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Holly willoboughly

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midnightblue12 · 27/05/2023 21:03

Ok I know I've spelt her surname wrong... but here we are. We all know who I'm talking about!

I just don't understand why social media has turned on her, almost blaiming her for allowing Phillip S antics to go on?

Why is she responsible for his actions????

And for those saying "she must've known"... maybe she didn't! Maybe she kept out of it or maybe she didn't know the full one and puts.
Why so she being Blaine's. Am I missing something??!

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Banana1979 · 31/05/2023 09:43

RudsyFarmer · 27/05/2023 21:13

I still do t really understand why we’re all hating him. Is it because he had an affair? Because he’s gay? Because the person he had the affair with was young and the rumour is he manipulated the person into a sexual relationship?

I can’t work it out. I don’t like him because he’s everywhere and seems a sanctimonious prick but I can’t work out why this is constant front page news. People have affairs all the time and keep their jobs. The whole of parliament lie all the time and keep their jobs. What am I missing?

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Meltinthemiddle · 31/05/2023 10:44

HW will be back on the sofa, she probably won't address it and will try and ride it out sticking to the format she knew nothing about it therefore doesn't have to acknowledge it any more then a he has.

Greengreengrass231 · 31/05/2023 11:34

I know it’s completely off topic but does anyone remember the time Philip s was strapped to the wing of a plane doing loop the loop and claimed it was in honour of Prince Philip🤣 such an eejit

Bluebells1970 · 31/05/2023 11:55

She'll be back on Monday as if nothing has happened. The issue going forwards is that she's not a very good broadcaster/journalist, can only read what's put in front of her and they're going to have to seriously dumb down the content... especially if Alison is her new co-presenter. That's going to affect who will appear, and couple that with lost advertising revenue - and that's when they will address the elephant in the room.

HW hasn't got the presence to be a main presenter - she's too lightweight. She's only presented Surprise Surprise solo as far as I can recall, and that didn't last long.

lollipoprainbow · 31/05/2023 12:07

Greengreengrass231 · 31/05/2023 11:34

I know it’s completely off topic but does anyone remember the time Philip s was strapped to the wing of a plane doing loop the loop and claimed it was in honour of Prince Philip🤣 such an eejit

As I recall Prince Philip was quite disparaging towards him !

Inkanta · 31/05/2023 12:43

She'll be back on Monday as if nothing has happened
Fair enough, but if she does she needs to be more plain speaking and authentic - that would get her more respect. If she continues to smile sweetly like nothing happened she'll make it worse for herself. Now's not the time to be nicey nicey. Time to look people in the eye whatever the truth.

lollipoprainbow · 31/05/2023 12:46

She'll be protected to the hilt like the Pampered princess she is.

milkyaqua · 31/05/2023 12:46

She can hardly say she knew nothing about it when a distraught MM, after PS had him kicked out of the VIP room, is in photos pleading with her outside the National Television Awards back in 2020, where he was heard to tell her he "loved Phil"... and lo, one week later PS just happened to "come out" as gay.

And she can hardly say she didn't notice the extremely unusual privileges this runner had prior to this.

Just as ITV can't say they didn't know about the affair, and the inappropriate nature of it, when it has now come out that they paid MM off...

Mrsjayy · 31/05/2023 12:48

Alison and Dermott are doing fine imo I mean there is still "nothing to see here" but the presentation is good I think Holly will Struggle without the giggling and pretending there Is in jokes.

Wheresthebeach · 31/05/2023 12:54

I think the 'giggling girl' persona is going to be a problem for her. Denying she knew anything now looks even more ridiculous. Be interesting to see if she just brazens it out, or addresses it. Senior management can't just keep hoping this will go away. Its looks like a culture of bullying, coercive control, and protecting PS at all costs existed. Why these companies protect stars to this extent is beyond me - they really ought to have the 'nobody is bigger than the show' approach and rigorous safeguarding. I hope senior management are forced to resign over their enablement of this.

lollipoprainbow · 31/05/2023 12:55

milkyaqua · 31/05/2023 12:46

She can hardly say she knew nothing about it when a distraught MM, after PS had him kicked out of the VIP room, is in photos pleading with her outside the National Television Awards back in 2020, where he was heard to tell her he "loved Phil"... and lo, one week later PS just happened to "come out" as gay.

