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Pools and neighbourhood kids

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Imdonewithsergio · 04/06/2023 08:48

do your neighbours automatically assume their children can use your kids paddling pool? We have one neighbour who will literally send her child out with her swimming costume on if our pool is out. Child is 4. We have a large family (5 kids under 8). So I don’t feel comfortable having another little boy to add to the mix. I’ve tried speaking to them but I’m made out to be a selfish killjoy. The child in question is absolutely wild and my own kids give up and end up out the pool. She also sends her child into other neighbours gardens to use their pool/slide/water table/trampoline etc. it’s getting to the point I dread sunny days as this child just assumes they can come in here and use everything (the pool in particular bothers me as it’s the safety aspect. My youngest is 3 months old so I’m fairly busy as it is, trying to deal with a baby and watch my own young kids in water. Even with DH here it we are keeping a constant eye on them).

Am I just being miserable though?

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Imdonewithsergio · 04/06/2023 20:51

LocalHobo · 04/06/2023 17:28

sends her child into other neighbours gardens to use their pool/slide/water table/trampoline etc.

Which part of the world is this? Is your whole neighbourhood/street open to each other?

We each have individual back gardens but it’s a new development with a large, shared space behind it too which isn’t accessible to the public. It has play equipment in it (shared). So all the children tend to play there but this wee boy is encouraged into other peoples private gardens by his parents. So he using their trampolines, our water table etc. he even uses things when families aren’t there as the parents lift him over the fence. I know another set of neighbours are really struggling with it as they have a religion with a set day of the week where they have a sort of rest day and strictly observe this as a family, don’t play with the other kids in the street etc. and they still just send their son in.

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Orders76 · 04/06/2023 20:53

That's a good update!

hotinthesun · 04/06/2023 21:30

right 7 foot fence if not taller rose bushes planted along the fence just case they pop him over by ladder .
OKay that may not work but say no and mean it if they pop im over the fence id pop him right back over and say not to day .

Layla30 · 04/06/2023 22:07

This happened to me 15 years ago, we had the trampoline, the paddling pool and other garden toys. 1 neighbour constantly send her kids round to play and then sat in the sun with her feet up or went away and sat with other neighbours and friends.
I felt such a mug and the resentment built up until one day I just lost it and went mad! I sent the children home and told the mum how I was fed up looking after her children all the time and it stopped now!
It worked and she started inviting my kids over and things were a lot better - we are still neighbours now and it never caused a falling out or anything.
You need to stand up for yourself and say no. Apart from it being incredibly cheeky it’s an accident waiting to happen aswell with all those young children and water so for that reason alone please stop it now.

ASimpleLampoon · 04/06/2023 22:25

You have enough to do! Its very CF

Imdonewithsergio · 04/06/2023 22:57

Layla30 · 04/06/2023 22:07

This happened to me 15 years ago, we had the trampoline, the paddling pool and other garden toys. 1 neighbour constantly send her kids round to play and then sat in the sun with her feet up or went away and sat with other neighbours and friends.
I felt such a mug and the resentment built up until one day I just lost it and went mad! I sent the children home and told the mum how I was fed up looking after her children all the time and it stopped now!
It worked and she started inviting my kids over and things were a lot better - we are still neighbours now and it never caused a falling out or anything.
You need to stand up for yourself and say no. Apart from it being incredibly cheeky it’s an accident waiting to happen aswell with all those young children and water so for that reason alone please stop it now.

It sort of takes the good out of your day as you end up just wanting back in the house and to feel less burdened.I feel bad as he is obviously excited to come play but they set that expectation by putting him in his swim gear and not discussing it with us.

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Imdonewithsergio · 04/06/2023 23:00

2bazookas · 04/06/2023 15:32

LOL. We had a secluded back garden. Neighbour can't see in.

Neighbour can hear my gang of sons invisibly splashing around in their paddling pool (high fence). The kids all know each other from nursery. N knocks on the door and wonders if her only little princess can come to play while she goes to the smkt? Princess is all ready; in her swimming cossie.

The smkt is 5 mins walk away (and N has a car) but she doesn't return for three hours. She says, she could hear the children still playing so decided to put her feet up in her own garden, tinkly laugh. I say the kids are all still in the garden, come on through.

