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Those of you who voted for Brexit when is it going to get better and how?

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N0addedsalt · 12/04/2023 07:40

I didn’t and didn’t see any benefits. Tried to refocus anger about the lies during the campaign to resignation and acceptance. Was ready to try and embrace/ focus on positives and move forward but still really can’t see any. Now just getting increasingly worried and also fearful.

Hit me with all the benefits and when we’re going to see them impacting our lives.

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Almostwelsh · 12/04/2023 08:00

I detest Brexit, but I have noticed that there are plentiful jobs for my teens and their friends now that the European Labour has dried up. Previously they were ignored in favour of Polish 20 somethings who could offer to work longer hours.

For people looking for low skilled work there are more jobs and the pay is better, as companies struggle to recruit. For the low skilled who voted for Brexit, they do seem to have got what they wanted. The big picture of the economy is dreadful, but on a small scale there are some winners.

FourTeaFallOut · 12/04/2023 08:00

I voted remain.

If I could be arsed, I'd be cross with Cameron for calling a referendum to pacify his back benchers. I'm cross with the lack luster remain campaign that took for granted the result and were lazy about their messaging. I'm cross with the mass media who lived in such an incestuous bubble with the establishment that they were utterly rocked by the result - if they had spent any time doing their job as the fourth estate and were prepared to air the concerns of those who felt utterly failed by the status quo - then perhaps we wouldn't have got to the point that a referendum was the first time they could register their protest in a meaningful way.

But I can't be arsed. Life goes on.

StillWantingADog · 12/04/2023 08:00

It won’t get better anytime soon it is a total disaster

however

they dare not advertise the fact but I predict Labour will Foster a more positive relationship with the EU after the next election. And their manifesto for the election after that will propose rejoining the customs Union at least. I do think that wrt our relationship with Europe, 10 years from now things will be in a much better place.

Zanatdy · 12/04/2023 08:00

My government dept have spent an insane amount of money on changes thanks to Brexit. People complained about the amount of money going to the EU but that pales into significance when you see how much is being spent, and literally no chance of that reducing anytime soon

isthewashingdryyet · 12/04/2023 08:01

I can now be weighed in stones and lbs again.
Hang on, it sounds better in metric as I don’t understand what it means

i didn’t vote leave btw

Changemaname1 · 12/04/2023 08:02

SparklingChampagneAndStrawberries · 12/04/2023 07:59

Bore off, this has been done to death.

It has , however , I don’t think Iv ever read an actual answer on any of those threads either !

I appreciate any results of brexit have now been clouded by Covid and the financial implications of that but i too would genuinely like to know what positives to brexit there have been or when we are likely to see them . Not to be goady I’d love to know . I live in this country I’d quite like things to go well 🤷🏻‍♀️

BitOutOfPractice · 12/04/2023 08:04

I see that despite Brexit supporters having the time and energy to tell you to bore off and question your MH, none of them has managed to muster up an answer to your actual question. Strange that isn't it?

I'm with you in the worried and anxious camp about where this is leading the UK

PoseyFlump · 12/04/2023 08:06

N0addedsalt · 12/04/2023 07:48

Don’t all rush at once.

Did you do a search? Your thread is identical to previous ones. Perhaps read those?

Tinkerbyebye · 12/04/2023 08:06

Yawn

PoseyFlump · 12/04/2023 08:07

There's a Brexit section on Mumsnet you know.

Thepeopleversuswork · 12/04/2023 08:08

It has , however , I don’t think Iv ever read an actual answer on any of those threads either !

This is the thing. The Brexit threads are incredibly boring of course but there has never from what I can see been a serious attempt to answer these questions.

It’s perfectly reasonable that having been sold this very traumatic and expensive exercise that we might feel after this many years we might want to see something to show for it. Or at the very least a coherent argument. But all that happens is that people are insulted for being “remoaners” and told they have problems with their mental health. While the country is very clearly in the worst economic health it’s been in for 50 years.

It’s a little bit like telling your husband you are tired of being beaten up and cheated on to have him turn around and tell you you are hysterical and to stop going on about it.

ItWillWash · 12/04/2023 08:10

I don't get the "life goes on," or "it's done, get over it," attitude.

The country is well and truly fucked. People are hungry, worried, cold etc. Why should they just "get over it"?

