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AIBU to “cancel” my friend coming to help post birth?

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AwkwardArmadillo · 04/05/2023 00:13

I’m 33 weeks pregnant, likely to give birth via c section around 34-36wk (most likely 35) due to a combo of medical reasons which I won’t get fully into, but rather than a standard c-section, it’ll be an up and down cut (open laparotomy) potentially including a hysterectomy and other procedures.

Recovery is going to be tough and potentially include a substantial hospital stay for me. I hoped to get further along than 35ish weeks but for various reasons including a decline in my health, it won’t be possible.

this is my first and (obviously) likely only child.

I have a friend who lives a substantial distance away (flight needed).
While I do have strong local support, my friend offered to come to stay to help me with recovery and the new baby.

Around 16/17 weeks I was considering it and said I’d let her know. We remained in regular contact, but unfortunately, this clearly sounded like a “yes” to her and it became clear she assumed that’s what I meant. I have repeatedly said “we’ll see, and I’m not sure it’s a good idea” but she seems to want to argue it with me and I’ve not had the strength.

this pregnancy has been brutal, if I’m honest, with over 20 hospital admissions and multiple late nights at A+E plus a fair share of mental health struggles, I should’ve been more direct but I did express my concerns to her. I do admit my fault for not putting my foot down. There are many reasons I’ve turned off of the idea, and I’ll include her rebuttals. example:

friend has a 7yr old child. Obviously, the child would come with her. I don’t necessarily feel comfortable hosting a boisterous child, especially while dealing with a potentially difficult recovery road.

friend says “We’d have our own space, we’ll stay out of your way when you need a breather.” (I have a spare room).

I did also say there may be things related to my recovery that are messy, difficult, uncomfortable and she may not want her DC present to witness it. It’ll also be a nightmare for her DC if I have an extended stay in hospital IMHO.
friend says “If needed, DC can be left with a sitter.” But I know the expense for that would be mine to bear (explained further below).

friend has a low income, meaning I will be left footing the bill for her flights, travel, etc.

She knows I can technically afford it, but I’m trying really hard to save money/not touch savings because I’m taking substantial time off of work (and I’m self employed so mat pay etc is limited).
when I mention cost is an issue, suddenly she offers to pay half or “try to get a credit card” (for various reasons I doubt that would work).

I had a scare a few days ago (light bleeding, monitoring session in hospital), now she’s more insistent than ever, to the point where she’s disregarding that I don’t have time to accommodate her, settle her + her child in, travel several hours each way to do airport pick up, etc.

I know she can sense my hesitancy because recently all she wants to talk about is how “difficult” things are at home (she’s in her 30s but lives with her family, whereas I live alone) and how she “can’t wait for a break”. She’s also mentioned how “excited” her DS is to come. It’s becoming very clear to me that it’s less about helping me and more about helping herself, but I don’t see a way of navigating out of this while retaining our previously very lovely friendship of several years.

aibu to cancel this? And WIBU to ask MN for some advice as to how to go about it? I’ve been running around like a blue arsed fly putting my business into rest mode, so to speak, and making sure everything is ready for the baby. But I need to address this soon. Help?

OP posts:
Nanaof1 · 07/05/2023 21:44

SaponificationQueen · 07/05/2023 04:17

“Wow! If they ever decide to add CF to the dictionary, there are going to be many people vying for the spot where the image goes in it.

Happy to hear you are doing so well. Thankfully, you had real help and not the kind of "help" your NVDS offered. Can we also assume that your Dane is doing well

@Nanaof1 Thanks for asking after my Dane. Yes, he is fine. I’ve never seen him pass the plastic container, but he doesn’t have a blockage, so he must have. You know, she never even bothered to find out how he was either. 🙄

Color me shocked and surprised. Not!

Thank you for the update on you, and your pup!

SaponificationQueen · 08/05/2023 07:09

@Nanaof1 What does NVDS stand for? The DS I get, the NV has got me stumped.

weirdoboelady · 08/05/2023 09:00

not very dear spouse?

AwkwardArmadillo · 08/05/2023 12:52

Friend hasn’t really stopped totally yet. We’ve not had a proper conversation since the phone call yet on Sunday, I had 3 random Amazon parcels arrive (with my name on), amongst other things I’d actually ordered for myself.

