Do you think that women are really cruel?

[Mooshamoo]

I just think that every stage of my life has been destroyed by women.

As a child, it was the adult women that were around me that were the cruellest.

School, the girls were so cruel. I got on with the boys.
college, the same
work, the same.

I just started a new job (remote)and we have been in training for two months. As there is a lot of training.

The way the job works is that we have four managers while we are training. They all do shifts as managers with us. Then when we complete training , we are assigned one full time managers.

During the training, the two female managers only messaged me and called me to tell me what I was doing wrong. They kept telling me I was doing things wrong. They were nasty and cruel to me. The two male managers were different, they were really supportive of me, as I had just started in the job. They said to ask them any questions etc.

When I finished training, I prayed that I would get one of the male managers, which I did. He is very nice and supportive.

Now, a month into the job, we have been told that we will all be assigned a quality coach. Which will be one of three people. The quality coaches are two men and a woman. I've dealt with the two men before and they are lovely, supportive and kind. The woman is a bully and just enjoys having power over people.

Again I prayed to get one of the men, but I got the woman this time. She has been making my life a misery. She is supposed to be supportive and helpful to me, but she has been really abusive to me and she is awful. She enjoys knocking people down. One of my. Other team mates also has her, and also says that she is abusing her really badly. Like as quality coach her job is meant to be supporting and helping you. But she just tells you that you are shit and useless.

My other team mates that have the male quality coaches, say that they are so kind and supportive to them , and are really helpful.

I just wonder, what is this? Why do women always seem to enjoy knocking people down and being cruel?

I've been on Reddit a bit, but it always seems really friendly! Maybe I haven't been to the equivalent sections. I tend to use it if I'm looking something up.

You saw two therapists who unfortunately were not good, you should not write off thousands of others. I had CBT once and the therapist changed my life, I started living again. I paid privately for another therapist and all I did was talk and she listened, not helpful at all as I needed insight, she gave nothing.

The right therapist for you can help but it is finding the right person.

Therapy is too expensive for me at the moment anyway. They are charging about 70 euro an hour near me. I'm not entitled to free sessions. Ireland.

Unfortunately society is too quick to portray women as vulnerable little flowers. Some women take advantage of this. One only needs to skim through some of the horrible, passive aggressive replies in this thread to see how unpleasant women can be. Rather than accepting the fact that women can be very cruel & are not indeed the "fairer sex" some women would rather undermine & discredit, demonstrating a complete lack of empathy & a gaslighting cruelty.

Of course, it's wrong to generalise, people are people, all individuals. However, society allows women to get away with behaviour that, were it displayed by men, would lead to condemnation & demonisation. The fact that a woman has raised this question, rather than leading to constructive debate, has led to many to portray themselves as reasonable & helpful whilst actually responding aggressively & very unelpfully. These women are behaving tribaly. They aren't willing to accept criticism of their gender, they would perhaps be quick to generalise about men whilst responding indignantly to generalisations about women. There in lies the problem. Both men & women can be unreasonable, however, society is less tolerant of men displaying this quality than of women.

It sounds like you're in a horrible situation & I doubt you've found this thread to be particularly helpful. Rather than offering support & balanced advice, many of the replies will have at best been unhelpful, some will have actually had a negative effect. Only serving to further entrrench your opinion.

I work in a fairly male dominated job and I've met lots and lots of women the op is describing
Some are dreadful and pull others down.i would say out of all the women I've worked with, the majority ( not all) are indeed like this. Could be the environment we are in job wise. I've met a handful of male snakes but more men, on the whole have been supportive.

No I haven't. I've always found there are nice people and dickheads of both sexes.

If anything I've found people are more tolerant of poor behaviour in males than females, starting from childhood and continuing throughout adulthood.

I've seen more men being vile on Facebook and twitter than women..I guess people must be turning a blind eye to it when it's carried out by men on social media. When it's done by women they notice as it fits their prejudices.

This is a zombie thread, and I doubt the OP will come back to it now. Probably better for her mental wellbeing if she doesn’t.

I will say that my experience of other women doesn’t match the OP’s, I’ve mostly found women to be supportive during my lifetime and I have very good female friends. (Apart from the girls’ school I went to where I was bullied.)

Zombie thread @Rondomon

I agree in some ways OP.
I've had some really nasty women bosses, 'friends', neighbours and even strangers. Also had MIL problems, she's such a difficult person. My FIL was absolutely lovely.

I prefer when I had male bosses. I get on better with men. I enjoy chatting with my male friends, for me it's more relaxing company.
I know it's not all women, I get on with plenty and have some female close friends.
I just can't abide the whispering, bitchiness and cliques that seem to happen, and I try to avoid it.

I haven't read your previous threads.
It sounds like you need to inform HR as the woman at work is bullying you (and others).

Some people are shit, men and women.
Some people are nice, men and women.

It’s not fair on the women in your life OP or those that come across you at work. You should consider how your unhealthy approach to women makes their life harder. Would anyone here want to be OP’s manager?

This is so true. It’s important to watch your back with people like OP. They destroy people with their accusations and by projecting their problems onto others.

I think both men and women can be cruel. I had an extremely cruel and manipulative male boss; and no, he wasn't especially misogynist; he was cruel to some male subordinates as well. On the other hand, I have had lovely bosses and colleagues of both sexes.

OP. Do you think that you might , subconsciously, respond differently to men and women?

I'm just wondering whether, subconsciously , you might be projecting different sides of your personality ( which we all have) depending on who you're working/responding with.