The current financial shithole we are in is not 100% the result of Brexit but it is definitely made worse by it. Energy and food prices in the UK vs the rest of the EU show us that the EU is coping with the current crisis far better than we are.

Personally, as someone whose life has gone from relatively comfortable to a constant struggle to eat and stay warm, I will not be getting over Brexit anytime soon, and anyone who tells me to can go fuck themselves.

BMW6 · 12/04/2023 08:12

I have consulted with the Powers That Be and can reassure you OP that it will all come good at 6.52am on 5 August 2025.

PaterPower · 12/04/2023 08:13

I was driving along the ‘heads of the valley’ (road route in Wales) the other day and was amused / pissed off all over again to see the “funded by the EU” signs all along it.

Wales, and many other economically depressed parts of the UK, benefitted so much from EU spending on infrastructure but still voted to leave. The UK Government doesn’t have the resources (or inclination) to spend anything similar on the regions.

I’ve not recognised a single benefit to Brexit yet. Rees-Smug and various other already wealthy people benefitted in the short term by playing the markets, but the rest of us…?

’Illegal’ immigration has expanded. Travel to the continent is more of a hassle. Importing and exporting goods is more complicated. We’ve made food import arrangements with other countries which will decimate our farmers. We’ve made ourselves (even) less relevant on the world stage… and after all of the pain, the NHS is worse off than it was before.

gemloving · 12/04/2023 08:14

I'm European and couldn't believe it had happened but I was pretty much the reason it did happen despite having gone to (I actually have dual nationality), you felt like shit a bit after the vote because deep down we all know that was the true reason for Brexit, not just the £350m for the NHS.

A lot of Europeans left the country which obviously was very much wanted by the majority (no offence OP), so is this the benefits people were looking for?

I truly don't know. I'm still here though and see London as my home with my husband and children. I suppose London has its very own bubble in a way through.

gemloving · 12/04/2023 08:15

P.s. we all have blue or black? Passports now. What a great benefit ha!

Freysimo · 12/04/2023 08:16

SobranieCocktail · 12/04/2023 07:49

There are no benefits. However, I found it such a horrible feeling to be so bitter and angry about it all the time, so I've kind of moved on.

Most sensible people have moved on. What are the posters who revisit this regularly trying to achieve?

Changemaname1 · 12/04/2023 08:17

@Thepeopleversuswork exactly !!

SweetSakura · 12/04/2023 08:18

Freysimo · 12/04/2023 08:16

Most sensible people have moved on. What are the posters who revisit this regularly trying to achieve?

I think it's an important conversation to have actually. If the vote had gone the other way I can guarantee the brexiteers wouldn't have "moved on".

And a refusal to discuss what a pack of lies the "benefits " were feels like gaslighting.

I don't obsess over this but I am very curious to hear from people who voted leave..and disappointed none will stick their head above the parapet

LoudMouthLol · 12/04/2023 08:19

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potatowhale · 12/04/2023 08:19

This is it isn't it? This is the end goal..

GudiBrallan · 12/04/2023 08:23

Freysimo, it's not 'not sensible' to seek accountability. Some pretty big claims and promises were made, the benefits which should be evident by now. It's not as if it is a long time ago; many very legitimate lawsuits rumble on for years -should the litigants just 'move on'?

IForgotMyUsernameAgain · 12/04/2023 08:24

So many people with their heads firmly in the sand on this thread.

I see we're at a mixture of the gas lighting and denial stage of the Narcissist's Prayer.

Has anyone blamed remainers yet for not believing enough?

FourTeaFallOut · 12/04/2023 08:25

What's that alternative, just drag a huge sack of resentment through life with you? You could call it the, "I was right" bag and it wouldn't weigh any less.

itsgettingweird · 12/04/2023 08:26

LadyFlossieParkingson · 12/04/2023 07:48

Op kindly I think you need to speak to someone to work through your thoughts/feelings

Patronising enough?

I get how the OP feels and she isn't the only one.

Many of us wanted to remain. Accepted we were leaving, put aside the lies and waited for the utopia Brexit was going to create.

Yet instead we are all struggling to pay bills, watching prices rise, struggling to get some foods in the supermarket. Increased number of boats across the channel.

I'd also like to know when we will see those benefits and what they'll be. We left to improve life. So far it's been absolutely the opposite.

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