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Arrested for holding a banner - can't ruin a big day, can we... PART 2

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vera99 · 09/05/2023 13:32

A continuation of the debate started at https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4800317-arrested-for-holding-a-banner-cant-ruin-a-big-day-can-we?page=39&reply=126045871

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Roussette · 09/05/2023 13:45

Thank you @vera99

I hope this continues to fester and more and more are made aware of what went on.

Here is a link to their Twitter account, in case anyone wants to follow them.
A quote from Graham Smith...
"Their policing on Saturday was about the king first. They as much admitted it when they suggested rights depended on what occasion it was."

https://twitter.com/RepublicStaff

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NeverMyKing · 09/05/2023 13:52

Thank you @vera99 😍

NeverMyKing · 09/05/2023 13:54

The publicity has been incredible - and the fact that Charles has chosen to stay silent reinforces the fact that he’s only a king to those who serve. Stark contrast to the Dutch monarchy who actually engage in conversation with republicans when they protest. Can u IMAGINE Charles doing that?? 😂

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vera99 · 09/05/2023 13:55

KB gets all snippy at the end ! I suspect that sooner rather than later the MSM won't give him a platform any more as he always gives a good account of himself and comes over as very reasonable as of course he is.

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vera99 · 09/05/2023 13:59

I would accept the Dutch monarchy as an end point but I seriously doubt the Windsors want to go anywhere near that template or are even capable of it emotionally. Most importantly he is down and dirty with the youth who love them back. Think Michael Eavis with a crown !

This is Amsterdam during King's Day

This year I went again to Amsterdam for Kingsday and as always it was a lot of fun.if you don't know what it is, the 27th of April it's Kingsday (Koningsdag...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhD96VuU2s4

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NeverMyKing · 09/05/2023 14:05

Oh absolutely - a very different model! No Charles would hate it - he thrives off the deference and power.

Whaeanui · 09/05/2023 14:34

Their policing on Saturday was about the king first. They as much admitted it when they suggested rights depended on what occasion it was."

Thats really bad isn’t it?

Novella4 · 09/05/2023 14:40

I haven't read the thread but I just want to say thanks for the new thread

This is so important

I hope I'm wrong but I suspect 'they'
didn't want any protestors seen - I don't know if that was from baby charles or the government but it has backfired

I have seen tweets from people who were there saying the crowds were much bigger than the media showed - if they showed them at all

Graham Smith is doing a great job so far

Whaeanui · 09/05/2023 14:41

He did really well with that interview considering how combative Kay was, she’s so rude!

Roussette · 09/05/2023 14:42

Whaeanui · 09/05/2023 14:34

Their policing on Saturday was about the king first. They as much admitted it when they suggested rights depended on what occasion it was."

Thats really bad isn’t it?

Yes. It had to sink in with me too.

So ... if you are protesting about climate change or the CoL, or NHS workers protesting, that appears to be OK. (But no Stop Oil) But if you are protesting about the Monarchy, it isn't.

Roussette · 09/05/2023 14:43

Whaeanui · 09/05/2023 14:41

He did really well with that interview considering how combative Kay was, she’s so rude!

Yes, the only consolation is... she is exactly the same with whoever she interviews so it definitely wasn't personal or biaised.

Novella4 · 09/05/2023 15:05

One royalist argument you hear all the time is that the Windsors are apolitical ( not!) and that they unite the country

They really don't .
They are pushing it to say they unite England but once it's 50/50 - what then ?

NeverMyKing · 09/05/2023 15:06

Yes their argument on Saturday was that our right to protest is contextual - a truly horrifying thought. Republic have been protesting at quite a number of royal events since September - it’ll be interesting to see the “context” of the next one.

There were about 2000 protesters there - far more than were shown on the BBC. Why is the BBC censoring what the viewers see?!?

Frabbits · 09/05/2023 15:21

What a load of shite that article is.

NeverMyKing · 09/05/2023 15:21

This link is frightening - “the crowds cheered the arrests”. Well yes they would wouldn’t they? 🤦‍♀️ So it’s now mob rule? Whoever cheers the loudest gets the police to arrest the others.

This is the moron who is sorting out the Met? God help us all.

NeverMyKing · 09/05/2023 15:22

@Frabbits absolutely. By his logic whoever cheers the loudest wins the fight.

PollyThePixie · 09/05/2023 15:25

The arrests I’m aware of were of people in a van that contained placards as well as chains and padlocks. By all means protest with your banners but planning on chaining yourself to walls etc is too much.

Roussette · 09/05/2023 15:26

NeverMyKing · 09/05/2023 15:21

This link is frightening - “the crowds cheered the arrests”. Well yes they would wouldn’t they? 🤦‍♀️ So it’s now mob rule? Whoever cheers the loudest gets the police to arrest the others.

This is the moron who is sorting out the Met? God help us all.

Someone posted about how they wouldn't want a rabble spoiling everything, holding placards, shouting. How they would feel intimidated.

My god, the rabble are royalists ... I saw some footage and their language telling the group of protestors to fuck off and worse, was awful. That's what you call a rabble. They are the intimidating ones, as the Republic people are in a tiny minority.

Those from Republic are told how to behave, what to bring with them, what not to bring with them etc.

Yet the Royalists can do exactly what they want, leave the place looking like a warzone when they've finished cheering their man in a crown...

Frabbits · 09/05/2023 15:26

PollyThePixie · 09/05/2023 15:25

The arrests I’m aware of were of people in a van that contained placards as well as chains and padlocks. By all means protest with your banners but planning on chaining yourself to walls etc is too much.

Not true.

They had ordinary fabric luggage straps with them, as often used with placards to stop them being dropped/blown around in the wind and stuff. Nothing that could be used to actually attach yourself to anything.

Roussette · 09/05/2023 15:27

PollyThePixie · 09/05/2023 15:25

The arrests I’m aware of were of people in a van that contained placards as well as chains and padlocks. By all means protest with your banners but planning on chaining yourself to walls etc is too much.

No chains
No padlocks

String or straps to hold the placards together in the back of the van so they weren't sliding around. Even the Police have confirmed this

Please be aware that what you are saying is not true.

PollyThePixie · 09/05/2023 15:29

I hadn’t heard that the Police had corrected what was on the news.

milveycrohn · 09/05/2023 15:29

I think the police are caught between a rock and a hard place, tbh.
We saw something, I believe at the late Queen's funeral, when a protestor was attacked by others nearby trying to show their respect. So it may be that the police thought that protestors would cause a similar type of incident, where one or more could be attacked by others trying to celebrate.
On the whole, I think protestors should be allowed, but I think the police can't win. If protestors had caused an incident, they presumably thought it best they were not there.
I think it largely depends on the kind of protest. There were rumours that some 'Stop oil' protesters were going to blow some kind of whistle to disturb the horses, which can be very dangerous. The horse can bolt, or charge into the crowd. So, the police were possibly heavy handed, but maybe they saw it as being cautious.