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Bank holiday rage

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Reality · 08/05/2023 08:36

If one more person says to me ‘yeah but you’ll get an extra day off’ about working today I am going to lose my shit.

Family group chat have said it over the weekend (they all have office jobs) and then even my DH has said it this morning!

Yes I’ve worked every day this BH weekend. No that doesn’t mean I’ll get an extra day off for the extra BH. That’s not how it works.

I wasn’t resentful about it but I am starting to be with everyone around me telling me how great it is that we ‘all’ get an extra days holiday. And I think many of them are in for a disappointment when they notice that they haven’t got an extra day either, it’ll just come off their annual leave entitlement.

OP posts:
ClairDeLaLune · 08/05/2023 10:00

I’m part time working 3 days out of 5, to take a whole day off today would mean I get 0.4 days taken off my AL. So I’m working the 0.4 days later this week, meaning I’m working when I wouldn’t be. Doesn’t seem like I’m gaining much in the way of the BH! And yes I agree about the parasites!

Neededanewuserhandle · 08/05/2023 10:02

Soggydog · 08/05/2023 09:11

I think that what people are trying to say is that you are fortunate as you get to choose when you want to use the day of holiday allowance that most have to use on a bank holiday. Most people have to use it on a specific day ie a bank holiday as that is when their office is closed whereas you can choose (although presumably can't choose today). For some it might irk them they have to take a day off when they don't want to whilst others might enjoy being off when the majority of people are.

And as OP says, these people are ignorant twats.

Schroedingersimmigrant · 08/05/2023 10:03

😂 this thread is hilarious.
Sorry OP. Some posters are 100% proving your point

Neededanewuserhandle · 08/05/2023 10:03

Minierme · 08/05/2023 09:53

Many, many people will be given bank holidays as an extra even if they have to work them. Sounds like you have a crappy employer. Find a new one. The rage should be about being poorly treated not about people with better conditions being surprised by your situation.

Find a new one
What a twattish comment.

coffeecupsandwaxmelts · 08/05/2023 10:03

Schroedingersimmigrant · 08/05/2023 10:03

😂 this thread is hilarious.
Sorry OP. Some posters are 100% proving your point

Yep 😂 I love the arrogance too!

Zanatdy · 08/05/2023 10:05

Part timers will have hours added and need to book off the bank holiday, but they are given extra hours for the extra bank holiday. People who work on Mondays often need to use some AL to account for all the bank holidays but part timers who don’t work Monday end up with the extra hours to use at other times. Full timers don’t need to do anything, certainly doesn’t come off AL

coffeecupsandwaxmelts · 08/05/2023 10:07

@Blossomtoes if you'd read my comments you'd know I'm well aware of that.

But OP's friends and family are telling her she must be wrong and that she must get another day elsewhere.

That's not the case and it's incredibly irritating when people think they know more about your employment contract than you do.

RufustheSpecuIatingreindeer · 08/05/2023 10:08

ClairDeLaLune · 08/05/2023 10:00

I’m part time working 3 days out of 5, to take a whole day off today would mean I get 0.4 days taken off my AL. So I’m working the 0.4 days later this week, meaning I’m working when I wouldn’t be. Doesn’t seem like I’m gaining much in the way of the BH! And yes I agree about the parasites!

Mine is similar

i have to use a day’s holiday on this bank holiday (actually 2 but its been made worse by this extra day)

i am going to see if i can make the time up

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 08/05/2023 10:10

Zanatdy · 08/05/2023 10:05

Part timers will have hours added and need to book off the bank holiday, but they are given extra hours for the extra bank holiday. People who work on Mondays often need to use some AL to account for all the bank holidays but part timers who don’t work Monday end up with the extra hours to use at other times. Full timers don’t need to do anything, certainly doesn’t come off AL

No legally they do not have to give extra hours just because we have an extra bank holiday it all comes down to individual contracts and some people will find themselves with less time this year to book of their own choosing because they have use it on this bank holiday

Neededanewuserhandle · 08/05/2023 10:11

Zanatdy · 08/05/2023 10:05

Part timers will have hours added and need to book off the bank holiday, but they are given extra hours for the extra bank holiday. People who work on Mondays often need to use some AL to account for all the bank holidays but part timers who don’t work Monday end up with the extra hours to use at other times. Full timers don’t need to do anything, certainly doesn’t come off AL

Totally incorrect and another poster proving the OP's point.

trisfreya · 08/05/2023 10:12

Reality · 08/05/2023 08:51

Some of the replies to this are proving my point.

This is EXACTLY what I’m talking about.

People in jobs with more than statutory allowance, with employers who give them 30 days off plus bank holidays., telling me I will get an extra day. That is not the norm.

