Or is Mansplaining getting worse?

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Filling up my car screen wash on my driveway. No hose or outside tap at the front so I'm using a big watering can.

Random man: you know that's a watering can right? It's for watering plants. You can put a nozzle on the end to make it sprinkle the water out.

Me: Umm. Yes. I do know.

RM: It's not actually for filling up the car.

Me: Yes. I know. I also use it in the garden.

RM: You can use a hose to fill up the car.

Me: I know, but I don't have an outside tap, so I used this to move water from inside my house to outside. Because its a water moving receptacle.

RM: It wasn't made for filling up the car though.

Me: ........

RM: Hurumpf.

And off he wanders.

I mean.... what!?

...........................................................................................Sorry.

So women say something like oh I dunno
Go away and populate your own area of the board, the one specially made for you, and you not only dont listen, you actively refuse.

Wow
Well done.

You don't get to dictate where people can post, only challenge what they say.

I am advocating nothing. You may do as you wish. I don't know why you think your only options for spending your time are (a) sit on this thread & tell women they're wrong, or b) go & speak to other blokes & then come & tell women they're wrong.

If that's your mindset, then mumsnet is probably not the place for you. But it's a free country & you have at least proved my theory correct:

'I think sometimes a bloke will talk nonsense to a random woman just because it means he's talking to a woman, or being useful. It's why they talk bilge: there is nothing helpful to be said, but they want to say something.'

'One was the manager' If she is the manager, then it is her JOB to know more than other people and tell them what to do!

As for the one who was 'confident in their own abilities', well perhaps there was a reason for that, and they did know more than other people, hence them telling other people what's what.

Oh and by the way, what does their age have to do with anything?

Nevertheless, my lived experience is that I've been talked down to by both genders in fairly equal numbers

Yes, I'm sure you have @BetterFuture1985 BUT YOU ARE A MAN ffs. You will never be able to have the same 'lived experience' as women. You won't get to experience first hand what it is like to be mansplained to. So your own personal experience is totally irrelevant.

But, but, but... a man's "lived experience" is clearly the only experience that matters!

Slightly off piste but in a plumbers merchants to buy a tanking kit for the shower. Husband and male assistant trying to work out how much we would need. Several minutes spent before I tuned into what they were saying and pointed out to them that square meters and meters squared are not the same thing.
Both looked at me pityingly and said, "yes it it". Even when I pointed out that one is an area and one is a calculation they weren't having it. It took about five minutes before husband realised I was right and apologised 🙄

I was pulled up at some lights, this guy signals to me to put my window down. When I do, he tells me I’ve a brake light out. I thank him for letting me know. He then continues to detail, at length, that I will need to get it sorted and if I do not, that I will get pulled over if the police notice. I guarantee he wouldn’t have “explained” this to another man

I remember a bloke on twitter saying that he didn't believe women's stories about their drinks being spiked, because he went to loads of pubs & clubs & HIS drinks never got spiked.🙄

I don't think any of us are all that interested in your opinion. Especially if all you are going to do is tell women why you think they are wrong.

Unless, of course, you want to demonstrate another admirable example of what we were discussing in the first place?

You removed all the context. You're essentially arguing for an echo chamber and then getting annoyed when someone points out the danger of that.

You're also confusing mansplaining with yourgetting upset that people have the nerve to disagree with you. How about you engage in reasoned debate instead?

Excuse me but about 70% of this forum is women debating men's lived experiences. I am allowed an opinion on my lived experience just the same as you are.

I'm not disagreeing with anyone here saying men are condescending to them. Not one. All I'm saying is that I get a lot of condescension from women and you can go and read this forum and you will see it over and over and over again.

I was waiting in the doctors heavily pregnant for a routine scan. Old man sat next to me randomly asked if I would be breastfeeding. I was so surprised I stupidly answered yes. To which he replied “good girl” 😡

Have you considered that that's saying more about you than about women in general?

Now, off you pop, dear.

Yes, you are allowed an opinion, everybody is. However the opinion of a man on a thread about women being on the receiving end of mansplaining is about as relevant as a white person saying they have never experienced discrimination because of their skin colour.

A man shouted at me and my friend the other day "ITS NOT RAINING NOW FOR GODS SAKE"

We were sharing an umbrella walking through a city centre on coronation day and it was mizzling. We were going to a brunch and trying to protect our hair! FFS!

I think I said "how informative".

Well, until 2014 we called it condescension and you're all doing a pretty good job of that now!

Apparently only women's experience matters when the subject is how men and women communicate with each other. I really have nothing else to contribute that you can't demonstrate 10 times more powerfully by example.

I love this 😂sounds like something I’d do!!

Okay, shall I start a thread on a dangerous fallacy like "golden uterus syndrome" and then shout you down when you complain?

My DS is going through a phase of being a back-seat boysplainer (back seat driver, boysplaining driving to me, to womansplain).

I'm just waiting for his critical thinking skills to catch up a bit before I set him straight.

I love my partner dearly. We’re very equal in all things…but sometimes…just sometimes, he mansplains and has to be reminded not to be an utter dick:
’is that how you boil pasta? I wouldn’t do it like that…’
I’ve lived alone, brought up three children, I’m a good cook. Response:
‘fuck off or do it yourself’

‘if you lift the handle on the door, it doesn’t stick’
I’ve lived in my house for 16 years, he moved in 18 months ago, I had the door fitted in 2009 and am well aware of how to open and close it. Response:
‘seriously you need to fuck off right now’

‘why don’t you just tell xxx (dd) not to do that? It’s quite simple.’
I've been a parent for 20 years, 9 of them on my own…he doesn’t have children. Response:
‘Well fuck me, I’ve never tried that one! Thanks!’

honestly!!!! 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

Wow you lead an exciting life; and the conversations you have with people are so interesting; post another I can’t wait it might actually stop me falling asleep 😴😴😴

With all due respect, you are a man, therefore you cannot know how we feel because you are not a woman. So when we talk about our experiences, just listen to them, and stop telling us that we are wrong in how we feel.

With all due respect to you mansplaining requires a communication with a man and a woman. We can hopefully at least agree on that point?

If it involves a communication between a man and a woman, then I've got as much skin in this game as you.

And I'm not telling you what to feel. I'm pointing out that women can be just as condescending but try and use this new fangled term to pretend it's gendered.

Do you know what it's like having a stranger coming up to you in the supermarket to say you're buying the wrong nappies? Or a wife telling you just how deep a child's bath should be or getting upset with you because you take a different route on a car journey than the one she would have taken? Have you read the thread after thread after thread on the Mumsnet Divorce forum where people automatically assume men can't handle 50/50 childcare? Are you honestly telling me that every single one of your know-it-all colleagues at work have been men?

People of both sexes are condescending and you don't have the right to shut half the population out of the debate on the basis of some spurious unproven claim that it is more harmful to you than it is to me. You are in exactly the same boat as I am, with only half a perspective.