To think if you don't like my dogs barking at you get the hell off my drive

[Qantaqa]

I'll start this by saying I am tired and miserable so am in no mood to be reasonable today AT ALL.

I have many dogs. Large dogs. There are dog flaps so they can run in and out as they wish onto the property. I am rural and one of the purposes of the dogs is to alert me to people around, so I aren't bothered by them barking if someone comes to the gate.

The gateway to my drive is set back about 15ft so that I can park the car without having to open the gates and drive in. Its clearly my driveway and separate from the road.

There is this one cyclist who every single time after cycling up the hill stops and pulls into the drive and has a rest. Now he could stop on the other side of the road where there is a public track, or he could cycle for like another 30ft and stop at the entrance to the forest but no he chills in the drive. Every. Single. Time.

The dogs bark at him. He shouts at them to be quite. They obviously ignore him. I used to shout them back in but the last few weeks I haven't bothered because well I'm grumpy.

Today my mum has arrived to visit and the cyclist is yet again in the drive. He's had a bit of a go at her. She's come in mithering at me so I've gone out and told him very rudely that if he doesn't like them barking at him to stop standing on the fucking drive. It got into a bit of a heated discussion before I stormed off. He's going to report me apparently as they are intimidating and its illegal to have a camera and no signs and blah blah blah.

So whilst I might BU to have gone out and created more drama instead of ignoring him AIBU to think if you don't want to be barked at get the fuck off my land?

Are you in Scotland @Qantaqa ?
It's just your use of the word mithering is a very Scottish expression .

But on a serious note , the laws of Trespass are different .

I’m sorry. He leans on the car?
He leans on the fucking car!?

for that reason alone I’d refashion his bicycle into a fucking bow tie, wrap it around his neck and Chuck him back down the sodding hill with the dogs hot on his Lycra clad tail.

Complete lack of respect for you and your property. Wanker.

Also, I’m midlands and mithering is widely used here.

He was trying to harrass and intimidate your mother on YOUR private property. Report HIM. Obnoxious MAMIL.

This is a smart use of police time. No fuss, no expectation of cops achieving the impossible, but a 'safety log' for OP to refer to if cyclist's entitlement & aggression escalates.

'well not everyone wants a dog that looks 'cute'. Some people want a dog that looks majestic/beautiful, is super intelligent/super loyal and full of character.'

Hmm. I'm all for majestic and beautiful but every alsation I've seen tends to be straining at the lead, or worse running around out of control off the lead whilst barking in a really intimidating way. I've never seen any display intelligence like say with a gundog.

@Inthesamesinkingboat has it spot on.

😂Have you not understood that the dogs are never loose on the drive?

Also, I imagine that OP, like most rural folk with a plot of land, has an external postbox situated at the end of her drive. No need for postie to trek up it, so no wound-up dogs.

He clearly hasn't grasped that your pull-in is in fact your private parking space on your private property; he's mistaken it for some kind of public layby. It's a distinction rural people recognise and city people often don't.

Having lived in exactly your situation with the identical arrangement, we had the same problem only worse; our long winding narrow country road had no laybys so random strangers would pull in to our drive; either to toss out their picnic rubbish including "disposable" nappies into our garden, or , men only, piss on our gate. Which was always closed to keep our dogs secure.

One of our dogs was particularly territorial. So if we saw anyone pull in and come to piss on the gate we'd let out the hound of the baskervilles; carefully timed midstream...usually this resulted in the guy pissing down his own leg.
Bank holidays were particularly bad for gate pissers. My little boys used to save any old eggs laid-out by the hens, hide behind the hedge and lob the (stinking) eggs on the parked cars of pissers and dumpers.

Why the hell were people urinating on your gate??

Its bad enough dogs pissing on lampposts, but people are at it too!? Gross.

Does he have an explanation as to why he rests on your car and property? Sounds like he's looking for drama.

You're in big dog heaven there

It’s an Irish expression too. My parents used it and I seem to have picked it up aswel.
But I’m off subject now.

What's this got to do with training?
They are GSD's whose JOB is to protect OP's remote property, & her. They are literally bred for it.

It's unlikely that OP, who owns a whole pack of them, lacks the experience to train them to STFU once she invites workmen, or anyone welcome, into her property.

And postmen get barked at by everybody's dog - it makes no difference at all whether that is from behind a town house door or a rural gate.

I know you shouldn’t have to but I’d get a private driveway sign. We have one as we are near a park and people parked in it and argued the toss when I politely said can you move you are in my private drive.

They probably also don't hang around on the drive having a drink, taking the air and waiting to pick a fight.
😂😂😂

Sounds like my kinda bank holiday monday!
Fancy meeting on a rural drive for a Awkward Squad get-together?
OP - you & your dogs won't mind if @SlipSlidinAway conduct a social outside your gaff, right?
Also ... I do hope your thread has cheered you right up out of the tired & miserables - YABU.

I don’t like dogs, at all. Don’t like owners who let them roam freely in public areas (even though your garden isn’t public). So very much pro any dog control.

And even if think you’ve done absolutely nothing wrong. He’s an arse. Keep letting your dogs out.

@Janiie - not sure where you live that you're seeing so many GSDs. I only see them occasionally and spend time in various parts of the country. But as you suggested in your earlier post, bad behaviour is almost always down to the owner not the dog.
GSDs are renowned for their intelligence and trainability - it's why the police use them.

We have completely different experiences of GSDs. I've owned them and have known a number of police GSDs. Your experience has been different. Fair enough.

Well, as I said we have alsations out the back across a field and they make a racket constantly. Fine alert owners to visitors but then you train them to stfu you see. Or, most dog owners would.

Sign up —-Private property. Trespassers are on camera and will be reported to police. Put it at the margin where your driveway meets public land.

Then you've only seen working breed dogs unfortunately owned by pet-mindset humans. If you'd ever seen a GSD doing their actual jobs, I'm sure you'd respect the breed's skillset in the same way as you respect gundogs' skills.

btw, I've owned/worked both types. One is not superior to the other, just different, & dogs can't be blamed for the fuckwittery of humans who aren't up to the job of owning them.

'Trespassers are on camera and will be reported to police'

It's a civil matter. Police will not care that a cyclist stops at the end of the drive. Yes if he brought a tent and camped there and became threatening they would of course assist, but a stop on the way up a hill? No chance.

Hmm. I'm all for majestic and beautiful but every alsation I've seen tends to be straining at the lead, or worse running around out of control off the lead whilst barking in a really intimidating way. I've never seen any display intelligence like say with a gundog.*

You may have noticed that the police use German Shepherds because they are so highly intelligent and trainable.

They used to be used as guide dogs too.

YADNBU, OP.

Your dogs are gorgeous. And I say that as a dedicated cat person.

Next time he's out there, just go and ask him why he's unable to manage the whole hill in one go. Tell him your 70 year old uncle can manage the entire thing without stopping and you're surprised he can't and continues to need to rest on your driveway. Ask if he's considered getting an electric bike, since he seems to be struggling.

Non-confrontational but may just give him the motivation to make it a bit further up the hill next time.