Of course I opened them thinking they were mine, only to discover pillows, blankets, water bottles (refillable kind) and a child’s sleeping bag/cozy comforter thing. I reboxed all of it and left it sealed in plastic once I realised they weren’t mine.

I asked “friend” if she had sent them and she said “Oh, I’m so sorry. They were ordered last week, before I’d known you’d changed your mind. Are you sure?” I said I was sure, but on looking at the invoice it seems they were ordered a day after I told her 🫤

I offered to facilitate a return for the items and she hasn’t responded. No idea what she’s doing but I hope she’s not thinking of just turning up, which won’t work, I’m barely home right now and spending a lot of time with family, and I’ve been having gallbladder attacks so mostly have my mother buzzing around anyway (when I am home).

OP posts:
CuriousMama · 08/05/2023 12:55

Omg she's mad! You should fall out with her she's no friend.

weirdoboelady · 08/05/2023 12:56

CFery of the highest kind! Tell your 'friend' that you will be returning the items to Amazon as a mistaken order unless she actively cancels them from her end.

OnedayIwillfeelfree · 08/05/2023 13:06

How manipulative .Send her a text -

You ordered the items after I had asked you not to come , it says so on the invoice. Please DO NOT come to visit/stay. You are not welcome here.

It will mean you lose a ‘friend’ but do you really want her as a friend. You have to be brutal.

Clymene · 08/05/2023 13:09

Bloody hell, that's really quite disturbing

Thesharkradar · 08/05/2023 13:12

OMG😲
That's quite scary she's trying to strong arm you into doing what she wants you to do when you're pregnant and vulnerable, she's planning to move in with you and take over completely while you're incapacitated.
You had that conversation with her and in order to punish you for not obeying her she ordered a load of stuff and had it delivered to your place.

LookItsMeAgain · 08/05/2023 13:15

You do realise that by sending these items directly to your home, she is still planning on coming?

I'd send her one final message saying "Friend, I am not going to be able to host you or your son. Receiving these parcels is distressing as it's clear you're not listening to me. Please arrange for them to be collected by Amazon as soon as possible. I do not appreciate you taking the liberties of having your parcels delivered to my address. I will state this clearly for the last time, you cannot come to stay. I will be in touch with you after the birth."

She is really trampling over your boundaries if the invoice said that the order was placed after you told her you couldn't host her.

Hope you begin to feel better soon.

billy1966 · 08/05/2023 13:17

Her visit was never about you.

She is now attempting to bully you.

I would really advise that you text her to not contact you again.

The reason being, she sounds capable of turning up at your door and I think you need proof that she is harassing you if she does.

She is NOT your friend.

She is someone who thought she could move in with you by stealth.

You would have found it very difficult to get her out with her child.

Take this seriously and be proactive.

Text her clearly "your contact is making me feel uncomfortable and harrassed, do not contact me again nor come near my home".

DelurkingLawyer · 08/05/2023 13:17

That’s deranged. Time for a text:

“According to the invoice these items were ordered after I told you that you were not coming to visit after the baby’s born. This is manipulative and suggests you have not got the message. I repeat: you are not welcome and if you show up my mother, who will be staying with me, will not let you in. Do not contact me again.”

(I think it’s helpful to refer to your mother, whether or not it’s true, as she might be less likely to show up if she thinks you have reinforcements)

CabernetSauvignon · 08/05/2023 13:19

Tell your friend to arrange a courier to collect the Amazon stuff by, say, Wednesday morning, failing which you will send it all back to Amazon.

imnotsadyouresad · 08/05/2023 13:22

billy1966 · 08/05/2023 13:17

Her visit was never about you.

She is now attempting to bully you.

I would really advise that you text her to not contact you again.

The reason being, she sounds capable of turning up at your door and I think you need proof that she is harassing you if she does.

She is NOT your friend.

She is someone who thought she could move in with you by stealth.

You would have found it very difficult to get her out with her child.

Take this seriously and be proactive.

Text her clearly "your contact is making me feel uncomfortable and harrassed, do not contact me again nor come near my home".

