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OMG12 · 06/05/2023 14:09

Mooshamoo · 06/05/2023 10:48

I don't want him as king. I feel sick watching a bit of the coronation this morning. I just caught a bit of it and I felt ill.

We are not subjects. It's 2023.
I don't want to be like an animal with an owner
I don't like the man. He has had so many scandals and bad friends. Why should he be allowed to rule over us.
This stuff shouldn't be going on in 2023.

Anyone think the same?

No don’t feel the same at all. I thought it was an amazing show a pageantry and was very moved by the ritual. In reality, unless you let it having a monarchy will have very little impact on your life.

if you seriously feel sick as in properly feel I’ll at this show of pomp and ceremony and a religious ritual you probably need to seek help.

a normal response to something you are not a fan of is to switch off and go do something else

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Mooshamoo · 06/05/2023 14:11

OMG12 · 06/05/2023 14:09

No don’t feel the same at all. I thought it was an amazing show a pageantry and was very moved by the ritual. In reality, unless you let it having a monarchy will have very little impact on your life.

if you seriously feel sick as in properly feel I’ll at this show of pomp and ceremony and a religious ritual you probably need to seek help.

a normal response to something you are not a fan of is to switch off and go do something else

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No I don't properly feel ill.

"I feel ill" is a commonly used turn of phrase, to say that you feel disgusted at something.

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Bonkersworknonsense · 06/05/2023 14:13

I haven’t rtwt but I think a lot of people are losing sight of the fact that people do not bow/curtsy to Charles as a person, they do it to the representative of the nation.

When the queen died she was buried in a simple white robe because at that moment she stopped representing the nation and was buried as an individual.

The amount of castles they own is excessive, but the role of the monarchy I have no problem with. At least they have trained their whole lives for it and don’t gain from it. They could all decide to be private citizens right now & relax into the £££. Unlike politicians I don’t see the self interest.

Bearchair · 06/05/2023 14:13

MammaTo · 06/05/2023 13:58

I fully agree.

I can’t get my head around people that really get on board with the monarchy and see them as higher beings and above reproach.
I can see why people enjoy the pageantry of it all, but in terms of believing that Charles is our “King” and we must bow and curtsy as a mark of respect, nah it doesn’t sit right wi the me.

I dont think many do think that way though. Most are indifferent and the majority of others who dont mind the monarchy enjoy the ceremonial aspect, are interested by the history and whatever else rather than believing they are higher beings. I expect for a lot who went to watch today it was a really brilliant experience seeing the military parade, the atmosphere and I suppose in the same way as others in the media etc catching a glimpse is probably a bit exciting rather than life affirming or anything dramatic. Of course some people take it to extremes just as those who worship celebrities or whatever, but reality is there's a huge gulf between being vehemently against the RF and idolising them, most people are in the middle.

Bowing isn't as prevalent now except on formal occasions which presumably people can avoid if they don't wish to partake in it. I've met the Queen, Prince Philip and Harry and didn't have to bow or curtsey to any, this was in a professional capacity as well.

SoYoung · 06/05/2023 14:13

I agree that it's all ridiculous and horrible and I'd do away with it if I could. Don't feel so passionately that I'm ill about it though.

MedievalMadness · 06/05/2023 14:14

It was like watching a hybrid of Monty Python and a Harry Potter film. Totally bonkers with a glove, bracelets of sincerity or whatever they were and dressing someone up in layers of shirts, vests and robes. Total waste of time and money. If we could get public transport, the NHS , housing and education departments running with such precision, timing and attention to detail, we would have one of the highest standards of living of any country. There’s money and time spent organising and delivering all this claptrap, but everything else is slowly run into the ground.

