Page 20 | To not understand why anyone would not watch the Coronation?

Katypp · 2023-05-06T12:53:02+00:00

OK, I get that you are an edgy republican, but are you not a little bit nosy? And if you really don't care, why are you on every Coronation thread telling everyone you don't care? Why would you not just ignore them, as you don't care? I personally have no time for the Royal family and think they should be abolished completely, but I can't imagine not watching such a big thing for the whole country, in the same way I watched the euro Cup final even though I could not name any of the players as I have no interest in football. Why wouldn't you?

IncyWincyGrownUp · 07/05/2023 14:56

Glitterblue · 07/05/2023 02:20

What a bitter sounding lot some of you are!

What’s butter about going to the seaside? We’d had the day out planned for ages, nobody was working, it’s just after payday so we were all feeling less skint than usual, the trains were booked and paid for.

Was it really bitterness to go out and have fun instead of sitting at home watching telly?

JassyRadlett · 07/05/2023 14:57

Florenz · 07/05/2023 02:18

It's part of history. It'd be like intentionally not watching the Moon Landings or the Berlin Wall coming down.

Could you explain why you think this coronation is a pivot point in history in the same way as either of these - and both were self-evidently pivot points even at the time?

BeyondMyWits · 07/05/2023 14:58

Outofthepark · 07/05/2023 12:13

Not really 😄as one was the historic fall of repressive communism, a triumph of David over Goliath which happened to the sound of the Hoff of all things (who wouldn't watch that?!), and another was landing on another actual planet (can't imagine missing that either). Whereas the coronation was a rich old bloke who had some metal placed on his head, at a cost of quarter of a million pounds! We've paid for it, it's a step too far for anyone to have a go at us for not giving up our day to be parked in front of the telly to watch it, too!

Quarter of a billion...

250,000,000 pounds... obscene, when he could have had a slimmed down more private one in keeping with the cost of living crisis.

Florenz · 07/05/2023 15:00

I wouldn't say it was a pivot point but it is still the beginning of a new era in British history, just like the Coronation of Queen Elizabeth in 1953 was.

DiscoDragon · 07/05/2023 15:02

Well I've just got Hogwarts Legacy so that's how I've spent most of my weekend! I'm not interested in the royal family or their church services and hats and I'm not really sure why I'm expected to be to be honest?

Watching a 97hr long televised church service and people waving a lot sounds boring as fuck, I can't understand why anyone would want to watch that!

Florenz · 07/05/2023 15:05

Oh I can understand people not watching the whole thing but I think everyone should be tuning in for the main coronation ceremony. It should be something that unites us as Britons and it's sad that so many people just want to create division and unrest.

99victoria · 07/05/2023 15:09

I didn't watch it because I'm not a fan of the monarchy and I do feel that it was an awful display of wealth and privilege in a very challenging time for many. I don't want to be a part of that.

I amused myself quite happily yesterday though as I always do on a Saturday. I didn't feel the need to announce to anyone that I wasn't watching it. And, as for not being in touch with current affairs, I only had 3 hours sleep on Thursday night because I went to our city hall to do the verification count after the local elections. I got home at 2.30 and was up again at 6am for my day job in a school!

BewareTheBeardedDragon · 07/05/2023 15:15

Crikey, it is absolutely nothing whatsoever like the moon landings or the Berlin Wall coming down. I'm genuinely shocked that anyone really thinks this.
I didn't watch because I have no interest and had better things to do. And I don't believe it has any glaring historical importance.
I might have been vaguely curious enough to switch on for a moment, but the arrests prior erased any curiosity I had and turned me from ambiguous non-interest to anger. 🤷‍♀️

Outofthepark · 07/05/2023 15:16

You are right, satellite 😁

PinkLemonadee · 07/05/2023 15:16

Because I had £14 left in my account recently and the sheer excess makes me feel physically ill. Kids are going hungry and cold and he's ridinf round in a solid gold carriage with AC. Fuck the monarchy.

3peassuit · 07/05/2023 15:24

I didn’t watch it because I have no interest and think the royals will be managed out in the next generation or two.

OneTC · 07/05/2023 15:29

EmpressaurusOfCats · 07/05/2023 13:16

There was a fly past, I’m on the flight path.

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Bummer. I thought I'd read they cancelled it because of the weather so didn't look out for it. I wasn't in London this time though.

JassyRadlett · 07/05/2023 15:47

Florenz · 07/05/2023 15:00

I wouldn't say it was a pivot point but it is still the beginning of a new era in British history, just like the Coronation of Queen Elizabeth in 1953 was.

The context is totally different, though, and it's arguable that it's a new period in history. A young female monarch taking the throne with a likely long reign ahead, less than a decade after a catastrophic conflict is very different from where we are today. The oldest English monarch ever to be crowned, after his mother's record-breaking reign? It's more Edward VII than Elizabeth II.

And the 'new Elizabethans' was also a clever piece of political marketing that the country had turned the corner and was enjoying a fresh start with a youthful monarch, evoking the Golden age of the first Elizabeth, etc at a time when Britain desperately needed a fresh sense of its purpose and identity as empire crumbled around it.

