Dog walker killed by her own XL Bully Breed dog.

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NOT a pack of 8 dogs as was reported repeatedly with concurrent complete slating of all professional dog walkers.

Absolutely awful. So many of us who have worked with dogs knew this would be the outcome and that packs of 8 dogs do not behave in this way.

After investigations are complete we are now told that the only dog destroyed was the walkers own XL Bully Breed dog. Over and over again it is these dogs and still today I see a man strutting around my locale with two of these type dogs, both unneutered and off lead 🤷🏼‍♀️

Oh great now they , (dog haters) are using the slur that people with mental illness are now incapable of bringing up a good dog , that is despicable .
What vileness dog haters display .
You should be utterly ashamed .And a pp was right fearmongering .

The pp said this thread is 'fear mongering' about these breeds, then in the next paragraph said that her dog had been bitten by a bulldog, and she had also been bitten by a bulldog. I'm unsure as to how that info supported the fear mongering argument.

There is plenty of fearmongering going on on these threads , even down to now accusations dog owners are now carrying weapons WTF .

Oh great now they , (dog haters)

I'm glad you clarified what you meant by 'they'. Since I was brought up with family dogs and often pet sit for other people's dogs I wasn't aware that in fact I hate them. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I'm not sure what I can do about it, since in general the emotion I feel when around dogs seems to me to be a long way from hatred, but we are where we are.

Oh, I mean unless that was just a general brickbat you were using to avoid engaging with the argument? I mean, it's easier to accuse someone of hating dogs than to consider that they might actually rather like dogs, but be concerned about the ownership of certain breeds.

are using the slur that people with mental illness are now incapable of bringing up a good dog , that is despicable .

Well it's also nonsense and a gross misrepresentation of what I said but I guess again it's easier to argue with something that's not actually being said. I was making a comparison with gun legislation, because it's reasonably well thought out and has drastically reduced firearms offences. Whereas the dangerous dogs act is ill thought out and hasn't worked. In the UK, firearms licences can be declined in cases where someone has serious mental health issues. No-one's saying if you're depressed you can't bring up a dog properly. I do think if you're clinically paranoid a bully breed dog is perhaps not the pet of choice.

What vileness dog haters display

When you find someone who actually hates dogs, do let me know what it is they've done.

You should be utterly ashamed .And a pp was right fearmongering

I'm well aware that I'm more likely to be hit by a car than killed by a dog. However, I still think there is an increasing problem with the ownership of a certain type of dog. The DDA was introduced in 1991. That year there was one fatal dog attack in the UK. So far this year there have been four fatal attacks, 3 were bully dogs and the fourth some sort of bulldog or pitbull cross. And whilst there are worse things going on, it does seem sensible to have a discussion about these breeds and their ownership.

@WisherWood no one mentioned depression did they I certainly didn't and you didn't , you said they must be of sound mind as a catch all for any all mental illness and I'll say again it's vile .

Well, have fun misinterpreting what I've said and then frothing with outrage @wildinthecountry
I think there's an important discussion to be had regarding dogs and their licensing. I don't think we're going to get to that with your kind of hyperbole.

Akitas I’m wary of and Chows - plus some Huskies - Around other dogs.
Oldschool Staffies are normally good with people
Have mentioned before the first Imported APBT I saw
he was in an Antiques shop, the owner wasn’t there, so I sat and waited with the dog who had the hugest gape I’d seen at that time.
When the owner came in he was annoyed and said “ That dog should have had your arm off- I bought him to guard my shop”

He’d come out of 6 months quarantine- and had cost an absolute fortune- sold to the antiques guy as a “ Guard”

I was so say one of the first strangers the dog had seen-(Notting Hill)
The antiques dealer was not pleased that his dog didn’t even growl or bark.

He was a good natured dog- just ambled over -

I had no idea then how dangerous they could potentially be-

This one was a “ Red nose Pit”supposedly from a “ Game” line.

The guy was all about “ Status” and wanting to appear tough.

Huskies are a stupid dog to have for a pet. The vast majority of the lazy owners never run them. They're not meant to have a walk around a park. The poor things need to do what they were bred for.

Why would anyone leave a bully unattended in a shop? What if parents with kids had come in and annoyed it?

