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Holly willoboughly

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midnightblue12 · 27/05/2023 21:03

Ok I know I've spelt her surname wrong... but here we are. We all know who I'm talking about!

I just don't understand why social media has turned on her, almost blaiming her for allowing Phillip S antics to go on?

Why is she responsible for his actions????

And for those saying "she must've known"... maybe she didn't! Maybe she kept out of it or maybe she didn't know the full one and puts.
Why so she being Blaine's. Am I missing something??!

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JaneyGee · 30/05/2023 16:22

Can’t stand her. I always found her horribly fake, even before this blew up. I watched Eamon Holmes on GB News last night, and he totally convinced me that both she and Scofield are wrong uns.

Canthave2manycats · 30/05/2023 16:55

TeaYarn · 30/05/2023 15:48

I’m not suggesting the relationship is anything other than abuse. But we don’t need to infantilise the victim. His name is being thrown around these forums. He’s being spoken about like he’s some form of entertainment for a bunch of bored mothers with a grudge against PS. He’s a human who deserves respect. This might be your entrainment but it’s his life.

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I rather think you will find that you have expressed your views on the matter much more than I did. I don't think it's "entrainment" [sic] - it's all very seedy and very wrong.

I'm not a "bored mother" - my kids are adults. I have always been pretty much indifferent towards PS, but I am disgusted by the information now in the public domain. Unfortunately this young man is 'collateral damage'. He certainly didn't get much "respect" or consideration from those who owed him a duty of care. I hope he has decent people in his life now.

porridgeisbae · 30/05/2023 18:26

@TeaYarn I think those people here who are feeling for the young man are those that respect him. We think he deserved better than how PS treated him.

TeaYarn · 30/05/2023 19:11

I rather think you will find that you have expressed your views on the matter much more than I did.

Derailing a thread discussing the part HW played in the cover up of a young man’s abuse to have a pop at a user on an anonymous forum isn’t a good look.

Let’s think of the victim, keep this thread on topic and be respectful to others who have suffered this kind of abuse.

I hope the young man is getting the support he needs right now. That’s the most important thing.

Canthave2manycats · 30/05/2023 19:32

TeaYarn · 30/05/2023 19:11

I rather think you will find that you have expressed your views on the matter much more than I did.

Derailing a thread discussing the part HW played in the cover up of a young man’s abuse to have a pop at a user on an anonymous forum isn’t a good look.

Let’s think of the victim, keep this thread on topic and be respectful to others who have suffered this kind of abuse.

I hope the young man is getting the support he needs right now. That’s the most important thing.

Really???

Yes, let's do that. Not - "I’m not suggesting the relationship is anything other than abuse. But we don’t need to infantilise the victim. His name is being thrown around these forums. He’s being spoken about like he’s some form of entertainment for a bunch of bored mothers with a grudge against PS. He’s a human who deserves respect. This might be your entrainment but it’s his life."

Calzonepizza · 30/05/2023 19:49

HW cannot pretend she didn’t know..
The world of showbiz runs on gossip and it would most definitely have been talked about. His sexuality was also an open secret.
By saying she didn’t know she has killed brand Holly.

TeaYarn · 30/05/2023 19:50

Canthave2manycats · 30/05/2023 19:32

Really???

Yes, let's do that. Not - "I’m not suggesting the relationship is anything other than abuse. But we don’t need to infantilise the victim. His name is being thrown around these forums. He’s being spoken about like he’s some form of entertainment for a bunch of bored mothers with a grudge against PS. He’s a human who deserves respect. This might be your entrainment but it’s his life."

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Yes. Really.

I know you seem to be upset by me but you need to put your own personal grips about me aside and show some respect to the victim.

As I told you on the previous message let’s not infantilise this man and show him some respect by keeping this thread on topic. There are bigger issues going on than your personal grips I’m afraid.

Canthave2manycats · 30/05/2023 20:02

I couldn't care less about you. I have no idea why you've picked on my posts - but guess what, you aren't in charge of this thread.

You've a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic!

TeaYarn · 30/05/2023 20:09

Canthave2manycats · 30/05/2023 20:02

I couldn't care less about you. I have no idea why you've picked on my posts - but guess what, you aren't in charge of this thread.

