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Dog walker killed by her own XL Bully Breed dog.

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BethDuttonsTwin · 17/05/2023 18:30

NOT a pack of 8 dogs as was reported repeatedly with concurrent complete slating of all professional dog walkers.

Absolutely awful. So many of us who have worked with dogs knew this would be the outcome and that packs of 8 dogs do not behave in this way.

After investigations are complete we are now told that the only dog destroyed was the walkers own XL Bully Breed dog. Over and over again it is these dogs and still today I see a man strutting around my locale with two of these type dogs, both unneutered and off lead 🤷🏼‍♀️

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drpet49 · 17/05/2023 20:31

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Lilacsbloominspring · 17/05/2023 20:31

Oysterbabe · 17/05/2023 19:49

I think the point of the thread is when the attack happened the It's Not The Breed dog obsessives were posting Look! Any dog can attack, Daschunds, a Leonburger. Then it turns out it was an XL Bully after all, as everyone knew it would be. Still they go on, there's no proof, other dogs attacked too! Of course it was the fucking bully who killed her and that will be the eventual conclusion.

Yes, agreed.

I don’t know why there’s so much insistence that it isn’t the breed, I honestly don’t understand it at all.

GabrielleLegs · 17/05/2023 20:32

It’s beyond me why anyone entrusts their dogs to group walkers.

Someone let this dog walker take out their two daschunds with an XL bully and another 11 stone dog. What possessed them and what possessed the dog walker to think this was in any way a good idea?

How can someone walking 8 dogs control them all, ensure they are all safe and enjoying a decent walk? I can't imagine they can even do a simple task like pick up poo?

TheHandmaiden · 17/05/2023 20:33

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Windbeneathmybingowings · 17/05/2023 20:35

Well I suppose 8 dachshunds may weigh the same as one xl and still not have the same capacity to bite through a neck. So that is breed specific.

berksandbeyond · 17/05/2023 20:35

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Yep, you’re correct but everyone will just say you’re victim blaming

BonnieBobbin · 17/05/2023 20:38

There's something distasteful about crowing that you guessed properly which dog killed someone especially when you are misrepresenting a Daily Mail article that clearly states the other dogs also mauled the dog walker, that the police 'believe' it was a certain breed of dog (believe isn't an absolute) and that the inquest has not concluded. Have some respect for the victim and the truth. This thread is vile.

PurplePineapple1 · 17/05/2023 20:38

The people that defend these types of dogs just baffle me. What can you possibly get from it?

GabrielleLegs · 17/05/2023 20:39

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It's terribly sad and true. It could also be somebody else dead because of her own greed and stupidity.

HaggisBurger · 17/05/2023 20:39

Lilacsbloominspring · 17/05/2023 20:31

Yes, agreed.

I don’t know why there’s so much insistence that it isn’t the breed, I honestly don’t understand it at all.

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It’s bonkers. It very much is to do with the breed. Kicking a cane corso / bully cross was like kicking a tree stump. Utterly solid. If I kicked one of my dogs it would stop immediately and yelp in pain. A cane corso has a bite strength that exceeds a pitbull or a lion.

AlwaysGinPlease · 17/05/2023 20:40

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My posts were slated but Jesus wept, THIS is just sickening. How dare you.

MegaManic · 17/05/2023 20:40

There is absolutely no need for anyone to have a dog as a pet that can kill someone. They should be banned, it is just ridiculous - and don't give me BS about training, sick to death of hearing it.

davegrohll · 17/05/2023 20:40

Can someone please explain to me exactly what an xl bully dog is ? There is also xxl bully isn't there ?? Is it it's own breed or ?

Retrain12345 · 17/05/2023 20:40

@Oysterbabe hit the nail on the head there.

Bully lovers were overjoyed it wasn’t one of theirs, couldn’t wait to blame the leonberger because of its size or even dachsie. Used it to fuel the argument that bullies are lovely family pets and cockerpoos are equally as dangerous. As long as it wasn’t adding to the scarily long list of people killed by a bully who cares.

Yet now it turns out that a bully was the dog fatally attacking her it’s still the fault of the other dogs…

RoseLee04 · 17/05/2023 20:41

StaringAtTheWater · 17/05/2023 18:53

It sounds like there were four dogs at least attacking her, so more may be put down. Further down the article it says:

*A 60-year-old woman on horseback saw something of it as she approached the brow of a hill at 2.30pm on the North Downs Way – a bridle path at Gravelly Hill, near Caterham, Surrey – flanked by a grass bank and bushes and trees.

Surrounded by dogs pulling frenziedly at her limbs, a blonde woman wearing a beige jacket was on the ground, sitting but never quite managing to stand up. She never did.

'When we saw her she was about 50ft away,' the horsewoman told The Mail on Sunday.