N very nearly bursts a blood vessel when she sees all the children are stark naked. Including princess. She is unbelievably horrified because Princess had certainly NOT seen a naked male before and if she had had ANY IDEA my sons were UNDRESSED she would never have been allowed to play.

It got worse. That evening N phones in a fury. At bathtime Princess told Mummy all about the penis, vagina and testicles. The boys next door told her. She hasn't got a penis because she's a girl and has a vagina. A vagina is where the seed goes in to grow babies and the baby gets out. Boys pee with a penis , she has seen them.

Princess's innocence has been lost forever. N cannot believe my sons know such things, let alone talk about it.

She didn't send Princess to play again.

This has made me chuckle!

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007DoubleOSeven · 04/06/2023 23:34

Imdonewithsergio · 04/06/2023 22:57

It sort of takes the good out of your day as you end up just wanting back in the house and to feel less burdened.I feel bad as he is obviously excited to come play but they set that expectation by putting him in his swim gear and not discussing it with us.

Then as you firmly return him, you explain to him that his parents have been very rude and its bad manners to invite yourself round.

Fraaahnces · 05/06/2023 00:51

Does she do this when your DH is there too or just you?

silverlentils · 05/06/2023 01:57

Imdonewithsergio · 04/06/2023 13:23

Sometimes I don’t know it’s happened til it’s happened as I’ll be indoors getting my own kids win suits etc on. Other times, I’ve been there and they will literally just say to their son “behave while you’re in there” or “have fun” and walk away. When I have said anything they have said that I’m being a bit selfish as he can see our kids playing and feels left out. Or that it’s essentially tantamount to bullying for him to be excluded.

Oh, well install a higher fence and tell them it's so their kid won't feel left out by seeing your kids playing 🙄
Their kid is going to grow up with a sense of entitlement and think he is being bullied everytime he isn't included in something. It's their job to find him playmates, not yours.
What happens if they put him over the fence while you are getting your kids ready, or while you are out? And he goes in the pool alone? Its incredibly irresponsible of them.

Maybe tell her that if she wants him to use the pool you and her will need to take turns supervising all the kids. She won't want to do that!

Emotionalsupportviper · 05/06/2023 06:56

ChilledBeez · 04/06/2023 20:50

To add insult to injury, the CF NDN used to pass a picnic through the fence for her daughter only and often used to call her over (to the fence) and give her an ice lolly without giving my two anything.

That would have happened once - and once only.

You aren't kidding! The first time would be the last.

We were lucky with our neighbours when ours were little - DS might come in shouting "Mam, I need 8 bags of crisps!", but I knew that somebody would be providing 8 packets of raisins, or 8 cans of pop, or whatever, if not then, then the next day.

When they got to "big" school there were a couple of parents who would feed their own child but no-one else's (generally the wealthier parents, too) and when their child came to our house I would chase them home at feeding time. (I would never sit and eat a meal in front of someone else - even a child. I'd either feed them or "evict" them.)

We all soon got to know which parents were the bumholes.

Emotionalsupportviper · 05/06/2023 06:58

hotinthesun · 04/06/2023 21:30

right 7 foot fence if not taller rose bushes planted along the fence just case they pop him over by ladder .
OKay that may not work but say no and mean it if they pop im over the fence id pop him right back over and say not to day .

<wondering if they would have the cheek to deliver him via a drone> 🤔

Emotionalsupportviper · 05/06/2023 07:00

Imdonewithsergio · 04/06/2023 20:51

We each have individual back gardens but it’s a new development with a large, shared space behind it too which isn’t accessible to the public. It has play equipment in it (shared). So all the children tend to play there but this wee boy is encouraged into other peoples private gardens by his parents. So he using their trampolines, our water table etc. he even uses things when families aren’t there as the parents lift him over the fence. I know another set of neighbours are really struggling with it as they have a religion with a set day of the week where they have a sort of rest day and strictly observe this as a family, don’t play with the other kids in the street etc. and they still just send their son in.

he even uses things when families aren’t there as the parents lift him over the fence.

That's just bliddy dangerous 😧

another set of neighbours are really struggling with it as they have a religion with a set day of the week where they have a sort of rest day and strictly observe this as a family, don’t play with the other kids in the street etc. and they still just send their son in.

And that's just bliddy rude 😡

Imdonewithsergio · 05/06/2023 08:52

Fraaahnces · 05/06/2023 00:51

Does she do this when your DH is there too or just you?

