To be annoyed at other sites discussing mumsnet users?

[partlyportly]

I've noticed that some Mumsnet posts and discussions are being shared on other websites, forums, and social media platforms without the author's consent. I find this really frustrating and wonder if IABU in feeling this way.

I understand that Mumsnet is a public forum, and anyone can read and participate in discussions. But when our posts are taken out of context and shared elsewhere, it feels like a violation of our privacy and a breach of trust. It's especially frustrating when people on other sites start making assumptions or passing judgment based on a single post they've seen, without knowing the full story.

I'm not saying that Mumsnet discussions should be kept completely private, but I do think that we should have some control over where our posts end up. It would be helpful if we could have an option to mark our posts as "private" or "not for sharing," so that we know that they won't be legally copied and pasted elsewhere without our permission.

I'm curious to know if other Mumsnet members feel the same way. Does it bother you when Mumsnet posts are shared on other sites?

YABU = It's the internet, deal with it
YANBU = It's poor form, I don't like it

As soon as you make an account and use it to put information on the internet you’ve lost privacy.

Here's the truth: Mumsnet and Tattle and Reddit are all media companies that earn their money through advertising. To get the maximum revenue they need as many eyeballs on their page as possible. Users are simply pawns in their business model that ensure enough content is being generated to keep traffic above a certain level.

MN do not give a flying fuck whether one individual user's picture has been posted on a different forum. Cross platform moderation does not exist as a concept or service because it doesn't bring anyone additional revenue. The same applies to things like having a video lifted from Facebook and reposted on Youtube, or something taken from Tiktok and uploaded onto Instagram. The terms and conditions of those websites wash their hands of all responsibility.

There is an implicit understanding between all media platforms that whereas they are theoretically rivals, any cross promotion only works out beneficially for everyone involved. This almost certainly includes the DM as well, which provides a steady stream of free traffic. Taking out an ad in the DM will run into tens of thousands of pounds but MN are getting regular exposure for free in exchange for allowing them to cherrypick stories from here. There have absolutely no incentive to shut down or chase third party websites for copyright infringement.

Every single post on Mumsnet has a Share function that you can use to share it on your own messaging and social media platforms.

I’m not on Tattle but have just googled ‘Tattle Mumsnet’ and have just seen a looooooong Tattle about Mumsnetters.

It seems like it’s a two way hatred, as I can see threads about Tattle on MN as well.

But on balance it does read as if Tattle users are obsessing about MN and Mumsnetters.

Tattlers are not "obsessing about MN and Mumsnetters". There is one slow-moving thread about MN in the Off-topic section.

Were you not around when Mumsnet announced the official collaboration? For a while there was a "best of" Mumsnet threads thing in the DM.

I’ve read the comments and a lot are ‘I’m so glad I left MN’. It’s all a bit odd and yes, obsessive imv.

And the award for completing missing the point goes to…. 😂

What point did I miss?

You put a picture of yourself on the internet = you give up right to privacy over that picture.

Really you should just feel sorry for people like that op. Imagine being so sad and unhappy with your life that you spend your spare time looking through chat forums with the specific intention of bitching about complete strangers rather that just looking for chats that interest you.
I think people who behave like that are probably very insecure and unhappy and are to be pitied.
<hope the saddos see this>

Just because it's copyright doesn't mean that other people can't discuss the contents and quote bits.

The new Richard Osman book is definitely copyright. If I copied and pasted a chapter of it on MN it would be taken down in seconds. But I could give a blow by blow précis in my own words, and then discuss its merits by quoting short paragraphs of the text, and there's sod all his publishers could do about it even if they wanted to.

Copyright is a funny old thing. Fair use is allowed but there's no definition of what this means.

You could quote a few lines from the Richard Osman book if you credited it. You couldn't reproduce the whole thing.

Yabu but I do understand what you mean it irks me when stories are shared on platforms like fb through newspaper articles that could easily out the OP from someone not specifically following this forum.

The OP isn't complaining about copyright violation. She is complaining because another social media site is talking about photographs she put up of herself.

Hi there - this isn't true. News outlets can reproduce copy from sites like Mumsnet under fair use, which is very difficult to challenge. We don't feed stories to anyone and nor do we take payment.

I once got deleted for copying and pasting an entire article from The Times on a MN thread. I accepted my deletion with good grace 🤣

@partlyportly if you're referring to news outlets, then as we said above, it's considered fair use and an exception to copyright law. If an OP wants their thread removed because it's been shared then we'll always do this and take other steps to protect their privacy where possible. Mumsnet is an open site and while this does bring many benefits, including a wide range of opinions, the wisdom of a crowd and lots of new faces (with aforementioned opinions), of course there are some downsides too.

When it comes to other forums sharing and discussing MN posts, we do appreciate that it is a frustrating situation, and we wholeheartedly agree and wish that we could do more - especially when it's leaving our users upset and, rightfully, angry, but unfortunately it is just a cross we have to bear if we're to keep the site open and easily accessible for our users, and that is something we think is important.

If MN has shared you post on our social page (nb we don't consider all threads suitable for sharing) and you want it taken down, we will do this.

More information on our Terms of Use can be found here.

I’m sorry that happened to you. It’s exactly what I’d expect from Tattle.

Hi fives @SoupDragon

Anything you say /write on a public forum /internet can be read /printed /nap shot and passed on

To be fair, apart from criticising people's outfits, they seem a lot less vicious on Tattle. 🙈 There isn't as much sniping and pulling other posters apart that I can see.
Some parts of MN are nicer than others, but AIBU for example can be brutal! They don't seem to get digs in at each other for no reason over there (that said I'm not a member and have only seen the MN thread and a handful of others).

They are fairly vicious about MN. plus I don't think they are allowed to disagree with each other on Tattle, It's quite heavily moderated and arguing on threads is not allowed.

Mumsnet shares threads for discussion on their Facebook page.

Well thanks to your thread OP which I am still trying to get my head around the fact that if you post on the Internet,don't expect privacy, you thread lead me to having a gander and finding the thread in question.

I mean obviously it wasn't hard from the info you gave but considering you've been talking about private threads,you've more than likely drawn a lot of attention to it over there

Bloody spelling mistakes,but you know what I mean