You've a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic!

You really have no respect for victims of sexual abuse.

I really can’t understand why you would want to insult me on a thread about such a sensitive subject.

To get you back into the topic of the thread -

Do you have any comments on what HW should do now there is evidence she knew the young man was in a relationship with PS?

Canthave2manycats · 30/05/2023 20:18

Oh I have plenty of respect for victims of sexual abuse. I just have no respect for your mad ramblings!

TeaYarn · 30/05/2023 20:20

Canthave2manycats · 30/05/2023 20:18

Oh I have plenty of respect for victims of sexual abuse. I just have no respect for your mad ramblings!

And your comments on HW are?

JenniferBooth · 30/05/2023 20:20

I was talking to someone (a woman) when i was out shopping earlier Her reply?? Well the young bloke hasnt put in a complaint.

a oh well thats alright then.
b. how does she know

And ive seen plenty of who cares type comments.

IMO some people just cant see past celebrity.

Canthave2manycats · 30/05/2023 20:21

She should resign, but she won't.

If she didn't know before, the young guy's love declaration was pretty much of a giveaway - along with his ejection from the function and his move to another show.

Is that ok with you?

Royalbloo · 30/05/2023 20:23

Doesn't it rest with the "victim" as to whether they feel they have been a "victim"? Like being bullied?

No one can tell you you weren't bullied if you felt bullied?

Isn't it up to him?

And me heart goes out to him x

Royalbloo · 30/05/2023 20:23

*my

Royalbloo · 30/05/2023 20:24

I genuinely hope he is ok

TeaYarn · 30/05/2023 20:26

JenniferBooth · 30/05/2023 20:20

I was talking to someone (a woman) when i was out shopping earlier Her reply?? Well the young bloke hasnt put in a complaint.

a oh well thats alright then.
b. how does she know

And ive seen plenty of who cares type comments.

IMO some people just cant see past celebrity.

It’s disgusting to know there are people out there who think like that. Not every victim is able to speak publicly, doesn’t mean they didn’t put in a complaint. Nor should they feel pressured to complain.

mids2019 · 30/05/2023 23:32

Holly I assume will have a PR team working overtime trying to think of the best response for her. I think currently a heart felt expose in a sympathetic chat magazine may be coming. Holly will be willing to reveal the 'real her' in return for an opportunity to set the record straight. I really am not a fan but if I was her I would go for the Daily Mail are out to get me angle and present herself as somehow among to Meghan Markle. Possibly there may be an approach of she fighting from the inside?

I think she may try an appearance on something like a quiz show and have her team trawl social media to gauge the reaction. If it's not too bad she will slowly get back more substantial roles.

mids2019 · 30/05/2023 23:33

akin

userhank · 30/05/2023 23:37

It's all the drama Mick....I just love it 😊

milkyaqua · 31/05/2023 00:19

It will be interesting when the alleged gag order on MM lifts in the next couple of months.

Flunkey · 31/05/2023 00:28

I thiught they cant use gaggig orders to silence victims. I don't know if MM knows how much power he hold right now to take down ITV management and the rest. That lad could be a multi millionaire by the end of the week.

Porridgealert · 31/05/2023 01:50

milkyaqua · 31/05/2023 00:19

It will be interesting when the alleged gag order on MM lifts in the next couple of months.

Was that alleged gag order taken out before the alleged and non-existent injunctions and super-injunctions? 🙄
Maybe the actual reason he's not spoken is because he doesn't care for people getting involved in his personal and intimate business.

milkyaqua · 31/05/2023 02:03

Oh, yes, and the timing of PS "coming out" was also coincidental. It had nothing to do with MM going to the press...

GoOnHoliday · 31/05/2023 09:41

NDAs don't apply under certain conditions.

A all very smoke and mirrors now the curtain has been removed, the wizard of OZ just a stage withtwo people pretending to be part of a team. The reality is that the team isn't allowed to look at them off stage, they don't know their names, there are no big post NTA team parties, just a 65 year old man and 42 year old woman sitting together getting drunk all night believing that they are loved by all and superior to everyone else.