To hate people using the word 'myself' instead of just 'me'?

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There's just no need. It should be 'my friend and I'...shouldn't it? Not 'myself and my friend.'

First world 🌎 problems, I know. 😂

When I was a little kid, I had to ask, after a meal, 'Can I get down, please?'. I presumed that I was getting down off my chair, I think. When you're small, you sort of get up onto a chair, and get down off it. At least that's how I think of it.

"me and john" would never be correct

Putting "me" first is an etiquette rule, not a grammar one. Sometimes it makes sense to put "me" first for emphasis.

One thing that really bugs me is people using the noun 'tantrum' as a verb. 'My toddler was tantrumming in Lidl'. NO. Your toddler had a tantrum in Lidl.

But functional shifts like nouning and verbing have been features of English since forever, so as a somewhat liberal pedant, I'm not really bothered by it. I do draw the line at "invite" as a noun, though. So inelegant.

This drives me mad, and makes people sound so uneducated

Yes. Not a tenable position, I know. I think it's that double 'm' - it looks sort of inelegant.

Also, a tantrum (noun) is something that happens, whereas 'trantrumming' is something that a person does.

A colleague of mine always says “if you call back and ask to speak to myself” it drives me mad

Personally NO. English is my 3rd language. I can speak english, write in english but sometimes makes grammatical error. But yes i can speak 3 languages. What makes me annoyed is people who speak english tend to get annoyed with immigrant who make grammatical error while themselves not even bilingual.

In my head, I hear it in Posh aka Victoria Beckham's accent: "Myself and David ..."

Agree!

I’ve got a colleague who uses that AND “please may you”.

@Abcdefgh1234 I expect most posters are annoyed by native English speakers using it.

From my experience as fellow English as 3rd language immigrant, people don't get annoyed at me as they do at natives.
99% of us would never use of instead of have and myself, yourself, ourselves like this.

Game of Thrones was amazing with spreading awareness about less/fewer😂

Oh god I hate it. I think people who use it want to sound important and intelligent. Or something.

I wonder, and the example some have of this being common in "estate agents" if it is a lower middle class / upper working class misunderstanding of correct English?

Many posters are keen to support dialect pronounciation but happy to pile on the above error. No war but class war?

So do I. It drives me crazy.

Agree OP, it's annoying!

My exH says 'utilise' instead of use which also gets on my wick.

Less v fewer really grates!

Yes, profoundly irritating. Presumably people think it’s more ‘correct’, in the same way that they say, ‘between you and I…’.

Ditto sentences starting with, ‘Me and her/him went/did…’.

This 'misuse' has a history going back centuries. Some grammar studies seem to show that in current usage while the rule for fewer stands, the word less is used more fluidly. The comparative less is used with both countable and uncountable nouns in some informal discourse environments and in most dialects of English. The Cambridge Guide to English Usage says that the "pressure to substitute fewer for less seems to have developed out of all proportion to the ambiguity it may provide in noun phrases like less promising results". It describes conformance with this pressure as a shibboleth and the choice "between the more formal fewer and the more spontaneous less" as a stylistic choice. I have to say that I agree with that, much as it used to annoy me.

@Diorama1 , also, ‘I washed myself,’ ‘I told myself…’ etc. As you can see, ‘me’ would not do in either of those.

Plus for emphasis, e.g.: ‘I wouldn’t enjoy that myself, but each to their own…’

People use "myself" incorrectly all the time but I'm not sure even you know the correct grammar based on your OP.

Some people might incorrectly use "myself and my friend" in place of "my friend and me" and that is not a substitute for "my friend and I".

I wouldn’t use it in a professional email, but talking I would sometimes say “yourself”, “himself”, “herself” etc because I’m Irish.

Apparently it comes straight from Irish grammar; this website explains it: https://abitirish.tumblr.com/post/30621748487/twas-himself-that-was-in-it

I can’t really comment about why English people have started using “myself”, but I do feel the last paragraph sums things up quite nicely regarding some people’s attitudes to different dialects, accents etc.

”… the weird way some Irish dialects use English (as their native language, don’t forget) is not “wrong” or “stupid”. Rather, it’s directly informed by the way Irish is nailed together, and an attempt to make Irish grammar fit into English usage.”

@Diorama1

I was taught to think about the sentence without the other person or people in it. The other person is a red herring. And you always put yourself last in a list because it's polite to do so.

I ran for the bus.
John and I ran for the bus.
(You wouldn't say "Me ran for the bus").

Please contact me if you have any further questions.
Please contact John or me if you have any further questions.
(You wouldn't say "Please contact I ...").

You wouldn't say "Me went to the cinema yesterday" so why say "Me and John went to the cinema yesterday"? The "me" often creeps in when there's another person involved. Just say what you would without anyone else involved and then add their names before yours.