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To think some people sail through life ?

260 replies

Cuberubick · 05/05/2023 11:54

Please don't think that this comes from a place of envy . It's something that puzzles me . The vast majority of us me included have ups and downs and life is not always fair.

But it strikes me that some people live truly wonderful lives, with no great trauma , no health issues or money woes , great kids etc. Think Richard Brandon for example . I'm not knocking him just using him as an example .

Then there are others who seems to go from one crisis to the next , and have tragedy befall them .

Like I have said for the vast majority of us it's bitter sweet .

Is it a case of mindset ? what you think is what you get ? Who knows .

OP posts:
WellTidy · 05/05/2023 13:04

Someone said to me about five years ago that I had absolutely everything anyone could ask for. Said nicely, with a hint of awe of envy.

Except that I really don’t. I live a long way from everyone in my side of the family (and kiss them dreadfully), have a child with lifelong disabilities, have very little support from my husband’s family (who live very close by) and don’t see anything like as much of my husband as most other people due to extreme working hours.

BansheeofInisherin · 05/05/2023 13:04

That's very well expressed @LadyMacbethWasMisunderstood.

Red0 · 05/05/2023 13:05

I never ever think like this, because 1. You don’t know what goes on inside someone’s head and 2. You don’t know what happens behind closed doors. All is not always as it seems!

BansheeofInisherin · 05/05/2023 13:05

Lol @WellTidy I am a dreadful kisser too! ( I know that was a typo but sorry, it made me laugh).

Hellybelly84 · 05/05/2023 13:06

I know the happiest people who have also been through some seriously tough stuff but a positive mindset has got them through it. Other people whinge on social media about the tiniest little setbacks.

You wouldn’t know from the outside some people have been through some difficult/awful things as they choose to just get on with life. I think most of us all get some difficulties at some point but its how we deal with them that counts.

user1497207191 · 05/05/2023 13:07

Naranjas · 05/05/2023 12:56

People need to stop with this “rich people have worked hard for it” nonsense. Not all of them did. Those who did, were given the lucky entry level opportunities to do so, which were denied to others. And many people work incredibly hard but aren’t lucky enough to get rich from it. Wealth and hard work are not related.

No, there may not be a direct correlation between wealth and hard work, but there is an increased likelihood of being wealthy following hard work, and an increased likelihood of being poor if you don't. Working hard doesn't just mean physically either, which is a mistake lots of people make, it's a combination of attributes and includes education, attitude, and can include "working hard" to meet more people, make contacts, etc as well as "working hard" to get more and better qualifications, or "working hard" to get more experience, etc.

Increased likelihoods either way doesn't mean work hard and you will be wealthy - it means you're more likely to be wealthy.

Sunraes · 05/05/2023 13:07

shammalammadingdong · 05/05/2023 12:14

Jesus. Rude and defensive.

That fits.

Yep.

Hotfootgoose · 05/05/2023 13:08

I get you OP. I know horrible people who have money, possessions, children and good health - even though they are vile. I also know lovely people who have had a terrible life but still help others. Sometimes I think a life with ups and downs makes you a nicer person really, as less of an a hole.

TwoCoffeesPlease · 05/05/2023 13:08

OP your example of Richard Branson is distracting and unhelpful to your actual question which is valid. People are doubling down on “you don’t know if RB has had a tough life or not” rather than the actual focus of your thread.

Why do some people sail through life and others continually struggle? I don’t know.

I would say that (so far!) I would fit into the “sailed through life” category. I am 30, engaged, home owner, decent job and have close family and friends where there isn’t drama or issues. I have experienced no significant bereavement, financial crisis or person struggle.

A dear friend of mine is the same age, unemployed for the third time in his adult life, single, in debt and crippled by anxiety. In his life he has had perpetual set backs and every time he starts to get his life together something happens that makes the wheels fall off.

The difference I can see is that I am fortunate enough to have been given many advantages and to have people who show up for me financially, emotionally and practically. I have been gifted large sums of money and had things like driving lessons paid for as a teenager.

almostoverthehill · 05/05/2023 13:08

I understand what you are trying to get and yes it seems like some people do have a good life, I know plenty! whilst others (me) everyday is a challenge

shammalammadingdong · 05/05/2023 13:09

Wealth and hard work are not related

You mean Wealth and hard work are not ALWAYS related. Wealth and hard work can be very much related.
I know plenty of people who have earned a lot without any help at all. Without family money or assistance. All by themselves.

Beginningless · 05/05/2023 13:09

user1497207191 · 05/05/2023 13:01

Sorry, but I think Karma is absolute bullshit.

Look at Olivia Newton John - literally everyone who has come across her said that she was a beautiful person inside and out, very caring, compassionate, loved animals, humble, etc. Yet she drew the short straw in life with multiple miscarriages, serious health problems when pregnant, cancer in her early 40s (diagnosed the same day she was told her father had died), a failed business, legal disputes with recording companies trying to rip her off, failed relationships, a partner disappearing (presumably drowned) on a fishing trip, Goddaughter dying of cancer aged around 4 years old, and ultimately her husband running off with her nanny. There's no way she did anything (Karma) to cause all that grief and anguish. It's nothing but random bad luck.

