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I Hate "Friendship Groups"

177 replies

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 05/05/2023 14:13

Every time I read threads about these on here, I cringe at the thoughts of forced jollity, angst, oneupmanship and competitiveness, falling out, too many people compromising and jealousy and people being forced together who might have zero in common, especially when it involves doing things as groups of couples. Too like Cold Feet. Going on holiday in a "group" horrifies me and it implies "membership" that I hate the idea of. Is there anything positive?

I don't subscribe to friendship groups at all, though I do have a number of friends I do things with at times that could be classed as a group because there are more than two of us at that time, but never closely defined as that. I have:

Three close university friends that I meet together, two local, one not so much, and sometimes a friend of each of them comes out with us, sometimes not.

Another pair of friends (now one of these can be caustic at times) who I met at 19 and who were friends before I came on the scene, we meet for a meal every three or four weeks. There was another woman originally but she drifted away and we only send Christmas cards now

Three other friends I meet regularly for meals and nights out, two lived near me and the other is a friend of one of them. Another friend of another of them sometimes joins us.

Then I have other friends I know individually, and through them I've met other people. I think the only time all of these got together in one place was for my (delayed for Covid) 40th.

None of these have ever involved partners on nights out or holidays, unless it has been a specific event such as a New Year party or a birthday. We would never ever consider ourselves a "friendship group". I consider myself lucky to have escaped all the angst.

The thought of group dynamics has me running screaming for the hills.

OP posts:
happypoobum · 05/05/2023 16:18

Well as I understand it, she’s perfectly happy with her own groups of friends, but despises other people’s friendship groups.

Hope that’s clear 😂😂😂

UsingChangeofName · 05/05/2023 16:22

Spot on @ShirleyPhallus and @Thepeopleversuswork

AwaaFaeHom · 05/05/2023 16:25

TheShellBeach · 05/05/2023 16:15

I don't understood this thread.
Is the OP happy to have friends or not?

Yes.

She is happy to have more than one group of friends.

She just wouldn't want to be part of a friendship group. 🤷‍♀️.

No, it doesn't make sense. But that seems to be the jist of it.

OtherPeople1 · 05/05/2023 16:26

OP people tend to post when things go wrong. That’s why you are getting a skewed view of the negatives of a ‘friendship group’ on MN.

Most people get on with their friends; the clue is kind of in the name.

People often proclaim they prefer not having friends, as they cannot bear the idea they aren’t part of a group and they are trying to convince themselves they are just so fine with that.

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 05/05/2023 16:27

happypoobum · 05/05/2023 16:18

Well as I understand it, she’s perfectly happy with her own groups of friends, but despises other people’s friendship groups.

Hope that’s clear 😂😂😂

You don't understand it.

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ObfuscationWithMenaces · 05/05/2023 16:28

The concept of friendship groups amongst adults is just sad and sounds like some religious happy clappy crap. It's a kid thing
Adults have friends; some friends know each other, some are person A's friend, but don't know person A's other friends, some of these talk to each other independently of A. They also go out with A, but sometimes B and C may go out without A.
Why can't you just have a number of friends?

CoalCraft · 05/05/2023 16:38

Why are all your friends female?

Anyway, for what it's worth, you're basically describing my friendship group I'm terms of how everyone met

A, B and C met at primary school. C met them at 6th form college. D, E and F met the first three at uni. G joined A, B and D as a housemate, B got into a relationship with H, C got into a relationship with I, and J and K, a couple, were introduced via G. Oh, and there's also D's old school friend, L, who also occasionally tags along.

We do stuff all together, just a few at a time, in pairs, whatever. A subset even went on holiday together. It was lovely. We're very much a friendship group.

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 05/05/2023 16:41

@CoalCraft My friends aren't all female.

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5128gap · 05/05/2023 16:45

Ime they're great when they evolve naturally. I have one comprised of a group of random people which includes one of my adult children, a neice, a couple of their respective colleagues and one of my long term friends, all thrown together by chance the once, and now meet regularly to do a shared interest thing. Another group is former and current colleagues (same industry)
Where I think they may work less well, is when they're engineered; either by people bringing together friends to create a group that they can be the centre of, insisting all the 'DPs' socialise too as its convenient, or when people try to join a group because they think they should be in one. In these cases it's a group for the sake of a crowd, rather than a bunch of people who like each other.

