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singleforareason · 2023-06-04T21:29:44+00:00

A quick poll. I suspect I’m being a little unreasonable. Not that I assume the toxic culture of someone’s workplace is any indication of their individual character but from Stephen Lawrence to Bibaa Henry, Nicole Smallman and Sarah Everard would anyone not see this job as a red flag?

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singleforareason · 07/06/2023 16:47

momtoboys · 07/06/2023 15:52

A couple of additions to my previous post. Police in our area are FAR from low pay. Even first years make close to $100,000 with mandatory OT. My DH is also really handsome and appealing and looks great in a uniform, which sadly he wears much less often in his current rank. 😉

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It’s not such a well paid job to have in London, not that it makes any difference to whether I find someone attractive or not.

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singleforareason · 07/06/2023 16:49

Of course if they take a risk and something goes wrong they are also criticised for that...

Of course, isn’t it the first rule of misogyny? Women are to blame when men do something bad.

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nopuppiesallowed · 07/06/2023 17:48

Catchasingmewithspiders · 07/06/2023 16:19

We aren't referring to the press. My post above came from the actually Met Police Commissioner saying:

I’m accepting we have racists, misogynists. I’m accepting, we’ve got systemic failings, management failings, cultural failings.

Thats not the press, thats the man in charge of the Met

But still women are critisised if they are risk averse.

Of course if they take a risk and something goes wrong they are also criticised for that...

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I may be wrong but wasn't that at the time when a woman (Cressida Dick?) was in charge of the Met? If so, she really needed to have dealt with it, although addressing and solving the issue will take a generation or two. And I wonder if the same scrutiny has been applied to the NHS and to the teaching profession?
I actually think that the people who should begin changing attitudes are the parents and school systems. Educating children out of racism, misogyny etc should begin from the earliest years.

Catchasingmewithspiders · 07/06/2023 17:51

nopuppiesallowed · 07/06/2023 17:48

I may be wrong but wasn't that at the time when a woman (Cressida Dick?) was in charge of the Met? If so, she really needed to have dealt with it, although addressing and solving the issue will take a generation or two. And I wonder if the same scrutiny has been applied to the NHS and to the teaching profession?
I actually think that the people who should begin changing attitudes are the parents and school systems. Educating children out of racism, misogyny etc should begin from the earliest years.

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No the quote is from the new comissioner Sir Mark Rowley

Do the NHS and teachers need scrutinising to the same extent?

egowise · 07/06/2023 17:55

nopuppiesallowed · 07/06/2023 17:48

I may be wrong but wasn't that at the time when a woman (Cressida Dick?) was in charge of the Met? If so, she really needed to have dealt with it, although addressing and solving the issue will take a generation or two. And I wonder if the same scrutiny has been applied to the NHS and to the teaching profession?
I actually think that the people who should begin changing attitudes are the parents and school systems. Educating children out of racism, misogyny etc should begin from the earliest years.

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It's funny how those in favour of the police will blame literally anybody but the police.

EamonsPalliativeCareTracksuit · 07/06/2023 17:57

No.

Catchasingmewithspiders · 07/06/2023 18:04

egowise · 07/06/2023 17:55

It's funny how those in favour of the police will blame literally anybody but the police.

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Exactly. What else can we blame sodding teachers and parents for?

Given none of the other police forces are as bad as the Met, there may be problems but not on the same scale, isnt it possible that its the Met that's the issue?

Unless schooling and parenting is wildly different in London to the rest of the UK?

PinkRiceKrispies · 07/06/2023 18:06

Yes I would. Ridiculous to tar all police with the same brush.
One of my colleagues been married to a policeman for almost 50 years. The vast majority of the police force do an amazing job and we would be screwed without them.

nopuppiesallowed · 07/06/2023 20:41

@Catchasingmewithspiders
If I'm blaming teachers and parents, the finger is pointing squarely at me as I'm a parent and was a teacher. And i wasn't blaming anyone. I was just saying that the way children (mine included) are brought up has an impact on how they behave as adults. It's not the only factor but it's definitely one of them.

BodegaSushi · 07/06/2023 20:57

nopuppiesallowed · 07/06/2023 20:41

@Catchasingmewithspiders
If I'm blaming teachers and parents, the finger is pointing squarely at me as I'm a parent and was a teacher. And i wasn't blaming anyone. I was just saying that the way children (mine included) are brought up has an impact on how they behave as adults. It's not the only factor but it's definitely one of them.

It's not the poor policeman's fault, his parents/teachers didn't do a good enough job 🥲

I wonder if all of Wayne Couzens' classmates went on to murder as well, seeing as they were all clearly failed.

Don't point the finger at the MET that bred a culture that made other men think 'The Rapist' as he was nicknamed was funny and his 'jokes' about rape and murder was just bants, let's review Ofsted instead!

Do you not see how ridiculous that sounds?