Another dog attack

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There is a horrific video on twitter of a young woman being attacked in east London by three dogs

owner in hoodie , pit bull types .

I am a dog owner but also have ended up in hospital after a dog attack and it made me feel sick

honestly I think we need dog licences , dog wardens and more accountability because the current laws don’t seem to be deterring people letting dogs off their leads and having no control . If it prices some owners out I am sorry tough luck . Dogs are expensive and there needs to be some more incentive to keep them under control .

Oh & nice attempt at straw man with farm animals, pets ARE different.

I'm vegetarian, vegan for a long time & mostly still eat vegan, don't buy leather or products with animal by products. Not completely vegan as I no longer refuse to eat bread etc when travelling & am unable to confirm it's vegan.

@FrostyFifi

anyone who would delight in the shooting of dogs is sick. They shouldn't be allowed to own any pet & probably not allowed to keep their kids either. They not functioning in a healthy manner

@ThursdayFreedom I used to go hunting too, clearly I'm an utter psychopath.

@ThursdayFreedom I think anyone who thinks that Millions a 9 month old Pup, held in a choke pole, tasered and then let loose so he could run screaming in pain towards his owner while dragging the still twitching body of his brother Marshall after him and then gunned down in cold blood actually DESERVED it, is sick. I saw the whole video of the death of these two dogs and I was sick, it will never leave me

Well I AM vegan, for more than half my life. If you were ever vegan (and there's no such thing as an ex-vegan - you either understand that animals are not ours to use, and you don't ever sway from that, or, you were only ever plant-based) you'd view animals as equal.
I haven't said anything about banning dogs. But I'd gladly do away with the dangerous ones because not only do I value human life, there are thousands upon thousands of "pet" animals mauled by bully breed dogs (see FB group Protect Our Pets UK). 99% of the time, it's bully breeds.

Bread? That's your sticking point for not being vegan? Ridiculous. I've been vegan for 25 years, well-travelled, and I have managed perfectly well. My kids are tweens and lifelong vegans, they too have managed perfectly well.

It would give me no pleasure at all to euthanise a dog, but I think the alternative is waiting for another human death.

Follow anti pit pages and see the damage a 9mo pit can cause. It was huge, and it was coming at the officer. I don't envy him his job, and immglad he didn't get mauled. It was the owner's fault. He let go of the leash.

Exactly. And a small needle of euthanisia would be a kind death, as opposed to the ones bully breeds inflict on other animals, including us.

I meant needle of euthanisia juice or whatever it is.

What will never leave me are the harrowing accounts of the parents of the children killed by dogs.

There have been twenty seven of them since the Dangerous Dogs Act was passed. Contrary to the endless protestations on here about ‘children not knowing how to approach dogs’ none of the children appeared to have purposefully approached any of the dogs.

Eleven of those children were babies aged under six months, so unlikely to have been tormenting the dogs in any way. As far as I can see all the rest were indulging in activities such as being off school sick (Lexi Branson, who was four years old) building a snowman (Dean Parker, who was seven) or visiting a friend (Jack Lis, who was ten.)

I don’t really want to see animals killed for the sake of it but can you imagine being the parents of those children? It isn’t JUST losing your child. It’s knowing their final moments were agony and terror beyond belief. I would be petrified if one of those dogs went for me. Those poor, poor children

That's what I don't get. How someone can be apparently indifferent to a poor, terrified screaming young women being savagely attacked, yet have lifelong trauma from the video of those two dogs getting shot?

That's just in the UK. The US has a far bigger problem with these killer dogs. My best friend lives there and lives in fear of the one opposite her house attacking her kids. It's no way to live. Kids can't even play in their own front yard.

And yes, poor kids. Such an agonising way to die. And in the case of those parents whose dog it was, the guilt will never leave them.

I don't get it either. Definitely sick in the head.
It's the same with the justgiving sites - a dog gets attacked, or a Pitbull needs porcupine needles pulling out of its face, and the $$$ roll in. Kid gets mauled, slow slow times to raise money to help (America).

@SheSeIIsSeaShells I've noticed that as well. Plus the whole rescue pet rescue industry in general where dogs that should clearly be put out of their misery are kept going at the cost of tens of thousands by what I can only call animal obsessives.

Contrary to what some previous posters have inferred, I'm perfectly fond of animals and I can only imagine there must be an enourmous increase in people's harmless pet dogs being attacked and mauled as well. Not to mention the odd unfortunate police horse.

Copied from Reddit:

"Best Friends Animal Society was featured in this Canadian public broadcast service production.

It’s a long production, and although it features pitbulls, the real problem is dogs.

Around time 16:51, there is an interesting moment, featuring the interviewer, Mark Kelly, and Ledy VanKavage, the senior Legislative Attorney and Best Friends Animal Society Chair.

She seems to suggest that it was ok for 2 pit bulls to drag a baby out of a babysitter’s arms and eviscerate him, because they child might have been crying.

Interesting values, don’t you think?"

So yeah, Pitbull apologists think a baby merely crying sparked the Pitbull to attack.

Bloody hell! I'll give that a watch just now.

@SheSeIIsSeaShells there have also been a spate of fatal pit bull attacks on children in the country I'm from - it's got a dangerously high crime rate so people keep them for protection but unfortunately more often than not it seems to be women and children they kill.

In one recent case, the local community beat the dogs to death and I can assure whoever was upset by the London footage that that was pretty tame by comparison.

I'm sorry your home country is dealing with the plague that is pitbulls, and the Pitbull lobby.

I'm half-way through the documentary now. That poor little baby boy. He was such a smiley little thing.

@@SheSeIIsSeaShells

ibbet you're all a lot less vegan than you think you are.

@SheSeIIsSeaShells did you see that video then? the dogs were NOT coming for the Police, one (Marshall) stepped forward and barked The owner was still holding Marshall on his lead when the police SHOT the dog, the video was clear the dog was lying DEAD at his feet only then did he let go and ran as there was a wall of police coming towards him and one had a gun Millions was subdued by the catch pole he was no threat, so why was he deliberately let loose (and that is very clear on the video) well there was one reason and that was to let him run towards his owner so they had an excuse to gun him down in cold blood, I think one of the 1000s of people rightly protesting about the killings sums it up, an American woman living in New York (one of the most dangerous cities in the world where she is used to seeing cops with guns) she was horrified and sickened and in her own words totally traumatised by what she saw. If those Dogs were dangerous and out of control why was Millions under the care of Dogs on the Streets a charity that looks after Dogs owned by homeless people (although the owner was not homeless he lived on a boat which was where he was going so he could put the dogs away before speaking to the police) and they are the Charity who are fund raising for the owners defence, would a charity reliant of donations purposely support someone with out of control dogs - I don't think so. But the someone who follows an anti dog page is going to be totally biased.

Then stop ruining peoples lives.

Because dog owners are making peoples lives hell every single day for years , perhaps thats why.

Nothing is going to change with dog attacks until people stop calling them fur babies and start remembering that they need training properly.

Today I was out for a walk with my husband and some people were walking their dog and made a dash across a pretty busy road in front of us. I wondered why at first until I realised that there was an incredibly reactive dog on the other side, yapping and barking away like anything. And the owner had a baby in a pram as well. Why on earth would you have such a reactive dog alongside a baby.

Some owners are really really stupid.

It's not about the breeds, it's about the owners. We hear about the bad attacks like this, but we don't hear about all the other incidents where dogs attack people (and other dogs).