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Pools and neighbourhood kids

351 replies

Imdonewithsergio · 04/06/2023 08:48

do your neighbours automatically assume their children can use your kids paddling pool? We have one neighbour who will literally send her child out with her swimming costume on if our pool is out. Child is 4. We have a large family (5 kids under 8). So I don’t feel comfortable having another little boy to add to the mix. I’ve tried speaking to them but I’m made out to be a selfish killjoy. The child in question is absolutely wild and my own kids give up and end up out the pool. She also sends her child into other neighbours gardens to use their pool/slide/water table/trampoline etc. it’s getting to the point I dread sunny days as this child just assumes they can come in here and use everything (the pool in particular bothers me as it’s the safety aspect. My youngest is 3 months old so I’m fairly busy as it is, trying to deal with a baby and watch my own young kids in water. Even with DH here it we are keeping a constant eye on them).

Am I just being miserable though?

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Rubbishagain · 05/06/2023 21:25

You lift him back over and return him with a polite but firm no thanks

2ndMrsdeWinter · 05/06/2023 21:28

We had this issue with our ndn and their kids, only difference is we have 2 dc and they have 4. I didn’t want to look after an extra 4 children in a pool on a Saturday afternoon when I’ve had a busy week. They stopped speaking to us after I said something, which suits me just fine.

Bignanny30 · 05/06/2023 21:28

Surely it’s a safety issue. Tell her that! You cannot be responsible for her child playing in your garden especially in water.

billy1966 · 05/06/2023 21:37

You are clearly a truly lovely woman.

Too nice.

Far, far nicer than I could ever be in this situation.

Your neighbour is an awful user.

Don't be used.

Get a fence asap.

Stop wanting to be her friend.

It will set you free.

She's a user not a friend.

Good luck 👍

browneyes77 · 05/06/2023 21:44

Imdonewithsergio · 04/06/2023 09:09

No, they lift him over the fence. When my back garden gate is open he just wanders in. So we learned to keep that closed. There’s a shared area behind the garden which isn’t accessible to the public, it’s got things like a basketball net, football goals etc and all the children on the street use this to cycle, play on scooters etc. so when gate was unlocked for older two kids to go and play, her son would walk in my house and things like that. So we learned to make sure it’s always locked unless we need it open.

I’d be lifting that child back over and saying “NO”.

F*ck that shit.

Emotionalsupportviper · 05/06/2023 22:13

fitzwilliamdarcy · 05/06/2023 18:17

I have visions of them firing him out of a cannon.

😂

. . . and hoping they hear a splash and not a splat!

Imdonewithsergio · 05/06/2023 23:27

Funmum2020 · 05/06/2023 18:11

Tell them no . If something happens its you'd feel awful! My son passed by drowning and now I dont even let my older kids go swimming without me . I don't know how any parent could let their child to be honest . Its also very rude for then to assume its OK it not the kids fault it tha parents

I’m so sorry for your loss

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Fraaahnces · 06/06/2023 03:15

We had issues with our NDN kids being sent to ours all the time. Between the harrassment of our kids (and us), the stealing, the raiding of food and the constant lack of accountability from their parents it caused a HUGE problem. (Their response was always “Kids will be kids” - 🤷‍♂️🤷🏼‍♀️) Interestingly, when I banned them from our house (after one bit my DD’s face) they became competitive. If we bought a trampoline, they would too (then it would be up against the fence next to the climbing frames and the swimming pool they bought to compete so the kids could climb up and yell “We’ve got an ice cream and you-oo do-on’t” at mine.) Amazing how quickly spiky rambling roses can grow. (The ones with the thorns grow the fastest.)

helpplease01 · 06/06/2023 04:00

Seriously!! No way accept this!!! How can you even doubt yourself here! It's your own house, your own garden, your own children.
March round there. Tell her in no uncertain terms to fucking stop this! You are being taken for a fool here.
Tell her to piss off and look after her her own kid! Cheeky cow!

user1492757084 · 06/06/2023 04:55

Invest in a prickly hedge, growing 12 inches inside your shared fenceline.

I looked up plants that might be suitable - they grow upwards and have prickles.
Red Regusa Rose
English Holly
Grevillea Jupiperina
Or plant very tall thick clumping, non invasive, Bamboo like Goldstripe just inside your fence and in two years it will be 4 metres tall..
Lock your gates and buy the little neighbour a Christmas present of his own paddling pool and sand pit combo.

user1492757084 · 06/06/2023 04:57

You could invest in a child proof pool fence.
Only open the gate when you are in there and never let any other children, without their supervising parent, enter.

Messyhair321 · 06/06/2023 07:28

@Imdonewithsergio you need to get some trellis to go along the top of the fence & smile when neighbour tries to send him around, 'sorry not a great day today, I'll send them over to yours sometime tomorrow play '
They're using you for freedom childcare. Cheeky & rude

Messyhair321 · 06/06/2023 07:30

'to play ' not tomorrow!

eastegg · 06/06/2023 07:48

Mamette · 04/06/2023 09:04

tried speaking to them but I’m made out to be a selfish killjoy.

