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Is it just me or are narcissistic people everywhere these days?

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Perpetuallyexhaustedtoddlermum · 08/05/2023 09:29

Everyday I'm seeing threads on here describing sinister narcissistic abuse and women coming to the realisation that their DP/DH is a narcissist of some description.
What is causing the increase in narcissists?
Could it be that society is more aware of narcissism in general?
According to experts, only 1-5% of the population is a narcissist. So those people are clearly doing lots of damage somehow.
As for myself, I was raised by a toxic mother who was basically like another teenage girl in the house, the atmosphere was awful and she still can't work out why we're estranged.
My stbxp is a dangerously manipulative and abusive covert narcissist who I'm planning my escape from every day now.

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itsabigtree · 10/05/2023 17:19

Perpetuallyexhaustedtoddlermum · 10/05/2023 16:28

I've done it. I've reported it to the police online. Wish me luck. I'm going to need it

Well done. Sending you strength

Perpetuallyexhaustedtoddlermum · 10/05/2023 17:35

@itsabigtree thank you. So far from what I know his offending is internet based but I'd never forgive myself if he escalated in in person offending so to speak.

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FictionalCharacter · 10/05/2023 21:57

Please be careful how much detail you put on here OP.
Please be reassured that if he tries to plead insanity to try getting away with a serious crime, it won't work. He'd be evaluated and they'd see through him. My relative who has worked with forensic psychiatrists says they absolutely can't be fooled.

Perpetuallyexhaustedtoddlermum · 11/05/2023 09:26

FictionalCharacter · 10/05/2023 21:57

Please be careful how much detail you put on here OP.
Please be reassured that if he tries to plead insanity to try getting away with a serious crime, it won't work. He'd be evaluated and they'd see through him. My relative who has worked with forensic psychiatrists says they absolutely can't be fooled.

Well that's comforting I suppose but I'm hardly able to sleep now that I know how unhinged he is. My DAunt thinks he's a complete psycho now that she nows everything.

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TuesandThursNero · 11/05/2023 10:29

Perpetuallyexhaustedtoddlermum · 11/05/2023 09:26

Well that's comforting I suppose but I'm hardly able to sleep now that I know how unhinged he is. My DAunt thinks he's a complete psycho now that she nows everything.

So… surely she is willing to help you and your son?

Perpetuallyexhaustedtoddlermum · 11/05/2023 10:34

@TuesandThursNero yes but there's only so much she can do. Lives 30 odd miles away with multiple health issues. She's clued me in on a scheme that I could use to get a new tenancy where she and the rest of the family are. It's a landlord to landlord transfer scheme between councils. It's very hard to meet the criteria but she's pretty certain that I will and be placed in the emergency housing band, meaning if everything goes to plan I'll be out of here in weeks.

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Perpetuallyexhaustedtoddlermum · 11/05/2023 11:53

He's an absolute freak. I get a no caller ID number phone me and I answer thinking it's my abuse support worker but the caller ends as soon as I answer and then immediately I get a message from him saying good morning. He's actually stalking me.

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AntikytheraMech · 27/06/2023 02:18

Perpetuallyexhaustedtoddlermum · 08/05/2023 10:06

@NeatCompactSleeper @DecommissionedVag @BrightYellowDaffodil a true narcissist is well and truly crazy making and often you genuinely feel like you're the problem or even think you're a narcissist yourself.
My last partner before this one was also an a hole but stbxp takes the cake.
In one of his most recent rants he actually called my Ddad a paedophile. Which is obviously untrue. At that moment, the mask didn't just slip. It completely fell off and I saw him for what he was. A rational person doesn't throw baseless and dangerous accusations out of nowhere.
Combine that with all the lies he tells to make himself look good to others and in reality he's a deadbeat father and a bum.
In addition to telling me that I'm mentally unstable and unfit to look after my son.
Yeah this one definitely is a narcissist.

Just read this - yep - manupulation, putting down, always was right, physical violance whenm questioned or challanged, constant beretment, hoarding money, hidden agendas, affailrs, lying, always "needing to be the best" and "never being wrong at any cost" Sence of being . or needing to be better or superior to everyone else?" (My Now Ex following physical assault, broken ribs, arrest for ABH had all of those, who also then took me for 70% of my life earnings and a large chunk of an inheritance after being chucked out - and then came after more money every month. These sound like Narc? if those are the traits of a NPD, Duck Walk/sound etc?

LoopyLoo1991 · 27/06/2023 05:03

Yes.
Unfortunately most of them are managers, supervisors or people with some tiny bit of power.
Or have the surname Tate ...

Excluding Catherine of course ...

RantyAnty · 27/06/2023 05:49

Dark triad is a better way to describe it

Dark triad - Wikipedia en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad

ChapelNotChurchActually · 27/06/2023 06:10

Perpetuallyexhaustedtoddlermum · 08/05/2023 11:24

Thank you for this. I've been looking for something like this. I've been dreading family court with my narcissist because I know how charming he can be.

Sorry I’m a bit late to the party. Just wanted to say, thank you so very much for this link to that great resource.

It’s been years since I had to see or hear from ExH, but I still need help with processing it all, as do my DC now in their 20s. (They are nc with him now.)

I’m actually all therapied out, so this is so valuable for quiet reading.

I think I picked him btw because of my upbringing. We seek out what we’re taught to be familiar with. That’s why perhaps it might seem like I’m making it all up, or misapplying lazy internet labels, because this sort of person has featured large in my life.

But it’s a feature of my sadly dysfunctional life, not a fabrication.

Aprilsh0wers · 27/06/2023 07:19

I think emotionally abusive men or men who are incapable of maturing can be confused for narcissists because the traits are similar. The true narcissist population probably does remain low but the amount of shitty men who are selfish and abusive in some way is very high, sadly.

I think many men have always been this way but women finally have a platform to discuss what actually happens behind closed doors and the shame is slowly fading.

ChapelNotChurchActually · 27/06/2023 07:48

Does anyone know, did the OP check in on another thread? Her last post here was in May.

FormerlyPathologicallyHappy · 27/06/2023 07:59

Conditions can be under diagnosed. Rates of births from incest were found to be higher than previously thought when dna testing from companies like 23 and me started to return data.

Im sure former mil and sil have personality disorders but neither will ever be formally diagnosed unless they attempt suicide and fail. Their behaviour is far outside of “normalacy” but only exhibited to close family. They repeat the pattern where they start spending time with extended family, get close, overstep and behave badly and don’t get invited again.

LoopyLoo1991 · 28/06/2023 16:11

The 'I'm the main character!' thing is becoming a big issue.
Some people now cannot stand no attention being paid to them.
Think smartphones have made this much worse in last 15 years as you can hardly escape some of these people! Even when blocked on social media, their videos still appear online to irritate in five different ways 😡

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