Catsmere · 06/05/2023 14:14

RedFlags1 · 06/05/2023 11:26

The gold carriage was a gift from Australia in the 1988, so cost UK tax payers nothing. All the soldiers on parade...already soldiers on UK payroll
The guests - all staying in London, paying for hotels, taxis and meals, ditto the tourists. All dressed up in their new clothes bought mostly in the UK with 20% VAT on top.
All the hotels are paying wages and taxes, the people paid overtime are spending that in the UK, paying income tax on their overtime and VAT on their spending and generating profit for the people making the stuff that they are buying.
The cost of this is trivial in the national scale and is being paid back in spades.

Without the Royal Family in residence, the nation would still pay for the Royal palaces, they would still have state banquets in them etc etc

I am not a fan of the individuals, but the institution...it's part of our heritage and it does not cost much extra, most of the costs would be incurred anyway, and those that are genuinely extra - flow back to the nation anyway in taxes and extra spending which has a multiplier effect.

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No, this is the Australian State Coach. The Gold State Coach was made for George III.

Australian State Coach - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_State_Coach#/media/File:Carriage_Parents_Wedding_Prince_William_Kate_Middleton.jpg

dottiedodah · 06/05/2023 14:15

MooShamoo Well I havent watched any of it .I agree with you that it is an outdated institution ,where one man is supposed to "rule" over us in 2023! I know you dont mean you feel physically sick ,but are fed up with a ludicrous amount of money being spent on one day! I have a bad knee, and am having to go to the private physio clinic for further treatment .I have maxed out my huge sum of 2 physio Appts for the grand total of 15 mins each! We are not wealthy at all! how many others in the same boat? And those poor souls who have no choice but to carry on with NHS? Same for Dentistry and so on . I have nothing against PC as a person ,but it should be a shorter service ,and if we have the Monarchy lets have 1 castle not 4, and less jewels (QE had 100 diamond brooches for example) DM loved brooches but was pleased when I bought her an M and S one for her Bday!

3dogsandarabbit · 06/05/2023 14:16

Deadpalm - Yes so many people around the world love this. Looking at the TV coverage and the reporters talking to the crowd there are so many people who have come from other countries especially for the coronation.

Canthave2manycats · 06/05/2023 14:17

Mooshamoo · 06/05/2023 10:52

Are you usually a sheep? You never question people ruling over you?

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He's a figurehead. Get over yourself.

OMG12 · 06/05/2023 14:17

Mooshamoo · 06/05/2023 14:11

No I don't properly feel ill.

"I feel ill" is a commonly used turn of phrase, to say that you feel disgusted at something.

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So actually you just don’t like something. Just don’t watch it, simple. Such hyperbole is pointless, plenty of people love the royal family (just look on tv, how quiet the roads are). Not everyone feels the same. As I said, having a king has minimal impact on you day to day. Quite bizarre to feel “disgusted”/ill/sick. But if you want to work yourself into a state, crack on.

sst1234 · 06/05/2023 14:18

You feel sick? You can get tablets for that.

DarrellRiversCriminalBehaviourOrder · 06/05/2023 14:18

Bearchair · 06/05/2023 14:13

I dont think many do think that way though. Most are indifferent and the majority of others who dont mind the monarchy enjoy the ceremonial aspect, are interested by the history and whatever else rather than believing they are higher beings. I expect for a lot who went to watch today it was a really brilliant experience seeing the military parade, the atmosphere and I suppose in the same way as others in the media etc catching a glimpse is probably a bit exciting rather than life affirming or anything dramatic. Of course some people take it to extremes just as those who worship celebrities or whatever, but reality is there's a huge gulf between being vehemently against the RF and idolising them, most people are in the middle.

Bowing isn't as prevalent now except on formal occasions which presumably people can avoid if they don't wish to partake in it. I've met the Queen, Prince Philip and Harry and didn't have to bow or curtsey to any, this was in a professional capacity as well.

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Hardly anyone bowed or curtseyed as the King went by at the end of the ceremony. It's tradition but it's not compulsory.

FoodCentre · 06/05/2023 14:18

Why don't you do something else instead of winding yourself up on a Saturday? I nearly missed the thing, myself.