The poor things need to do what they were bred for.

and this is the crux of the “it’s not the breed” argument. If it’s not the breed why do sheep dogs herd, why do scent dogs sniff, why do sausage dogs not need 10 miles of walking a day. Ownership is about accepting your dogs needs. An xl bullies need is to fight. Not live in a one bed flat with children, no garden, with have one walk to the shop a day. They are not fit for domestication in the same way a bear is not.

If it had been attended it wouldn’t change the outcome.

This is what people don’t seem to understand or process. Let’s say most Bully owners are incredibly decent, responsible and mindful of how powerful their pets are. There’s still nothing they can do if the dogs turn.

Well for the sake of argument, if the owner was present and the dog attacked someone he would have been able to restrain it (and if not he shouldn’t have it). If he’s not there to get the dog under control anything could happen.

Is a bulldog and a bully the same breed? Did you miss the yorkie that bit me as well? Funny only the bulldog (which isn’t an XL bully) stuck out to you.

I agree also nothing an elderly person can do if their collie, jack Russel turns, should elderly people not own dogs because they’re too weak to control them if they turn?

People can’t restrain them @Mirabai . They have killed six grown men in three years.

And how many of them have killed people?

UKC do register American Bullies as my dog has these papers and yes she is insured.

why people on this site spread lies or talk about things they don’t know.

I wonder the same. I honestly can’t understand this insistence that small dogs or breeds that have absolutely no connection with fatalities are ‘the same’ as this breed.

NEWYORK POST 2018:

A pack of vicious small dogs mauled an Oklahoma woman to death, according to reports.
Tracy Garcia was standing outside her home last week when what are believed to be her neighbor’s six standard dachshund and terrier mixes and one border collie mix suddenly attacked her — leaving her with injuries so severe, she later died.

google is your friend 😀

Some people can restrain them it depends on the strength of the owner and the size of the dog.

From my work, I know some lovely, loving, well meaning dog owners, who quite frankly, I shudder at the chances they are taking. Animals they have absolutely no bloody control over. Dogs that pull their elderly owners down the stairs. Incredibly powerful dogs owned by incredibly weak owners. Of all breeds.

And the abused animals. The chows, the akitas, the bully's. It's amazing how many of them have been so terribly abused and neglected, and somehow, they still hold on to an essential goodness in their nature. Unlike so many humans.

I completely agree with you.
It was very irresponsible to leave any dog unattended in a shop.
Had kids rushed over to him it could have been a different outcome.

Kids are small, fast and move in an erratic manner - and squeal depending on age.

A Jack Russell ( Elderly) was fallen on by a toddler who slipped on a magazine-
The child needed A&E from that snap.

Little children and dogs are a risky combo-

How often does one see social media vids of toddlers gleefully bouncing up and down on a “Good with kids” dog’s back?
The dogs often look long suffering- Also young children grabbing dog’s facial hair and ramming their face close to the dog-

Makes me wince.

The parents laugh it off “ Oh so and so is great with kids”

But why allow it to happen in first place-?
It’s all ok til it’s not.

Google is indeed your friend.

Moving past the fact that you've had to search the world for a pack of 'dachshunds' killing a woman several years ago, where Google can show various instances within the UK in very recent history have been killed by teh breeds in question here ...

Google will demonstrate, if you look further, that the dogs that killed Tracy Garcia might have had some mixed breeds in them, but they were predominantly pit bull. I recommend caution in Googling it though, mind, as the reports show photos of the deceased dogs which will leave no-one in any doubt that their primary genetic make-up didn't own much to Dachshunds or Collies.

Nice work, arguing the wrong side of the argument. Top marks.

(God, we need an edit function on here, that post is part gibberish.)

When the owner came in he was annoyed and said “ That dog should have had your arm off- I bought him to guard my shop”

Well . . . . that's reassuring . . . 😬

(Agree re: chows as well - powerful, short-tempered animals in my experience, and not particularly good with other dogs.

Huskies are a stupid dog to have for a pet. The vast majority of the lazy owners never run them. They're not meant to have a walk around a park. The poor things need to do what they were bred for.

@megletthesecond - That is exactly right. Bred to be guards, herders, whatever - independent, energetic, and courageous, then stuck indoors 23 hours a day, many of those hours on their own, bored, under-exercised, lonely, and quite literally quietly going mad. Dogs need company, they need exercise and they need mental stimulation.