'She was swamped by at least four medium-sized dogs, maybe more, attacking her, pulling her at arms and sides and she was screaming and shouting.' But perhaps surprisingly, there was no barking, a chilling detail that adds another layer to the horror.*

I agree, this is what I understood also. The DM used a typically sensationlist headline that although has a basic truth if that dog delivered the fatal bites, but nonetheless undermines the rest of the dogs' involvement.

DarkDarkNight · 17/05/2023 20:42

‘The five other dogs remain in private kennels and we are speaking with their owners regarding recommendations from the report.’

The quote from the article and the eyewitness account suggests she was attacked by more than one dog. She was killed by her own dog which means the bites to the neck, the jugular in particular were from the XL Bully. The report may show bites from the other dogs (maybe except the dachshunds which is why they’ve been allowed home).

MandyMotherOfBrian · 17/05/2023 20:43

BethDuttonsTwin · 17/05/2023 18:51

My OP is not misleading. She was killed by her own dog and at this time the only thing we do know for certain is that she was NOT attacked by 8 dogs because 2 have gone home.

Like I said.

A forensic investigation may have proven that her own dog dealt the fatal bite. And presumably has ruled out that the two dachshunds were responsible for any wounds, which is why they’ve been returned. That’s it, that’s all that is known so far. If you are taking away from this incomplete picture that it is therefore perfectly acceptable and safe to walk eight dogs at a time then thank Christ you’re no longer a dog walker.

bottleofbeer · 17/05/2023 20:43

As far as I'm concerned, if you cannot physically overpower your dog if you need to, then it's too powerful for you and not a breed you should own.

Babyroobs · 17/05/2023 20:44

I can't understand how other dog owners would have been happy for their dogs to be walked by someone owning one of these dogs ? I certainly wouldn't. Or maybe they didn't know she had one or that their dogs would be walked with it.

Windbeneathmybingowings · 17/05/2023 20:44

No one is suggesting the other dogs were not involved. You can be attacked by 8 cats and live to tell the tale. One xlbully and sadly not. That’s the point that xl fans miss. The capacity to kill is the problem. And that is the breed. Maybe it wasn’t 30 years ago (I grew up around staffies) but the staffies you see today are nothing even LIKE those dogs.

Lilacsbloominspring · 17/05/2023 20:44

If a woman is found murdered and we say a man is probably responsible, is that crowing? Or is it just most likely?

I am not reading it as crowing.

Pandaparty · 17/05/2023 20:45

HaggisBurger · 17/05/2023 19:59

Really abhor this breed and think they should be banned.

My dog was viscously attack by a American bull XL / Cane Corso young bitch recently. It had escaped from a house. Next day when I went to confront the owner he had a male American bully Xl confined to a yard with a female cane corso (both unneutered) and various other attack style dogs. He was genuinely “surprised” these two had an accidental litter of 13 … oh and the other 12 all out there. In family homes some of them.
All dogs unexercised, unsocialised, untrained but actually otherwise in clean conditions. And effing lethal if they escape which this one did. People like him shouldn’t be allowed mobile phones let alone dogs.
I kicked the shit out of that creature to try and get her to stop. She was only stopped from killing my 18kg lab X by some amazing guys who beat her with a baseball bat.

So horrifying to think of what that poor woman went through. Not victim blaming at all but you must think of the stupidity of walking an attack dog (even if it’s yours and a big softy and wouldn’t hurt a fly and only over eager and only play fighting blah blah) and 7 other dogs. It’s nuts.

I looked up the stats on fatal dogs attacks in the uk over last few years. It’s ALL bloody American Bully XLs and Cane Corsos.

That's awful. Your poor dog. I hope she/he is okay.

Butchyrestingface · 17/05/2023 20:45

Someone let this dog walker take out their two daschunds with an XL bully and another 11 stone dog. What possessed them and what possessed the dog walker to think this was in any way a good idea?

I'm thinking they couldn't have known she was walking eight dogs on her lonesome including at least the bully and the leonberger - maybe they were in a van and couldn't be seen?

My overwhelming feeling about this incident is relief that the victim's total disregard for public safety and overconfidence in her ability to handle eight dogs (including two very powerful ones) didn't result in tragedy for someone else.

MegaManic · 17/05/2023 20:46

Grumpigal · 17/05/2023 18:59

You’ve completely misrepresented the article.

The inquest isn’t even finished.

There are still more than half the dogs in kennels awaiting decision.

No problem with saying that her dog was euthanised but you’ve really skewed the story OP. Perhaps not on purpose but still.

I think anyone who can read between the lines can see if it is the bully that killed her and that is what it has been destroyed.

Porkandbeans1 · 17/05/2023 20:46

How awful. I do wonder why only 2 of the dogs are back home with their owners.