Ok so you said something and they had the brass neck to refute it. You have to stand up for yourself- wtf does it matter what this person thinks of you? And by the way they don’t think you’re a selfish killjoy, they think you’re a soft touch who doesn’t want to be seen as a selfish killjoy.

”No- absolutely not, I am very busy with my own children and that goes for every day. I got my pool in Tescos I’m sure they still have them. Bye”.

This nails it nicely.

Itsanotherhreatday · 06/06/2023 07:50

Fences and bushes cost money
Saying No is free

Llian13 · 06/06/2023 07:57

What a cheek! Just say no or as someone else suggests, lock your gate.

Gothambutnotahamster · 06/06/2023 11:15

The gate is locked - they lift their child over!

Grrrrdarling · 06/06/2023 12:23

Imdonewithsergio · 04/06/2023 09:01

Thank you all. It was the same last year when I was pregnant and miserable with the heat so I didn’t know if I was just being a hormonal arse then. But it’s really bothering me again now. We bought a new pool yesterday for the kids and they were hardly in it as this little boy appeared and was just too rough for them. I didn’t know if I was just being a bit selfish as they genuinely do not seem to see the issue at all but our last house didn’t have kids on either side so we have ever encountered this before.

@Imdonewithsergio You are not being horrible, selfish or spiteful at all you are just setting boundaries; to keep your kids safe & happy.
Your pool is not a public pool & you are not there to provide free childcare for the CF mum!
Tell them as such.
You could offer an olive branch of your old pool, if it is still usable & clean, for CF mum to let her own kid play in & she can supervise them in it herself but I imagine that could be shot down as ‘I’m not a charity case’.
Again…you aren’t being horrible, selfish or spiteful at all you are just setting boundaries! CF mum is being horrible, selfish & spiteful expecting you & your kids to just put up & shut up!

evian76 · 06/06/2023 16:17

Agree that you need to say no but if you want to spin it to avoid backlash I would say that you are concerned about her child as you have too many to watch and a friend of yours had a neighbour’s child have an accident in her pool, and you are just too afraid of that happening - so you cannot have her child over anymore

Nanaof1 · 06/06/2023 16:29

Grrrrdarling · 06/06/2023 12:23

@Imdonewithsergio You are not being horrible, selfish or spiteful at all you are just setting boundaries; to keep your kids safe & happy.
Your pool is not a public pool & you are not there to provide free childcare for the CF mum!
Tell them as such.
You could offer an olive branch of your old pool, if it is still usable & clean, for CF mum to let her own kid play in & she can supervise them in it herself but I imagine that could be shot down as ‘I’m not a charity case’.
Again…you aren’t being horrible, selfish or spiteful at all you are just setting boundaries! CF mum is being horrible, selfish & spiteful expecting you & your kids to just put up & shut up!

I think in a PP the OP said the "kid lifters/droppers" have their own pool but their NSDS doesn't like being in it by himself. They should be told to go out and let their NSDS make some friends that can come to his house. (Though that would mean they had to watch kids and they are in the "lift and drop" camp.

Imdonewithsergio · 06/06/2023 18:38

Grrrrdarling · 06/06/2023 12:23

@Imdonewithsergio You are not being horrible, selfish or spiteful at all you are just setting boundaries; to keep your kids safe & happy.
Your pool is not a public pool & you are not there to provide free childcare for the CF mum!
Tell them as such.
You could offer an olive branch of your old pool, if it is still usable & clean, for CF mum to let her own kid play in & she can supervise them in it herself but I imagine that could be shot down as ‘I’m not a charity case’.
Again…you aren’t being horrible, selfish or spiteful at all you are just setting boundaries! CF mum is being horrible, selfish & spiteful expecting you & your kids to just put up & shut up!

That’s the thing- they have a decent pool and a hot tub but they still send him over.

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Grrrrdarling · 07/06/2023 00:10

Imdonewithsergio · 06/06/2023 18:38

That’s the thing- they have a decent pool and a hot tub but they still send him over.

@Imdonewithsergio Just tell them no then. Here was me thinking they were struggling to afford a pool for their kid! Clearly not. That makes that mum an even cheekier fluffer!!!

LookItsMeAgain · 07/06/2023 08:16

If they have a pool and are actively popping their child over the fence so that it's your pool that gets used, what you should do is pop their child back over the fence, followed swiftly by your own kids so that you get a break for a change. See if they kick off when they suddenly have 5+ kids to look after.

SaponificationQueen · 07/06/2023 09:19

LookItsMeAgain · 07/06/2023 08:16

If they have a pool and are actively popping their child over the fence so that it's your pool that gets used, what you should do is pop their child back over the fence, followed swiftly by your own kids so that you get a break for a change. See if they kick off when they suddenly have 5+ kids to look after.

That’s perfect. I bet it would never happen again.

Emotionalsupportviper · 07/06/2023 10:05

LookItsMeAgain · 07/06/2023 08:16

If they have a pool and are actively popping their child over the fence so that it's your pool that gets used, what you should do is pop their child back over the fence, followed swiftly by your own kids so that you get a break for a change. See if they kick off when they suddenly have 5+ kids to look after.

😂