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Alice Evans/ Ioan Gruffydd misogyny

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Lifeswhatyoumakeit73 · 09/06/2023 16:45

It’s all over the papers that Ioan Gryffudds 13 year old daughter has taken out a restraining order against him due to him & his girlfriends violent behaviour to his eldest daughter. And I have seen loads of comments blaming Alice Evans for it.

Its incredible misogynistic bollocks. She seems to have been blamed for him leaving her & their children, for him not seeing his kids for years, for him running off with a younger woman & now for his behaviour towards his daughter which has resulted in her asking for a restraining order against her father.

How can it always be the fault of the woman? It’s horrible misogyny. He left his family & ran off with a younger woman!

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Orbitsound · 09/06/2023 18:04

Butchyrestingface · 09/06/2023 17:57

Well, I suppose Alice is as entitled to post on Mumsnet as the next person. 🤷🏻‍♀️

😆

PutinSmellsPassItOn · 09/06/2023 18:06

Lifeswhatyoumakeit73 · 09/06/2023 18:00

@PutinSmellsPassItOn yes but she’s still a CHILD and you are trying to justify the comments against her.

Jesus, the state of some of this.

The ways she's behaving is arsehole behaviour, she's abusive. And she's behaving like that because the courts in their wisdom gave primary custody to her deranged and abusive mother. Is it her fault ? No. She didn't ask to be raised in that atmosphere........but at the same time we shouldn't be blindly defending women and the circumstances because this time the victim of abuse was a man who's just trying to be a dad to his kids who have been allowed to be turned against him.

The only thing that should come out of this is that the younger child be placed with him to at least give her a chance of becoming a decent adult and the older child be given a fuckton of therapy well away from her mother.

HatchetJob · 09/06/2023 18:08

He is allowed to leave his wife at any point for any reason, it’s a free society. I know she seemed to think he owed her for giving her ‘career’ which seemed fairly non existent. After watching 102 Dalmatian’s at least 102 times I can tell you she was never much of an actress.
The way she has talked and talked and shared everything was never going to end well for any of them. Especially the children. There should be laws about talking about your children in public like this, they shouldn’t be in the press
at all.

whumpthereitis · 09/06/2023 18:08

Have encountered Alice when they were still together, and she’s been an arsehole for years. The drinking doesn’t help.

Lifeswhatyoumakeit73 · 09/06/2023 18:08

The hypocrisy on this thread is spectacular!

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Whatyoutalkingabouteh · 09/06/2023 18:11

Lifeswhatyoumakeit73 · 09/06/2023 17:20

Yes but HE had the affair by all accounts while he was still with Alice Evans- something in mumsnet terms which is normally a hanging offence. Yet she gets blamed for literally everything. I find it utter hypocrisy tbh.

She’s getting blamed for her behaviour though? Not that he had an affair. Understandably she was upset/devastated but the way she handled it was night right and why she’s now not allowed to comment about him or the girlfriend on social media I believe.

JustforAlice · 09/06/2023 18:11

I agree Putin (not a phrase I thought I would ever use 😂) but as far as I know no court has ordered on custody. Custody hearing is coming soon but can’t remember the date. Alice just assumed primary custody I think and Ioan has been requesting 50/50 and therapy for both girls for many many months. Personally I think he needs 100% custody and the oldest daughter needs a long long residential therapy stint.

ghostyslovesheets · 09/06/2023 18:14

Lifeswhatyoumakeit73 · 09/06/2023 18:08

The hypocrisy on this thread is spectacular!

I'm not sure you understand what hypocrisy means

OP you just seem to be here for a row - shouting at stranger on the internet about people you don;t know and a case you have no knowledge of is unhealthy

sorry Alice - go back to twitter

JustforAlice · 09/06/2023 18:15

Lifeswhatyoumakeit73 · 09/06/2023 18:08

The hypocrisy on this thread is spectacular!

could you point out where the hypocrisy is? I can’t find any….

TedMullins · 09/06/2023 18:15

I wouldn’t be surprised if AE has BPD. I haven’t been following this saga closely but I’ve seen some of her videos and her behaviour reminds me of me when I was very miserable and I medicated. I have a BPD diagnosis, I dated some right arseholes but I didn’t help myself - I’d say and do things just to hurt them if they wronged me, I’d get very vindictive and spiteful and on occasion I was abusive. She needs help.

Butchyrestingface · 09/06/2023 18:16

Yes but HE had the affair by all accounts while he was still with Alice Evans

No, by ALICE's accounts, not everyone's. Hmm

Not that I care either way. Your husband leaving you, whether for someone else or because he just don't want to be married anymore, isn't an excuse to behave the way she has.

So slanderous and batshit were her rants in the lead-up to the injunction, that even the tabloid rags balked at printing the finer detail.

justasking111 · 09/06/2023 18:19

My friend fell apart when her husband left her after a long standing affair. She smashed up his car, told the children things children don't need to know. Was a secret drinker until the children called the police because mummy was driving drunk and they thought she would crash and die.

It was never played out in the media for all to know unlike this marriage and the Jolie Pitt one.

It's the children I feel sorry for in every case.

Scentedrose · 09/06/2023 18:47

ghostyslovesheets · 09/06/2023 18:14

I'm not sure you understand what hypocrisy means

OP you just seem to be here for a row - shouting at stranger on the internet about people you don;t know and a case you have no knowledge of is unhealthy

sorry Alice - go back to twitter

This.