Cat3i · 06/05/2023 14:19

For those who share the OP's views, or feel similarly, you can join Republic,
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This organisation met police to discuss a planned and agreed protest but attendees were arrested this morning and placards seized.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65507435
Regardless of your views on the monarchy, I hope readers will challenge police actions that deny individuals their legitimate freedom of speech.

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Unsure33 · 06/05/2023 14:21

Mooshamoo · 06/05/2023 14:11

No I don't properly feel ill.

"I feel ill" is a commonly used turn of phrase, to say that you feel disgusted at something.

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Well I am disgusted you feel disgusted . There you go .

Fererr · 06/05/2023 14:22

Am ambivalent about a constitutional monarchy, don’t mind Charles, he’s a hard worker, promoted some worthwhile causes. This Tory government though really do make me feel sick.

inamarina · 06/05/2023 14:23

Walkaround · 06/05/2023 12:40

Well, Russia is a prime example of the fact that getting rid of a monarchy neither removes massively ostentatious and expensive public displays (even in the days of communism, they did like their massive military displays), nor scandalous behaviour and bad friends. Boris Johnson is further proof elected leaders can be corrupt, self-serving and wasteful. I do not think the expensive and disruptive process of getting rid of our monarchy would be worthwhile during a cost of living crisis - at least this expense attracts tourists and a lot of people actually enjoy it, whereas getting rid of the monarchy just reveals the country to be in even more of a shitty, troubled state than ever, as if a corrupt version of capitalism, Brexit and covid were not bad enough.

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Well, Russia is a prime example of the fact that getting rid of a monarchy neither removes massively ostentatious and expensive public displays (even in the days of communism, they did like their massive military displays)

Having lived in that part of the world I can confirm this. People were also much more “encouraged” to applaud the regime and and wave flags.
In my school, we weren’t even allowed to draw pictures of Lenin in case he ended up out looking silly 🙄 And of course, there was a portrait of him above the blackboard in each classroom.

Unsure33 · 06/05/2023 14:23

Canthave2manycats · 06/05/2023 14:17

He's a figurehead. Get over yourself.

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I think seeing this thread that perhaps the OP needs to do a bit more studying about the laws in this country and how they are formed .

SecretSwirrel · 06/05/2023 14:30

OP and this is why I didn’t watch it and went about out usual Saturday routine as usual.

Never mind Charles and Camilla. Its the Andrew effect for me tbh. He should have been made to face up to what he’s done, made an example of and charged. It makes me feel sick. They all do.

SpringIntoChaos · 06/05/2023 14:32

I suggest you think about the language you are using and check if you are literally 'feeling sick' (ie imminently going to vomit!) or in fact 'feeling sickened' (ie appalled, disgusted)! Clarity of language is everything 👍

Either way...such hyperbole OP! How does it affect you on a day to day basis, really? 🤦‍♀️

jaqual · 06/05/2023 14:33

That seems to be yhe standard now. Anyone can be corrupt and awful as they like as it does not affect ypu on a day to day basis you should stfu

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Mooshamoo · 06/05/2023 14:34

I don't think Charles wants to do it either.

From the bit I say, he looked like he didn't want to be there, and would rather be having a nap.

Charles strikes me as a man who would rather be pottering around the garden in highgrove, then being a king.

They are kind of pushed into doing it aswell aren't they.

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Male101 · 06/05/2023 14:35

Mooshamoo · 06/05/2023 14:34

I don't think Charles wants to do it either.

From the bit I say, he looked like he didn't want to be there, and would rather be having a nap.

Charles strikes me as a man who would rather be pottering around the garden in highgrove, then being a king.

They are kind of pushed into doing it aswell aren't they.

No. He isnt forced. He could of abdicated

DarrellRiversCriminalBehaviourOrder · 06/05/2023 14:35

They are kind of pushed into doing it aswell aren't they.

Yes of course. They don't choose it. And abdication isn't a simple matter either. It's seen by many as a great snub and hugely ungrateful.

If the job is so easy, how come so many of them cock it up so badly?