Or is Mansplaining getting worse?

[PaperwhiteTheGhost]

Filling up my car screen wash on my driveway. No hose or outside tap at the front so I'm using a big watering can.

Random man: you know that's a watering can right? It's for watering plants. You can put a nozzle on the end to make it sprinkle the water out.

Me: Umm. Yes. I do know.

RM: It's not actually for filling up the car.

Me: Yes. I know. I also use it in the garden.

RM: You can use a hose to fill up the car.

Me: I know, but I don't have an outside tap, so I used this to move water from inside my house to outside. Because its a water moving receptacle.

RM: It wasn't made for filling up the car though.

Me: ........

RM: Hurumpf.

And off he wanders.

I mean.... what!?

Mansplainer just yesterday explained to me that I needed to put my car in reverse in order to make it go backwards.

I’ve been driving for over 20 years.

Why would you use a hose? No control over water flow, waste water before and after filling and get it all over the engine. As a seasoned mansplainer I would have corrected such simple oversights.

So glad you posted this excellent advice from a man, I used to just let my car roll backwards and thought the R meant “radio”, just as well we have men to put us straight 😂😂😂

Maybe but it felt like mansplaining because of the confidence with which he 'corrected' me.
I think plain old stupidity would be thinking someone saying Edvard Munch means Edward Monkton but keeping quiet about it unless asked.

Think you misunderstood his message
His actual tweet -
‘A law was passed in Uganda yesterday making homosexuality a crime punishable by death. The justification for such draconian measures is that same sex attraction is not an innate and immutable characteristic-the reason Stock gives for believing trans women cannot be women 9/10’

He’s not arguing that lesbians are going against nature but pointing out the arguments used against trans rights are the same used historically against gay rights.

am I mansplaining?😂 Sorry I couldn’t Billy Bragg be wrongly called a homophobe

There is no link between Uganda making homosexuality illegal, and gender critical women in the UK. It's an example of forced teaming by Billy Bragg. Its a fucking awful situation to use as a weapon in this way.

😅😂 omfg!

There are some men who just can’t cope with having a female boss.

Get used to it, it’s the future.

Years ago I decided to paint our metal window frames as the old paint was falling off. My plan was scrape the paint off, then a coat of primer, then white gloss. My male neighbour came over and said "you can't paint over that flaky paint"! As if!!

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He would of got whatever water I had left in the watering can chucked all over him 🤣🤣

OP: Is mansplaining getting worse?

Random Man: Turns up to either frustrate or bore all the women on the thread into submission by mansplaining mansplaining to us and telling us it doesn't exist because sometimes women are patronising too. Bonus points for 'suck it up' about having to listen to his zero lived experience of being a woman and being mansplained to.

Exactly this. I am sure some men have been patronised by random women.

But that's not what this thread is about. This is about women having to tolerate men patronising THEM, and mansplaining to them.

If a random man wants to talk about the patronising women he has encountered, then he needs to start his own thread about it, and not hijack THIS thread, about annoying, patronising MEN mansplaining to women!!!

Men know fuck-all about womens experiences with condescending and patronising mansplaining men.

The mensplainers need to get their own thread. Hijacking is very poor form.

I met a (in his opinion) VI (not quite) RM many years ago. That was fun.

I wanted to bring a plant back from Italy to UK. I had checked UK Gov website and asked staff at Gatwick so knew I was ok to bring it over. This the legality of taking it on the plane was not in question. But I did ask the staff at check-in if I could take it on as my 'computer' and thus keep my bag with me as well, or would I have to check-in my carry-on as I didn't want the plant going in the hold. They sent me to ask VIRM.

He ignored my question, and told me I wasn't allowed to take the plant with me. Normally I wouldn't argue with authority, but I knew I was right, so stood my ground. He did not like that, and told me he had a Book (capital definitely needed, despite it not being the Bible) which would prove his point. Undeterred I still refused to budge, so he picked up his Book and read the section in question. I pointed out it was irrelevant. He started waving his Book at me, getting crosser and crosser, until his boss turned up. I couldn't follow VIRM's argument entirely, but it was clearly along the lines of 'This stupid blonde thinks she can take this plant to the UK and isn't listening to me. Maybe she'll listen to you!" Boss turns to me and says, in English, "But she is right. She can take it!" and then made sure the check-in staff let me carry it on the plane. Poor VIRM was not impressed!!!

