/06/2023 17:35

Sounds like he is also abusive then and maybe the courts will recognise that too.

Or the abuse against him is continuing and Alice is using the kids as weapons to continue abusing him? Seeing as she’s the only one proven to be an abuser. Have you seen the transcripts where she has said to her daughters if they want to see their dad they can fuck off? How damaging is that?

Ireolu · 09/06/2023 23:27

I think there is parental alienation at play here too. She is manipulating those children. All the 'adults' in this picture are failing those girls.

whumpthereitis · 09/06/2023 23:27

Gracewithoutend · 09/06/2023 23:12

They might sing about cray. They might be cray. But I don't hear men described as "cray cray".

The former was literally dubbed ‘Krazye’ in response to his recent antics, so yes men are dubbed crazy.

Not that it necessarily matters. That women have been maligned as ‘cray cray’ doesn’t mean that some aren’t in fact ‘cray cray’. Broken clocks are right twice a day.

LifeIsPainHighness · 09/06/2023 23:31

Kanye was criminal, crazy is too kind. As is ‘recent antics’. He stalked and harassed his ex wife for a prolonged period.

whumpthereitis · 09/06/2023 23:31

NotSoBigCrocodile · 09/06/2023 23:14

Oh look, an Ioan super fan has wandered over from Tattle.

Anyone who wants to see the way these women think it is okay to speak about a traumatised 13 year old girl should take a look. It’s repulsive.

Never posted on Tattle, or looked at it beyond a brief peruse. Have never met Ioan so can’t comment on him, have met Alice though and can confirm that she is indeed a twat that needs to put the bottle down and get off whatever pills she’s popping.

whumpthereitis · 09/06/2023 23:32

LifeIsPainHighness · 09/06/2023 23:31

Kanye was criminal, crazy is too kind. As is ‘recent antics’. He stalked and harassed his ex wife for a prolonged period.

Can one not be both?

Merlin69 · 09/06/2023 23:58

Is Alice going to keep creating threads on here and Twitter because she thinks she’ll eventually gets the responses she wants? It’s not going to happen because for the vast majority, even when people dislike Ioan’s behaviour, they think her behaviour is shameful too.

She is so thin skinned that she can’t accept advice or a differing viewpoint let alone any form of criticism so what’s the point in seeking it out?! Alice, you’re not likeable to many based on your behaviour, either accept that or if you can’t, stop behaving liked the cliche of a woman scorned

AngeloMysterioso · 10/06/2023 00:25

Lifeswhatyoumakeit73 · 09/06/2023 17:33

Is it her fault (as is being portrayed) that her daughter took out a restraining order against him? Is that an established fact?

The parental alienation of the children by Alice has been proven and documented. So yeah, it kind of is.

I don’t think the eldest daughter is a brat but I do think she needs to learn a lesson or two. Like how you don’t get to decide whether or not your father’s partner, who he lives with, is present in her own home when you go to visit. You don’t get to trash their home, throw food all over the place and have a toddler tantrum when you don’t get your way.

TheSunnySide · 10/06/2023 00:28

It is So interesting to see there are still fanatic fans who insist that anyone starting a thread where they supports Alice Evans, IS Alice Evans. That takes a special kind of crazy.

whatever the situation it seems incredibly strange that this father is so insistent that his children spend time with someone they have told him they don’t want to spend time with. How old is he, about 50? Yet he is acting like a complete idiot and placing his new partner above his children. He seems to have so little awareness of what parenting is, but then again didn’t he leave all the parenting to his wife and poss off halfway round the world for months on end.

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