This. It's time to stop trying to save the 'friendship' and to cut her off.

GG1986 · 08/05/2023 13:28

Wow she is crazy!! Box it all up and return it to amazon and tell her you have done this. I feel like she is just going to turn up on your doorstep and expect to be let in. Maybe it's time to let your mum deal with her and tell her if she turns up she won't be let in the house. I don't think this trip is about helping you out at all, she is clearly trying to escape her home situation and expecting to live rent free with you.

raincamepouringdown · 08/05/2023 13:32

She's clearly still planning to come and move in with you.

Tell her you will be reaching out to the police for advice if she doesn't immediately arrange for the parcels that she clearly ordered AFTER you told her she couldn't come to be collected as you're concerned she's attempting to bully her way into your home.

ButtonMoonLoon · 08/05/2023 13:32

A true friend would listen and respect your feelings and wishes.
This person is actually making a daunting time more stressful and unsettling for you which is very unkind.
I wonder if it might be time for a third party- (your Mum maybe?) to send her a message asking her to stop.

lemonchiffonpie · 08/05/2023 13:34

Gosh, that's chilling. "Are you sure?" What a ghastly woman.

No need to be polite. Gloves are off, now, I think.

Muppetshair · 08/05/2023 13:34

Will she have already booked flights and expect reimbursement later?

When was she planning to arrive?

Why would she order stuff to your address so early?

I think for your own MH and emotional protection at a very difficult time for you - you need to close this off hard and involve others to do so. You do not have capacity in your life to be redirecting finite time, emotional energy and headspace to this character. You don’t need this hanging over you.

ifIwerenotanandroid · 08/05/2023 13:38

I asked “friend” if she had sent them and she said “Oh, I’m so sorry. They were ordered last week, before I’d known you’d changed your mind. Are you sure?” I said I was sure, but on looking at the invoice it seems they were ordered a day after I told her 🫤

Bit of a cheek to say you'd changed your mind, as you'd been trying to put her off before that, hadn't you?

What did she mean by 'are you sure'? Sure you don't want her to come?

PinkCast · 08/05/2023 13:39

Oh@AwkwardArmadillo you poor thing! You're going through enough with a tough pregnancy, you don't need this.
Send her a message saying you'll return the packages to amazon, and she should re-order.

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 08/05/2023 13:39

LookItsMeAgain · 08/05/2023 13:15

You do realise that by sending these items directly to your home, she is still planning on coming?

I'd send her one final message saying "Friend, I am not going to be able to host you or your son. Receiving these parcels is distressing as it's clear you're not listening to me. Please arrange for them to be collected by Amazon as soon as possible. I do not appreciate you taking the liberties of having your parcels delivered to my address. I will state this clearly for the last time, you cannot come to stay. I will be in touch with you after the birth."

She is really trampling over your boundaries if the invoice said that the order was placed after you told her you couldn't host her.

Hope you begin to feel better soon.

TBF I don't think I agree with you.

I think she's done it to try and guilt OP into letting her stay. She's trying to 'show' OP how prepared she was and the lengths she had gone to so OP feels worse for 'cancelling so last minute' in the hopes she'll turn around and tell them to come anyways.

sonjadog · 08/05/2023 13:44

Box it and return it and tell her so.

trampoline123 · 08/05/2023 13:52

You've had a really tough time, wishing you all the best for the birth and recovery.

This definitely needs a firm and clear no. It sounds like literally anything could happen, you won't know when you'll be home, what head space you'll be in etc and you really don't need any more pressure. It's really likely the baby might stay in NICU up until due date anyway so hopefully that will give you enough post surgery recovery.

I'd imagine she's being persistent as she's a mother and knows you probably wouldn't ask for help if you needed it.

Good luck with it all but definitely a clear no message needed ASAP to get the worry off of the back of your mind.

Good luck with it all x

FlamingMadKatie · 08/05/2023 13:53

I'd give her 24 hours to confirm Amazon are collecting then I'd get your mum to take it to the nearest charity shop. I'm damned if I'd go to the trouble of arranging the return myself.

It's so clear she spotted an opportunity to move in, using your fragile situation as a rather thin excuse, and she still thinks you'll weaken.

Glad your mum's around.

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