And she can hardly say she didn't notice the extremely unusual privileges this runner had prior to this.

Just as ITV can't say they didn't know about the affair, and the inappropriate nature of it, when it has now come out that they paid MM off...

Plus her Weasley husband there as well I bet be he knew as well.

Mrsjayy · 31/05/2023 12:57

There is an inquiry next week isn't there ?

Inkanta · 31/05/2023 13:23

Plus her Weasley husband there as well I bet be he knew as well
Yes he seems a glass of water.

Porridgealert · 31/05/2023 14:36

they're going to have to seriously dumb down the content...

Dumb down? Lordy B. Can it get any dumber than it is? The thought of her and Alison rolling round on the settee laughing and then suddenly speaking seriously, underlining just how faux the laughing was, is seriously cringe.
How far will Judy's eyebrows be raised over this? How far TM has fallen.

porridgeisbae · 31/05/2023 15:15

Oh, yes, and the timing of PS "coming out" was also coincidental

The Kevin Spacey defence.

JenniferBooth · 31/05/2023 18:04

Oh the comments underneath that clip

JenniferBooth · 31/05/2023 18:10

BREAKING ITV have appointed lawyers.

RedToothBrush · 31/05/2023 18:46

JenniferBooth · 31/05/2023 18:10

BREAKING ITV have appointed lawyers.

Hahaha

RedToothBrush · 31/05/2023 18:49

ITV tonight launch an external inquiry into Phillip Schofield's relationship with a much younger colleague in an attempt to save embattled This Morning.

In a humiliating climbdown, the channel told its employees, following a crisis staff meeting, that it has begun a review, which will be led by a barrister as the pressure mounts for the bosses to tell what they knew and when about the affair.

JenniferBooth · 31/05/2023 18:59

@RedToothBrush they said that the runner asked to be promoted over to Loose Women.

I cant see how a transfer from TM to LW is a promotion. Surely This Morning is the bigger of the two shows. a. its on first and b. its more than double the length of Loose Women.

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 31/05/2023 19:01

She will continue with the giggling.
Hence bringing Alison in as she's always joking and in a jovial mood.
Plus the 'can't believe my luck to be presenting with Holly' means Holly can hide behind that and let Alison take the fall if ratings drop coz don't you know, she's a serious broadcaster.

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RedToothBrush · 31/05/2023 19:08

Oh the story gets better

In what was the broadcaster's first concession of potential wrongdoing over the scandal, its chief people officer David Osborn wrote to staff to inform them of the move which comes after sources close to the former production assistant say that he was never asked about the relationship by ITV.

It came after This Morning employees were called to a meeting at the show's White City offices by its editor Martin Frizell and head of daytime Emma Gormley. Both returned from their holidays to attend it.

It is understood that the pair took questions from their staff and attempted to put their minds at rest about the show.

However, shortly after the email was sent round by Mr Osborn who also told how the channel had written to the Department of Culture Media and Sport, television regulator Ofcom and the DCMS Select Committee - which it will be appearing before next Tuesday - to give them their version of events.

The letter also said that Schofield's former partner was 20 when he was employed as a staff member on This Morning but had done work experience there before that.

It also let rip at Schofield, 61, saying that he had let them down by lying to hide the relationship, which he described as 'unwise but not illegal.'

The letter said: 'Whilst we are extremely mindful of our duty of care and confidentiality to all concerned, I know you have your own questions on this matter. So to clarify, the individual was concerned when he was first employed at ITV, having completed work experience the previous year. He subsequently secured a promotion through an open recruitment process before leaving in 2021.

Schofield was dating the work experience kid.

Askil · 31/05/2023 19:14

MVGsDarts · 27/05/2023 21:13

She's not being blamed for him but rather how she chose to toe the ITV line and turned a blind eye.

Can you say exactly what you think she should have done?
he wasn't breaking the law. The matter is between him his wife and his bosses (who turned a blind eye). Her role was to do a job which she performs well.

JenniferBooth · 31/05/2023 19:16

@Askil i think there would be a lot less posts like yours if it had been a woman in their 50s and a teenage lad.