Malificent1 · 09/06/2023 18:48

He forced them to sell their home and claims to be skint.

He removed them from their school.

He didn’t see them for a year by his own choice because “covid”.

He is hardly father of the year.

Lifeswhatyoumakeit73 · 09/06/2023 18:53

@Malificent1 quite. But judging by the pile on on this thread, we are in the minority!

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Cheeseandlobster · 09/06/2023 18:54

Lifeswhatyoumakeit73 · 09/06/2023 17:20

Yes but HE had the affair by all accounts while he was still with Alice Evans- something in mumsnet terms which is normally a hanging offence. Yet she gets blamed for literally everything. I find it utter hypocrisy tbh.

What a load of old rubbish. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest he had an affair unless you count Alice's drunken allegations.

It is likely that Alice has been dripping poison into her children's ears for years now. I feel sorry for them as they are being massively manipulated. It's parental alienation at its very best

Over40Overdating · 09/06/2023 18:58

I think both parents should be ashamed of themselves - a 13 year old girl is being called a brat and narcissistic and accused of abusing her father and his girlfriend by grown adults on the internet, because people’s obsessive hatred of Alice (which may be warranted as much as hatred of a total stranger can be) to defend Ioan (who, while a DV victim, is not blameless in how the fallout has been managed) using any means necessary to paint one side as a devil and another an angel.

Alice is clearly not a stable or rational person, and Ioan clearly has proof she was abusive BUT there’s also room to say the recent situation could have been avoided by BOTH parents putting the children first.

I find it disturbing that a child can be torn to shreds so publicly because their father’s fan base can’t countenance the fact that he can be a DV victim and a shit dad at the same time.

Fatkittythinkitty · 09/06/2023 19:08

Over40Overdating · 09/06/2023 18:58

I think both parents should be ashamed of themselves - a 13 year old girl is being called a brat and narcissistic and accused of abusing her father and his girlfriend by grown adults on the internet, because people’s obsessive hatred of Alice (which may be warranted as much as hatred of a total stranger can be) to defend Ioan (who, while a DV victim, is not blameless in how the fallout has been managed) using any means necessary to paint one side as a devil and another an angel.

Alice is clearly not a stable or rational person, and Ioan clearly has proof she was abusive BUT there’s also room to say the recent situation could have been avoided by BOTH parents putting the children first.

I find it disturbing that a child can be torn to shreds so publicly because their father’s fan base can’t countenance the fact that he can be a DV victim and a shit dad at the same time.

I agree. Poor poor kids.

Stravaig · 09/06/2023 19:10

I don't know if you've ever seen the interview where he describes his proposal to AE - he tells it as if it's a lovely, funny story, but reading between the lines it sounds awful and she sounds, well, odd.

If he'd posted that engagement story on Mumsnet before walking down the aisle, he'd have been told to run for the hills!

BriarHare · 09/06/2023 19:12

I have loosely followed this story and don’t think the opprobrium direct at Alice is misogyny. It’s because she’s bloody unhinged.

adviceneeded1990 · 09/06/2023 19:24

Lifeswhatyoumakeit73 · 09/06/2023 17:20

Yes but HE had the affair by all accounts while he was still with Alice Evans- something in mumsnet terms which is normally a hanging offence. Yet she gets blamed for literally everything. I find it utter hypocrisy tbh.

I suggest reading the public court documents which were filed before she was subjected to the PRO. The women is abusive, dangerous and unhinged.

cisisaslur · 09/06/2023 19:26

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This has been withdrawn by MNHQ at the poster's request.

I was thinking this

thebellagio · 09/06/2023 19:34

Malificent1 · 09/06/2023 18:48

He forced them to sell their home and claims to be skint.

He removed them from their school.

He didn’t see them for a year by his own choice because “covid”.

He is hardly father of the year.

He had to sell the house and couldn’t pay the school fees because Alice Evans has literally done everything she could to ruin his career and stop his earning potential.

AE is batshit crazy and both his daughters will need extensive therapy to cope with this divorce.

Mummyoflittledragon · 09/06/2023 19:37

Rapidtango · 09/06/2023 17:25

Alice Evans had an affair with a co- star long before Ioan Gruffud left her. And he was allowed to leave her - I should imagine she was incredibly difficult to be married to. I don't know if you've ever seen the interview where he describes his proposal to AE - he tells it as if it's a lovely, funny story, but reading between the lines it sounds awful and she sounds, well, odd.

It comes across that there has been a lot of parental alienation, AE using her daughters as emotional crutches, and she has whipped her fans into an abusive, frenzied circus, posting really awful things about IG and his girlfriend on social media.

I’ve just watched that video interview. It cut before the end. But saw the part, where she was calling him boring. Then her shouting at him, saying he wouldn’t be sleeping in the bed, saying she hates him, storming off.

I’m baffled. If this is genuinely true, why would you marry the person? It seems evident the dynamics in the relationship don’t work.

Mummyoflittledragon · 09/06/2023 19:41

thebellagio · 09/06/2023 19:34

He had to sell the house and couldn’t pay the school fees because Alice Evans has literally done everything she could to ruin his career and stop his earning potential.

AE is batshit crazy and both his daughters will need extensive therapy to cope with this divorce.

This sounds far fetched tbh. The house was reportedly worth $2m, which is loads to the average person, but not to a serious actor. On the other thread, it said he seemed to manage to pay to jet around the world, holidaying, with Bianca. My priority as a parent would be bills first, jollies later.

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