Hellodarknessmyoldpal · 05/05/2023 16:50

OP you have listed 3 friendship groups that you're part of!

I think you may be overthinking what defines a "friendship group'.

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 05/05/2023 16:58

Hellodarknessmyoldpal · 05/05/2023 16:50

OP you have listed 3 friendship groups that you're part of!

I think you may be overthinking what defines a "friendship group'.

Maybe. I just see it as I have a circle of friends and get together with some of them in different quantities at different times.

OP posts:
Applequash · 05/05/2023 17:01

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 05/05/2023 16:58

Maybe. I just see it as I have a circle of friends and get together with some of them in different quantities at different times.

That’s a friendship group.

Issue here is you seem to have no idea what a friendship group is and have decided you don’t have them (when you do)

Applequash · 05/05/2023 17:02

Hellodarknessmyoldpal · 05/05/2023 16:50

OP you have listed 3 friendship groups that you're part of!

I think you may be overthinking what defines a "friendship group'.

Ah no you see what the OP has is a group of friends, not a friendship group Grin

Tinybrother · 05/05/2023 17:03

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 05/05/2023 16:58

Maybe. I just see it as I have a circle of friends and get together with some of them in different quantities at different times.

So like the vast majority of other people then?

Rhubarbandtoast · 05/05/2023 17:05

What is your definition of a group ?

WhatNoRaisins · 05/05/2023 17:06

It's one of those cases of you not being as different as you think you are.

LimitIsUp · 05/05/2023 17:06

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Just what precisely are you trying to say about neurodiverse people?

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 05/05/2023 17:09

LimitIsUp · 05/05/2023 17:06

Just what precisely are you trying to say about neurodiverse people?

I reported this and the poster is banned now. 🚫

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LimitIsUp · 05/05/2023 17:10

@ImJustMadAboutSaffron - That's good

UsingChangeofName · 05/05/2023 17:20

I just see it as I have a circle of friends and get together with some of them in different quantities at different times.

Can you explain to everyone what the difference is between a circle of friends and a group of friends please ? As I, for one, am confused as to what the difference might be.

LimitIsUp · 05/05/2023 17:26

Okay, I have a couple of friendship groups and I guess it hasn't been completely plain sailing. One originally numbered nine of us and has now whittled down to five. No outright falling out or shenanigans, but we became friends when our dc were at primary school and as time passed there was less to bind us together. The five of us who remain have more in common and it's easy being together. We didn't 'expel' the other 4, they just gradually drifted away of their own accord finding other friends who they must have thought were more on their wavelength.

The second friendship group consisted of six of us but is now five. One of them was difficult and moody, thank God she has gone. She was the personification of a dementor

Friendships do change and evolve and sometimes drift over the years and I suppose that this is as likely to happen in a group as it is for one to one friendships.

Justalittlebitduckling · 05/05/2023 17:43

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 05/05/2023 14:18

No, it is what springs to mind from the many many posts I have read on Mumsnet from posters having problems with friendship groups. I don't have any problems to report.

It's a discussion. It's what we do on here, isn't it?

The thing is though, the many people who enjoy being part of a friendship group with low drama and no issues aren’t going to post about it on mumsnet for advice/ to ask if they’re BU so you’re getting a very skewed view.

thaegumathteth · 05/05/2023 17:54

Omg how embarrassing to have a circle of friends. Cringey. I'll stick to my friendship group thanks.

😜

JaneyGee · 05/05/2023 17:54

I completely agree. I hate the word 'community' as well – the idea that we must socialise with our neighbours just because they happen to live nearby. I like who I like. I like individuals, not groups. I do care about good people. And when I know someone good is in pain I will do anything to help them. However, the idea of belonging to an extended friends group, of six or seven people, with all the hidden bitchiness, jealousy, undermining, fake concern/toxic advice, etc, that that would bring fills me with horror.

I mean it when I say that I don't want lots of friends (half of whom would really be frenemies). My ideal is two or three people I have tested and who I know are good. People who take pride in having five hundred 'friends' on Facebook are welcome to them. I prefer books and dogs.

TheaBrandt · 05/05/2023 17:56

It’s so funny reminds of friends of my parents who used to sneer at “tourists” on their holidays- they themselves were “travellers” 😀. Op you are in a friendship group!

Seem to agree with peoplevwork on most things!