She does it when we are both there. I don’t think DH has ever had the pool up in my absence.

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Imdonewithsergio · 05/06/2023 08:54

Emotionalsupportviper · 05/06/2023 06:58

<wondering if they would have the cheek to deliver him via a drone> 🤔

The drone comment 😂😂😂😂

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Kiwano · 05/06/2023 09:02

Imdonewithsergio · 04/06/2023 20:51

We each have individual back gardens but it’s a new development with a large, shared space behind it too which isn’t accessible to the public. It has play equipment in it (shared). So all the children tend to play there but this wee boy is encouraged into other peoples private gardens by his parents. So he using their trampolines, our water table etc. he even uses things when families aren’t there as the parents lift him over the fence. I know another set of neighbours are really struggling with it as they have a religion with a set day of the week where they have a sort of rest day and strictly observe this as a family, don’t play with the other kids in the street etc. and they still just send their son in.

Does everyone in your neighbourhood just meekly allow this to happen? If I were part of the religious family I would have sent him firmly away the first time he turned up and told the parents this was never to happen again. Likewise if I saw him playing on his own on equipment in someone else's garden when the owners were away, I would consider calling the police about the abandoned child who is clearly in danger.

Imdonewithsergio · 05/06/2023 09:09

Kiwano · 05/06/2023 09:02

Does everyone in your neighbourhood just meekly allow this to happen? If I were part of the religious family I would have sent him firmly away the first time he turned up and told the parents this was never to happen again. Likewise if I saw him playing on his own on equipment in someone else's garden when the owners were away, I would consider calling the police about the abandoned child who is clearly in danger.

There is one woman further along who refuses to let him in, it’s her grandkids who he tries to play with. My religious neighbours are very non confrontational and their first language isn’t English which I think makes it a bit trickier for them. My friend also said they should be reported for allowing him to wander around unattended.

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Fraaahnces · 05/06/2023 11:00

Definitely report. Those parents ARE dangerous.

crosstalk · 05/06/2023 15:07

OP Keep it up! I think your neighbours have just got used to free child care despite how potentially dangerous it is for you and indeed their child. However overwhelming that child is I feel a tinge of sympathy for him since he's obviously being farmed out. I'd go ahead with the fencing just the same but please no plastic - you could have a lovely fence with some excellent roses and climbers which will give you pleasure while making it harder for them to abandon their DC.

MustWeDoThis · 05/06/2023 18:07

Imdonewithsergio · 04/06/2023 08:48

do your neighbours automatically assume their children can use your kids paddling pool? We have one neighbour who will literally send her child out with her swimming costume on if our pool is out. Child is 4. We have a large family (5 kids under 8). So I don’t feel comfortable having another little boy to add to the mix. I’ve tried speaking to them but I’m made out to be a selfish killjoy. The child in question is absolutely wild and my own kids give up and end up out the pool. She also sends her child into other neighbours gardens to use their pool/slide/water table/trampoline etc. it’s getting to the point I dread sunny days as this child just assumes they can come in here and use everything (the pool in particular bothers me as it’s the safety aspect. My youngest is 3 months old so I’m fairly busy as it is, trying to deal with a baby and watch my own young kids in water. Even with DH here it we are keeping a constant eye on them).

Am I just being miserable though?

Honestly? This is a Safeguarding issue and I would report them to MASH/Welfare Services for child abandonment.

celticprincess · 05/06/2023 18:09

Make a call to social services? Safeguarding. This child is being left with random people and not properly supervised - especially if you aren’t in and they dump him over to play.

EatAllDay · 05/06/2023 18:09

Don’t answer the door. Or if you’re caught by her say “oh sorry I can’t have your dc today, we’re full up… haha… byeee”

Funmum2020 · 05/06/2023 18:11

Tell them no . If something happens its you'd feel awful! My son passed by drowning and now I dont even let my older kids go swimming without me . I don't know how any parent could let their child to be honest . Its also very rude for then to assume its OK it not the kids fault it tha parents

fitzwilliamdarcy · 05/06/2023 18:17

Emotionalsupportviper · 05/06/2023 06:58

<wondering if they would have the cheek to deliver him via a drone> 🤔

I have visions of them firing him out of a cannon.