To hate people using the word 'myself' instead of just 'me'?

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There's just no need. It should be 'my friend and I'...shouldn't it? Not 'myself and my friend.'

First world 🌎 problems, I know. 😂

Can I ask why some people pronounce ‘ate’ as ‘et’ rather than rhyming ‘ate’ with ‘gate’.
Which pronunciation is correct?
I remember being corrected to ‘ate’ because ‘et’ sounded common (English teacher who gave Hyacinth Bucket a run for her money) but I notice that people who wish to appear ‘posh’ are using the ‘et’ pronunciation 😁

I think the ‘and I’ is also similar pretension.

@EdgeOfACoin , 'Me and John' isn't necessarily wrong, but 'John and me', 'John and I' or ''John and myself', depending on context, looks so much better.

@adriftabroad , To me, it is.
Either way, a horrible and clumsy expression.

"Please contact" me will do. Why say "do not hesitate.." stupid.

"Please do not hesitate to contact" ain't no double negative.
It's correct English, so isn't 'stupid'

I bloody hate it too. "IS it for yourself?" No it bloody isn't

@Scarfweather , I say ate as et. That's how I've always said it.

I think the ‘and I’ is also similar pretension.
Oh dear.
Do you ever say sentences like 'I went on holiday last year' or 'I was at work yesterday'?

Add your partner or friend into the sentence and it becomes something like:
'Alex and I went on holiday last year' or 'Alex and I were at work yesterday'.
You use the 'and I' because if you were only talking about yourself, you'd say 'I'.

If something happened to you, you'd say 'That happened to me'.
Add Alex, and it's 'That happened to Alex and me'

Saying 'That happened to Alex and I' is wrong, as is 'That happened to Alex and myself'.

Who has been saying myself and my friend!!??

It's acceptable in Hiberno English

I'm sure I was taught it is "John and I" or "Me and John"

Never "John and me"

sometimes “me and John” is right!

Incorrect. It should be either "John and I" or "John and me".

It depends on the content.

For example, she gave the apples to John and me (us) not John and I (we). But John and I (we) went to the cinema not me and John (us) went to the cinema.

YANBU. Especially annoying in emails from people who think they are being terribly professional and intellectual - they have no idea that it just makes them look ignorant!

Someone has just messaged me on teams and said "hopefully myself and Arnold with have it ready by then"

Ha ha ha ha!

How clever you are, sniggering behind the back of the ignorant 🙄

The backs of the ignorant

It is very annoying. Has anyone noticed that the latest in corp speak is to 'find a resolve' to a problem

They think they’re being posh or polite. Instead, it just makes them look ignorant.

I have read many times that both "Me and John" and "John and me" are correct, that there is in fact no firm grammatical rule dictating that one must put oneself last.

@Oldnproud , I think the 'rule' is taught because if you say "DP and I did something' or 'Something happened to me and DP'
you are less likely to use the wrong one.

Imagine the late Queen saying ' I and my husband are...', it sounds wrong (it isn't) and clumsy, whereas 'Me and my husband are ...' doesn't, even though it is grammatically wrong.
'My husband an I are...' is correct.

This is true. Putting yourself last is a matter of etiquette, not grammar.

I was thinking this, it seems so common in Ireland that it would never strike me as weird (and people even use himself/herself, as in 'myself and himself are going on holiday next week'). Never really thought about it but I assume it's just a direct translation of mé féin etc!
Using 'myself/herself/yourself' etc doesn't sound pompous to me at all, if anything it sounds familiar and friendly but I suppose like anything it depends on the local dialect!

You have completely misread what I typed. I know when to use me and when to use I. It is the claim that it is always "John and me" rather than "me and John" which is contrary to what I was taught.

Many people are saying "me and John" is always wrong.

Pete gave one to me and John gave one to Emma.

Ah sure you know yourself @salamithumbs

@salamithumbs , @JaneJeffer , that's dialect, not grammar.

I know that, and I would never argue that 'myself' is grammatically correct in that context, I'm just saying that it's common to use in some areas. Previous posters were saying that people use 'myself' in an attempt to sound grandiose and I was just pointing out that that's not always the case.

Yes and as I said perfectly acceptable here.