Those of you who voted for Brexit when is it going to get better and how?

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I didn’t and didn’t see any benefits. Tried to refocus anger about the lies during the campaign to resignation and acceptance. Was ready to try and embrace/ focus on positives and move forward but still really can’t see any. Now just getting increasingly worried and also fearful.

Hit me with all the benefits and when we’re going to see them impacting our lives.

Err we left 3 years ago, just before Covid.

Not 2 years and certainly not "mid covid"

Marginally, this is true, though there is very little in it.... they also earn a lot more on avg & their overall inflation is way lower at 7.4%

How about inflation in France? 5.4% or Spain? 3.3% or even Italy? 8.7% - all comparable economies before you come out with Hungary, even Holland has dropped to below 4%.

UK has inflation of 10.1% and shows little sign of dropping, why? uncontrolled energy costs, corporate greed & of course Brexit.

Certainly not our rather pathetic public/private sector wage growth, which is all you lot can come out with.

Howpo
Err we left 3 years ago, just before Covid

We had a transition year which is why I posted 'properly' - we left the single market on 31 December 2020.

I think information takes longer to penetrate a Brexiteers brain. Remember a lot of them still think it's 1970.

Indeed. The dimwittery of winning a vote that was mainly motivated by a desire to kick the ruling elite in the 'nads, and then almost immediately going on to re-elect that same ruling elite pretty much did for any hope Brexiteers had of appearing cogent, logical, or sane. I am sure there is some sort of parable about shoplifters with no hands in Saudi Arabia.

How about inflation in France? 5.4% or Spain? 3.3% or even Italy? 8.7% - all comparable economies before you come out with Hungary

Sweden? 10.6% -
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/sweden-raises-key-interest-rate-target-inflation-98858903

Well, I'm off out now to Caffè Nero - for some European culture.

@Clavinova no you didn't and are lucky enough to be in that position- as am I -but lots of people did believe that hyperbole

Food inflation is indeed quite high everywhere but is particularly noticeable here- when we lived in Denmark (19 months until May last year) it was noticeable that there was little difference in food prices now between UK and Denmark- except they earn considerably more and there is a great deal more good quality social housing. To be frank whilst I don't see the point one bit, I could live with it as it is with a change in government and a change in direction towards some progressive policies that benefit the masses, not just ones that benefit home owners, pensioners and the wealthy

Lol Are you struggling with "comparable economies" ? Sweden is 23rd largest economy based on GDP, have we fallen so far since Brexit?

Which in European terms would be Germany France followed by Italy, possibly Spain.

But even Sweden saw a significant fall from over 12%, ours dropped 0.3%

Lol Are you struggling with "comparable economies" ? Sweden is 23rd largest economy based on GDP, have we fallen so far since Brexit?

I think we're certainly heading in that direction. And given that Sweden has a population of about a 6th of ours, I'd say their economy is much stronger. Even given their stupid attitude yo Covid...

Why do you keep lying to yourself about Brexit?

It really is quitw amazing.

The lack of critical thinking skills is astonishing when there is so much evidence now.

Brexit has been a failure and it is making the UK poorer.

Plus the double whammy that not only is our food going up in price pretty much the fastest, we’re also seeing a marked drop in quality, as is most people’s experience on the other thread running.

Blimey these uplands sure are sunlit.

Brexit has been a failure and it is making the UK poorer.

That is not true. Brexit has been a roaring success (for some) .... and is making the UK poorer.

With those elites that Brexiteers thought they were "giving a bloody nose" now telling us to get used to being poorer.

Don't forget @clavinova believed everything Boris Johnson said as well, still does.

@Clavinova clearly the Tory PR machine has popped its head above the parapet just before local elections. There is a whole bunch of mumsnetters who don't post on anything except politics or Brexit- I find that really unusual - particularly in women I must admit

Isn't Nadine Dorries middle name "Clavinova" ?

https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-business-fear-brexit-checks-food-price-inflation/

It has massively damaged my democracy. Lord Frost can get in the bin with the rest of the liars in his party.

Frosty is like one of these typical fat fingered con merchants you get who hang around places like the Rotary club or the masons. Not actually done anything of massive significance but network a lot and somehow always get a payoff at some point - no doubt was a total brown noser and didn't actually agree initially withBrexit either- amazing what tosh they go along with if the money is good enough

The young people aren't going to fall for

"Vote for us again and see Brexit Benefits in 45 years"

Are they?

Brexit is done.

Finished.

It's just a matter of time before we go back in now.

I hope it's soon.

It has massively damaged my democracy

Absolutely. Claiming the opposite is pure sky-is-green type gaslighting.

Crikeyalmighty
@ Clavinova clearly the Tory PR machine has popped its head above the parapet just before local elections. There is a whole bunch of mumsnetters who don't post on anything except politics or Brexit- I find that really unusual - particularly in women I must admit

Actually - I posted on have you been to a place no one else has been to (again) thread.

Howpo
Lol Are you struggling with "comparable economies" ? Sweden is 23rd largest economy based on GDP, have we fallen so far since Brexit?

I mentioned Sweden because you mentioned 'Holland'.

Which in European terms would be Germany France followed by Italy, possibly Spain

So, when Italy (for example) had higher inflation than the UK in October, November, December - Brexit was a success at that point? And what do you mean by 'comparable economies'? Our energy industry doesn't compare with that of France (most nuclear-powered country in the world/state-owned EDF) - not to mention that France is the world's sixth largest agricultural producer.

In 2016 the British economy was 90% the size of Germany's. Now it is less than 70%.

HannibalHeyes
But "farminguk dot com" does speak for all farmers?

One of my links refers to 'new Welsh government data' - (published Jan 2023);
Dairy farms
Average income ... reached a new high in 2021-22 of £88,000. This is an increase of 46% on last year and is notably higher than the low period of 2015-16 and 2016-17.
Cattle and sheep (Less Favoured Area) farms
... income increased for the third consecutive year in 2021-22 to £38,600 (an increase of 29%) and is the highest since 2011-12.
Cattle and sheep (lowland) farms
... average income in 2021-22 saw the second consecutive annual increase reaching £26,500 (an increase of 16%) and is the highest since 2014-15.

Interestingly, the report has a section on Covid-19;
Impact of COVID-19
The data covers the period from March 2021 up to March 2022, the second year of the COVID-19 pandemic during which farm businesses in Wales were impacted. Despite the easing of lockdowns and other social distancing measures implemented during the early months of the COVID-19 pandemic, the sector is still recovering from the severely disrupted supply chains and limited supply of seasonal workers...

and a shorter section on the Ukraine crisis - but nothing on Brexit;

https://www.gov.wales/farm-incomes-april-2021-march-2022#:~:text=After%20a%20drop%20in%202018,%2D16%20and%202016%2D17