It's hard to see how the new King, regardless of his merits, would be able to play a similar symbolic role in refreshing or renewing the nation's identity that allows us to look back on 1952/53 as the start of a new era in British life. I could be wrong - time will tell! But increasingly our monarchs aren't terribly relevant to how public life plays out, unless the government chooses to involve them.

MasterBeth · 07/05/2023 16:15

Florenz · 07/05/2023 15:00

I wouldn't say it was a pivot point but it is still the beginning of a new era in British history, just like the Coronation of Queen Elizabeth in 1953 was.

History is not determined by whose face is on the stamps.

The 2nd Elizabethan era was interesting because it coincided with post-war consensus, the rise of the welfare state and the computer age, all of which are more historic than the Queen herself.

Nothing will change because Charles is on the throne. The history of Britain during his reign will revolve around the post-Brexit, post-Covid economy, the climate emergency and whatever surprises the world throws up.

Mirabai · 07/05/2023 18:48

JassyRadlett · 07/05/2023 15:47

The context is totally different, though, and it's arguable that it's a new period in history. A young female monarch taking the throne with a likely long reign ahead, less than a decade after a catastrophic conflict is very different from where we are today. The oldest English monarch ever to be crowned, after his mother's record-breaking reign? It's more Edward VII than Elizabeth II.

And the 'new Elizabethans' was also a clever piece of political marketing that the country had turned the corner and was enjoying a fresh start with a youthful monarch, evoking the Golden age of the first Elizabeth, etc at a time when Britain desperately needed a fresh sense of its purpose and identity as empire crumbled around it.

It's hard to see how the new King, regardless of his merits, would be able to play a similar symbolic role in refreshing or renewing the nation's identity that allows us to look back on 1952/53 as the start of a new era in British life. I could be wrong - time will tell! But increasingly our monarchs aren't terribly relevant to how public life plays out, unless the government chooses to involve them.

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It feels more like he’s the end of the ancien regime.

Notmybloodyking · 07/05/2023 18:49

Jewelanemone · 06/05/2023 20:38

No newspapers here, just observations on MN posts today 😆

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“It makes me so proud to be British”

”No one does pageantry like we do”

“A historic event watched by billions of people all over the globe”

”They pay for themselves with the tourism they attract”

Deluded.

Just my observations on MN this weekend.

Outofthepark · 07/05/2023 18:56

To be fair it's the Eurovision next week and I think more people will watch that. Now THAT will get me out waving my British flag!

dementedpixie · 07/05/2023 19:15

I'll not be watching Eurovision either!

IncyWincyGrownUp · 07/05/2023 19:17

Florenz · 07/05/2023 15:05

Oh I can understand people not watching the whole thing but I think everyone should be tuning in for the main coronation ceremony. It should be something that unites us as Britons and it's sad that so many people just want to create division and unrest.

You expect people to have not gone about their days as planned? Or you think we ought to all go seek out something after the fact?

I wasn’t going to get my phone out on a blustery North Yorkshire beach to watch a man get a new hat, nor was I going to stay up when I got home to catch up on the hat acquisition when my bed was calling me.

It really, really isn’t the big deal some people, the monarchy itself, and the government desperately want it to be. The monarchy is increasingly irrelevant, and the relative disinterest from this many people is an indicator of that.

underneaththeash · 07/05/2023 19:19

I loved it, not a massive fan of Charles, but I think the monarchy is a good thing for the UK.

Would never consider wasting time watching some random blokes kicking a ball around......

Threebeanburrito · 07/05/2023 19:26

I've got nothing against the royals (except Andrew) but essentially the coronation is a fancy long church service, and I would never choose to watch a live church service on the telly. It's not necessarily an act of rebellion or a political stance not to watch it.

Againstmachine · 07/05/2023 19:26

underneaththeash · 07/05/2023 19:19

I loved it, not a massive fan of Charles, but I think the monarchy is a good thing for the UK.

Would never consider wasting time watching some random blokes kicking a ball around......

What's good about the monarchy really.

XenoBitch · 07/05/2023 19:28

I had no interest in it, much like I have no interest in 99% of the rest of the stuff that gets broadcast live on TV.

SerafinasGoose · 07/05/2023 19:29

My only surprise is that people are not sick to the back teeth of this family's ostentatious, embarrassing pageantry. I'd have thought we'd seen (and borne the expense of) more than enough of it over the past year to satisfy even the most ardently curious.

It's hardly as though the theme, symbolism or key players vary all that much.
Now Liverpool vs. Brentford I AM sorry I missed ....

Great to read of people's weekend plans. We had a couple of lovely days walking at our beautiful local coastline, and watching a very atmospheric but beautiful sea fog disperse as the day went on. A visit to the nature reserve is in order if it pours down tomorrow, and in the meaning this evening is so lovely we might well spend it on the patio outside.

Cheers! 🍻

PinkCherryBlossoms · 07/05/2023 19:31

Florenz · 07/05/2023 15:05

Oh I can understand people not watching the whole thing but I think everyone should be tuning in for the main coronation ceremony. It should be something that unites us as Britons and it's sad that so many people just want to create division and unrest.

Don't be ridiculous. If I'm to be expected to cancel my plans and engage in something I wouldn't otherwise do, I shall expect to be paid my usual hourly rate plus weekend enhancement. And the costs of rebooking my prearranged activity obviously.