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Alice Evans/ Ioan Gruffydd misogyny

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Lifeswhatyoumakeit73 · 09/06/2023 16:45

It’s all over the papers that Ioan Gryffudds 13 year old daughter has taken out a restraining order against him due to him & his girlfriends violent behaviour to his eldest daughter. And I have seen loads of comments blaming Alice Evans for it.

Its incredible misogynistic bollocks. She seems to have been blamed for him leaving her & their children, for him not seeing his kids for years, for him running off with a younger woman & now for his behaviour towards his daughter which has resulted in her asking for a restraining order against her father.

How can it always be the fault of the woman? It’s horrible misogyny. He left his family & ran off with a younger woman!

OP posts:
Againstmachine · 11/06/2023 14:29

leilani83 · 11/06/2023 14:20

YANBU OP. Women always, always get the flak when relationships end, whatever the reason.

How dare Alice Evans express her hurt and have a public (probably menopausal) meltdown?? Doesn't she know that women are expected to simply fade into the background with 'dignity' when they have served their useful purpose to a man & the society = being young, pretty and available.

There's having a meltdown this isnt a meltdown it's been a long protracted series of abuse, Alice needs to get help.

And no I'm not a ioan superfan.

leilani83 · 11/06/2023 14:34

Maybe she needs help, I don't know, but it's hard to be rational when you're in the middle of a meltdown and your hubby is rubbing his peccadilloes in your face. And people hate you and call you cray-cray.

Againstmachine · 11/06/2023 14:53

leilani83 · 11/06/2023 14:34

Maybe she needs help, I don't know, but it's hard to be rational when you're in the middle of a meltdown and your hubby is rubbing his peccadilloes in your face. And people hate you and call you cray-cray.

She isn't In the middle of a meltdown this has been going on since they split in January 2021 and is still going on.

He hasn't been running his peccadilloes in her face.

People dislike her because of her actions.

Spamlla · 11/06/2023 15:01

He was wrong to have an affair while married. And his actions haven’t been impeccable. But she’s been publicly abusive and has come across as totally deranged with her behaviour. So it seems reasonable that he left, because quite frankly she’s nuts.

QuintanaRoo · 11/06/2023 15:09

Spamlla · 11/06/2023 15:01

He was wrong to have an affair while married. And his actions haven’t been impeccable. But she’s been publicly abusive and has come across as totally deranged with her behaviour. So it seems reasonable that he left, because quite frankly she’s nuts.

Did he have an affair? He wasn’t linked to Bianca until nine months after he left his marriage. 🤷‍♀️

Againstmachine · 11/06/2023 15:18

Spamlla · 11/06/2023 15:01

He was wrong to have an affair while married. And his actions haven’t been impeccable. But she’s been publicly abusive and has come across as totally deranged with her behaviour. So it seems reasonable that he left, because quite frankly she’s nuts.

There is no evidence he has an affair, and Alice was nuts and controlling way before they split up, look up her running of his fan page.

Butchyrestingface · 11/06/2023 15:28

There is no evidence he has an affair, and Alice was nuts and controlling way before they split up, look up her running of his fan page.

She appears to have been unhinged before they got MARRIED, so he arguably ignored more red flags than a Communist parade back then. But he hardly the first, won't be the last.

Merlin69 · 11/06/2023 19:36

Againstmachine · 11/06/2023 14:12

Of course 12 year olds can be twats and I will call any kid I want to a twat.

But no this is part of problem kids of 12 have terrorized people, committed arson, but no you can't call them a twat when all their behavior is twattish.

You must live a really sheltered lifestyle.

Yes children do sometimes behave appalling so your answer to that is to call them horrid names?! Why stop at just name calling, perhaps give them a quick slap or two as well, that way you can really show them how to adult and who’s the boss 🤔

I don’t live a sheltered life, I just disagree and worry about parents like you who are teaching your children that it’s justifiable to verbally abuse someone if you decide their behaviour warrants it (Alice once claimed that she didn’t abuse anyone other than people who ‘deserved it’). I mean you could be emotionally intelligent and instead look to do something to try solve the root cause of the child behaving badly rather than calling them names but then I guess you wouldn’t get your kicks from that

AuroraCake · 12/06/2023 08:39

I haven't liked Ioan Gruffadd for many years. Not since that King Arthur film...maybe 20 years ago was filming near me and there was quite the reputation of him sleeping about. He was with Alice at the time. Also over the years from interviews with Alice got the impression that she was quite controlling but he well not the best.

They never came across as healthy. When he was in Liar hadnt seen him for years and just went yuck him.

But the only thing that matters here are the kids. He should have kept his girlfriend out of it because they weren't ready and maybe never will be. They are harbouring a lot of pain and trauma over this separation. They are children and he should never have called her names no matter what they did. They at the very least are carrying huge attachment issues with their father and this is how kids like that behave and really doesn't matter if their mother is pouring poison in their ears. This is about them. He should have been their father. He may never repair his relationship because it doesn't matter what Alice has done, he isn't a great Dad either by the sounds. He should have made space for those girls and take it one step at a time to their timetable. They're the victims.

MissTeddyBear · 28/06/2023 16:31

It was the mother's fault, who the hell gave her the idea and encouraged/frightened her into the bad behaviour she exhibited?

MissTeddyBear · 28/06/2023 16:34

I blame the mother. The child is a victim to her mother's actions and behaviour. Those poor girls need to be taken off the mother and sent somewhere to get intensive therapy so they can have healthy relationships with their dad, BW and every other person they will encounter in life.

adviceneeded1990 · 28/06/2023 21:44

Merlin69 · 10/06/2023 22:29

You’ve just called your son’s ‘classmate’, a child ‘a bit of a twat’. Sorry but I think you should have sat on your hands for this one too if you think it’s appropriate to call a child names like that

As a teacher of this age group, I can assure you that I have met many a 12 year old who I’d describe as a bit of a twat! Most grow out of it and become lovely adults 😆

LoopyLoo1991 · 29/06/2023 00:30

I bet there's loads of details we aren't aware of.
But stupid to point the finger at his ex?
Sure more stuff will come out.

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Yes, it's disgusting that domestic abuse is being excused just because it's a woman doing it.

A vagina is not a magically get out of jail free card for being abusive.

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