You don’t need to apologise, I don’t mind if you think it’s bullshit. But to respond to poor ON-J’s story (I didn’t know all that), according to the law of karma these events happened because of her actions in previous past lives. I know many people don’t believe in past live but if you do, it makes sense that the actions in those previous lives ripen as experiences in future lives. Everyone has done bad things in previous lives, these are all our current negative experiences from stubbing our toe to dying in an accident. As I said, studying the subject is different to the general social understanding of the term.

kitsuneghost · 05/05/2023 13:10

I am a bit of a sailor
I am neither rich nor poor. I just float along and have nothing really gone 'bad' for me but no major great luck either.
It isn't all roses because I feel like I am just waiting for the big crisis that seems to happen to the vast majority.
People that have lots of ups and downs all their life are probably better placed than me to deal with a crisis when they are older

WellTidy · 05/05/2023 13:11

BansheeofInisherin · 05/05/2023 13:05

Lol @WellTidy I am a dreadful kisser too! ( I know that was a typo but sorry, it made me laugh).

Just noticed this! Ha ha. And mwah!

OMGitsnotgood · 05/05/2023 13:11

There are so many reasons, you can't generalise. Some people get lucky, many make their own luck, some people overcome real adversity to become successful, some don't even try.

To people who know me now, they'd say i'd sailed through life but they don't know about the hardships i've faced along the way because i just got on and dealt with it and don't talk about it.

MovieQueen12 · 05/05/2023 13:11

I wouldn't call Lauren Conrad lucky. She is beautiful of course and has a husband, kids, good career. But has been screwed over by a lot of her friends.

willWillSmithsmith · 05/05/2023 13:12

I don’t think I’ve really met anyone who has sailed through life. I know there are probably some, maybe Elon Musk but I know zilch about his personal history other than his mother seems rich and some kind of socialite (I think?). The Beckham kids? They can’t have much to worry about that would give them sleepless nights but they’re young.

BlurredVision · 05/05/2023 13:12

No, we all struggle. As a manager I see two types of people in work - people who struggle with everything, make a big deal out of everything, always have a challenge to complain about and frequently get in their own way. Then others who just get on with things, have a good mindset, don't let themselves get stuck, are positive and forward looking. Often the strugglers think they have it hardest but as I have the end to end view I know they often have easier challenges and just make it harder for themselves. I think the same is true in life, there's a saying if everyone put their hardships out on the table for all to see, we'd all pick up our own to take home.

MovieQueen12 · 05/05/2023 13:14

I must have been an absolute cu next Tuesday in a past life then if that's true @Beginningless

Barnbrack · 05/05/2023 13:15

Naranjas · 05/05/2023 12:56

People need to stop with this “rich people have worked hard for it” nonsense. Not all of them did. Those who did, were given the lucky entry level opportunities to do so, which were denied to others. And many people work incredibly hard but aren’t lucky enough to get rich from it. Wealth and hard work are not related.

Yep, ive been sad while very poor and sad while well off. I know which I'd choose. Literally everything is easier when you have a little money to throw at it.

My child has lost of hospital visits, is often I'll, it's very stressful. It'd be a lot worse if I had to choose between hospital visits and pasta.

I lost my mum a few years ago, it was awful, it would have been a lot worse if I didn't earn enough to travel back and forth to see her in a different country while still attending my job.

Fertility issues, eased by attendance to a private doctor for tests and a treatment plan, 2 beautiful children.

The list goes on.

Even the petty stuff, heartbreak is easier if you can afford a takeaway and good ice cream and night out.

Hellybelly84 · 05/05/2023 13:16

Bathintheshed · 05/05/2023 12:39

You are seeing everyone else's lives through rose tinted glasses. Most do not overshare personal traumas, I look like I've sailed through life I'm sure. The reality is I've had more drama in my life than Eastenders.

Exactly-we seem to live in a world now where people share every tiny problem on social media. Those of us that just post a few happy photos here and there musn’t have any difficulties ofcourse.

The phrase that springs to mind with this post is ‘you really dont know whats going on behind closed doors’ and thankfully most people keep their personal difficulties between themselves and close family/friends.

OutsideLookingOut · 05/05/2023 13:17

Beginningless · 05/05/2023 13:09

You don’t need to apologise, I don’t mind if you think it’s bullshit. But to respond to poor ON-J’s story (I didn’t know all that), according to the law of karma these events happened because of her actions in previous past lives. I know many people don’t believe in past live but if you do, it makes sense that the actions in those previous lives ripen as experiences in future lives. Everyone has done bad things in previous lives, these are all our current negative experiences from stubbing our toe to dying in an accident. As I said, studying the subject is different to the general social understanding of the term.

Feels like a problematic way of justifying why bad things happen to people - you deserve it because of what you did in a past life.

life is unfair - it doesn’t mean we should just sit an accept it if there is another option. Let’s make things better when we can and acknowledge it when we can’t.

Exhausteddog · 05/05/2023 13:17

I've often thought the opposite - that I know some people and read about others and wonder how they can carry on after being dealt such a shit hand in life.
I see some people who seem to have a pretty easy life but I don't know everything about their life

RedToothBrush · 05/05/2023 13:18

Cuberubick · 05/05/2023 12:18

Ok so it seems I've made a mistake using RB as an example . Mistake , because This is all this thread is going to be about .

Well if you are going to make a thread and use an example you could start by at least knowing how to spell their name and know something about them rather than spout a lot of shit.

A good argument requires a basic level of general knowledge!

Oh dear. Oh well OP you've successfully given me a good giggle. Richard Brandon is clearly a very lucky bloke whoever he is.

Beginningless · 05/05/2023 13:18

MovieQueen12 · 05/05/2023 13:14

I must have been an absolute cu next Tuesday in a past life then if that's true @Beginningless

Me too @MovieQueen12

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