Holiday entitlement is 28 days and bank holidays aren’t special or extra. But people keep assuring me they are and the assumption that everyone in the country is getting an extra day off is making my head explode.

your legal entitlement is 20 days plus bank holidays - normally 8 - but this financial year techincally there are 10

+1 for Coronation

+1 as Good Friday is in the 2023/2024 financial year so depends on how you company does their holiday year

You should be getting an extra day added on to your annual leave if you work BH

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 08/05/2023 10:14

trisfreya · 08/05/2023 10:12

your legal entitlement is 20 days plus bank holidays - normally 8 - but this financial year techincally there are 10

+1 for Coronation

+1 as Good Friday is in the 2023/2024 financial year so depends on how you company does their holiday year

You should be getting an extra day added on to your annual leave if you work BH

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Wrong, legal minimum is 5.6 weeks (28 days) Bank Holidays do not come into it at all, they are entirely at the discretion of the employer plus annual leave years are not tied to the financial year

coffeecupsandwaxmelts · 08/05/2023 10:15

Zanatdy · 08/05/2023 10:05

Part timers will have hours added and need to book off the bank holiday, but they are given extra hours for the extra bank holiday. People who work on Mondays often need to use some AL to account for all the bank holidays but part timers who don’t work Monday end up with the extra hours to use at other times. Full timers don’t need to do anything, certainly doesn’t come off AL

Part timers will have hours added and need to book off the bank holiday, but they are given extra hours for the extra bank holiday. People who work on Mondays often need to use some AL to account for all the bank holidays but part timers who don’t work Monday end up with the extra hours to use at other times. Full timers don’t need to do anything, certainly doesn’t come off AL

That's incorrect.

Full time employees are entitled to 28 days annual leave. As long as they receive that amount off, it's perfectly legal for an employer not to give them extra time for additional bank holidays.

The same applies for part-time workers. As long as they get the statutory minimum, they aren't (by law) entitled to extra days for extra bank holidays - that's only the case if their contract says "x amount of annual leave plus all bank holidays".

RufustheSpecuIatingreindeer · 08/05/2023 10:15

some people will find themselves with less time this year to book of their own choosing because they have use it on this bank holiday

yes, exactly!

greenlychee · 08/05/2023 10:15

most people get an extra day off this weekend. other people get an extra day off another time. it's not rocket science is it. Just be happy about getting another day off at some point, even if it's not today.

coffeecupsandwaxmelts · 08/05/2023 10:16

your legal entitlement is 20 days plus bank holidays - normally 8 - but this financial year techincally there are 10

Wrong.

Your legal entitlement is 28 days of annual leave. This doesn't necessarily include bank holidays.

RufustheSpecuIatingreindeer · 08/05/2023 10:16

+1 as Good Friday is in the 2023/2024 financial year so depends on how you company does their holiday year

ohhhhhh thats why I’m down two days

Schroedingersimmigrant · 08/05/2023 10:17

greenlychee · 08/05/2023 10:15

most people get an extra day off this weekend. other people get an extra day off another time. it's not rocket science is it. Just be happy about getting another day off at some point, even if it's not today.

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coffeecupsandwaxmelts · 08/05/2023 10:18

greenlychee · 08/05/2023 10:15

most people get an extra day off this weekend. other people get an extra day off another time. it's not rocket science is it. Just be happy about getting another day off at some point, even if it's not today.

Tell me you haven't got a clue about the law without telling me you haven't got a clue about the law 😂

BurntOutGirl · 08/05/2023 10:18

Dontcallmescarface · 08/05/2023 09:20

The legal minimum holiday entitlement for FT employees is 28 days. This INCLUDES the normal 8 days bank holiday a year (either worked in lieu or taken as a BH). As this year has 9 Bank Holidays, the the OP is correct when she says that, for some employees, if the employer has not added the extra day and the workplace is closed then it will come out of the 28 days minimum, meaning that those employees will "lose" a day they could have taken when they wanted.

I get 26 days + BH's so have got the extra day this year my DSiS has the statutory minimum of 28 days and has had to take the extra day (her workplace is closed today), out of her A/L.

Have l understood it correctly....

So if the Government had wanted to ensure everyone benefited from the extra BH, they should have stated for this year only, FT employees legal minimum is 29 days?

LadyPoison · 08/05/2023 10:18

Reality · 08/05/2023 08:36

If one more person says to me ‘yeah but you’ll get an extra day off’ about working today I am going to lose my shit.

Family group chat have said it over the weekend (they all have office jobs) and then even my DH has said it this morning!

Yes I’ve worked every day this BH weekend. No that doesn’t mean I’ll get an extra day off for the extra BH. That’s not how it works.

I wasn’t resentful about it but I am starting to be with everyone around me telling me how great it is that we ‘all’ get an extra days holiday. And I think many of them are in for a disappointment when they notice that they haven’t got an extra day either, it’ll just come off their annual leave entitlement.

I’m self employed so I’ll be working today. I can’t afford 3 bank holidays off in one month.

A lot of other self employed and small trade businesses seem to be working too today.

trisfreya · 08/05/2023 10:18

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 08/05/2023 10:14

Wrong, legal minimum is 5.6 weeks (28 days) Bank Holidays do not come into it at all, they are entirely at the discretion of the employer plus annual leave years are not tied to the financial year

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You're right ( and that pains me to say as I am a knowitall!!)

I think we tend to think (office worker) that we get 20 day + 8 for bank holidays and not 28 over all

Hugasauras · 08/05/2023 10:18

God give me the absolute confidence of a MN poster who knows nothing about how holidays work posting on a thread where OP is complaining about people who don't know how holidays work.

spottybug · 08/05/2023 10:19

Educate them then don't have a go at them

coffeecupsandwaxmelts · 08/05/2023 10:19

RufustheSpecuIatingreindeer · 08/05/2023 10:15

some people will find themselves with less time this year to book of their own choosing because they have use it on this bank holiday

yes, exactly!

Yes, and some people like OP just have the same amount of annual leave as they do every other year, with no option to take today off as a bank holiday or take another day in lieu.