Ah but your picture actually tells another story. The international protocol with these pictures is that where you stand depends on how long you have been in post. The fact their [sic] is a more similar number of women on the back row and down the sides is actually a sign of progress to the trained eye!
You are clearly having a laugh, but in case anyone reading for some reason believes you are sagely informing us about matters we don't understand...
a) there are 27 men and 10 women in the picture. Men are clearly still overwhelmingly dominant, which was my point
b) the 3 women I can make out at the back are Magdalena Andersson, Sanna Marin and Vjosa Osmani-Sadriu, in power since 2021, 2019 and 2021 respectively. At the front, centre stage are e.g. Emmanuel Macron (2017), Nicos Anastasiades (2013) or Edi Rama (2013), so your knowledge of international protocol and/or how long leaders have been in post is questionable. Are you claiming your eye is "trained" and if so, how, and what in?

I'm coining the phrase 'compensatory mansplaining' for when a man if proved wrong and has to save his ego by making up over-researching stuff about the correct answer.

XP, who had never cooked anything more than a pot noodle in his life, came in to the kitchen and told me off for putting the foil on the grill the wrong way (I put it shiny side down out of habit) because his mummy always put it shiny side up as that was scientifically the best method of heat distribution blah blah, trying to sound like he had a phd in grilled fishfingers. I said it didn't matter, so of course he goes to google to prove me wrong (did this all the time and I was NEVER wrong because I only ever stated things I was 100% about around him) and spent the evening explaining the history of tin foil to me. Brushed over him being wrong and bombarded me with info so that his poor little ego could still call it a win for him.

I've had it from others too, especially in work. Your idea or research is dismissed then it circles back to them using you idea but with a slight change or an 'aha' moment by a bloke who suddenly endorses your idea and all everyone remembers is that he declared the solution.

Had male colleagues, in the very same meetings where this happens, not recognise it until pointed out.

It's very much a problem where we DON'T need men debating whether it is an actual thing ffs.

@StayGoldenPonyGirl

I've had it from others too, especially in work. Your idea or research is dismissed then it circles back to them using you idea but with a slight change or an 'aha' moment by a bloke who suddenly endorses your idea and all everyone remembers is that he declared the solution.

I wonder if, to some extent at least, that behaviour is related to power relations and perceived status. I know that male gender is a big driver of this, but I have had enough other women doing this to me to think that it's not exclusive to men. As if they think they outranked me so my idea somehow 'belonged' to them.

Well, yes, I can understand when managers etc take and combine your work and ideas - good managers I've had thank and acknowledge the work. Bad managers don't give credit and they can be men or women.

But I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about a definite gender split - I have experienced this and shared my experiences in the context of the thread, not misunderstanding what power and management structure are.

I am stressing that it is a gender thing - I am not confused on unclear on what I have experienced. Maybe my description of the examples is unconvincing but I would not have shared if I wasn't sure of my experience. Being told I might just be unsure of how the word of work should work is a bit condescending (that means talking down to someone 😆).

Sorry @CharlottenBurger you didn't deserve a snippy reply...I'm still aghast at the fellas earlier debating whether it was really a thing and have my binoculars out for sealions.

I do agree with you, there there is definitely some crossover between mansplainers and people who've had power go to their heads and cunts. I do think they can all have their own category though and we have enough experience to call them what they are without mistaking them for something else.

To be clear, I meant exactly the type of idea-stealing that you said that men do. Women do it too, maybe not so many. Sometimes senior, sometimes not.

Mansplaining is infuriating.

I’m guessing watering can man might just have fixed ideas of what objects are/aren’t for, and can’t flexibly shift between them. I highly doubt he’s mansplaining (unlike my husband).

I think if he would 'correct' a man in the same way he 'corrected' you then it's stupidity rather than mansplaining.

Oh, actually re-reading BetterFuture1985's "Ah but" post, I see I misinterpreted the way in which he was having a laugh :D

He wasn't correcting me, he was actually saying exactly the same thing that I said before ("we live in a global society that has historically been dominated by men far more than it is today, but where men do still dominate"), but rephrased, as if he was saying something different:
Me: "There has been progress but men still dominate"
Him: "Ah but no: men still dominate but there has been progress"

You can tell I haven't put in the 10,000 hours of practice required to reach pro level splaining yet!

Haha, they take Honours in gaslighting alongside the Mansplanation BA!

Takes some distance to recognise the idiocracy!