Those of you who voted for Brexit when is it going to get better and how?

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I didn’t and didn’t see any benefits. Tried to refocus anger about the lies during the campaign to resignation and acceptance. Was ready to try and embrace/ focus on positives and move forward but still really can’t see any. Now just getting increasingly worried and also fearful.

Hit me with all the benefits and when we’re going to see them impacting our lives.

I'm sorry.
I do get pissed off with poor people being blamed for Brexit though.

I accept that my view might be obscured by the people around me (my family) and I know that not every Leave voter was motivated by racism, indeed some of them may have wanted to increase immigration from Africa and Asia. The racist caricature of Leave voters hasn't come from nowhere though. Every racist group in the UK (EDL, Britain First etc) all wholeheartedly and vocally supported Leave, not one of them supported Remain.

It can't really still be a shock that the racists voted for Brexshit, surely?

They were specifically targeted, after all. Remember Fartages "Breaking Point" poster? And ass Ken says above, all the people I know who were saying out loud that they were going to vote Leave were racist. More anecdata, obviously, but I really don't think trying to rewrite history, however much you would like to, can be allowed.

Then be part of the change @Kendodd

Rather than letting the Racist Leave myth snowball so that those who did vote that way are too scared to own it, try listening to the alternative reasons for the vote.

It's far more satisfying and safe to look for evidence to cement your own opinion but unless this changes, nothing changes and opinions remain polarised.

Alternative non-racist reasons amongst my Leave-voting friends were:

The polls all pointed to a Remain win, so he voted Leave to give Cameron an uncomfortably close victory. That really worked well, tactical voting in a binary referendum. I wouldn’t call him a racist, or particularly thick, but it ain’t clever wot he done.

Britain’s famers were apparently all forced by the EU to rip out thousands of kilometres* of hedgerow, so she voted Leave “for the farmers”.

(*Heh, just kidding, she said “miles” not kilometres.)

Another one who voted Leave was/is a thick racist, but also from a well-known fishing town in Devon, so voted “for the fishermen”.

My BIL, married to a German who didn’t have a vote, with two under-voting aged children who BEGGED him, as the only voter in the house, to vote Remain - he voted Leave to “stir things up, teach Cameron a lesson”.

Brilliant. Just brilliant.

Finally! Thank you.

I voted leave. I am not a racist, I actually think that being part of a multicultural society brings a wealth of benefits. I did my own research, in fact I read article upon article at the time because I felt like the Government were not providing people with enough accurate, and more importantly UNBIASED information. I did it because I felt that it would open the door to us worldwide rather than being tied so closely to the EU. I knew things would be shit initially, but was (and am) still optimistic that things will get better.

But I am fed up with being labelled a racist idiot.

And before everyone starts with other assumptions, I voted Labour as well.

I don’t think you are racist but I think your optimism is misplaced (and I don’t trust your research methodology).

Yeah you can't wait to flog off the NHS. Part of the motivation for Brexit .

and I don’t trust your research methodology

What research methodology did you use to make your decision?

Given that we bought the spin that to vote to remain in the Privileged White Folk club was not racist but voting to leave it was, I suspect we all drank a fair amount of Cool-Aid in 2016.

This is, of course, completely fabricated nonsense.

So it seems that Raaaab has blamed his downfall on "anti-Brexit activist civil servants".

So there, finally a Brexshit benefit!

I do cringe for people who say they 'did their own research' .
As if any research I, or any other non expert, could possibly do would mean I was sufficiently well informed to weigh up the economic costs/benefits of Brexit. 95%+ (I didnt make that figure up, that was the figure) of economists said Brexit would be bad for the economy, that and the consequences for peace in NI made my mind up.

I think one of the dumbest things I ever heard out of the mouth of a Leave voter was along the lines of 'yeah but what do experts know, you can't trust them, they're all bloody Remainers '.

Where did you get that figure from?

That’s basically my point. ‘I did my own research’ usually means ‘I read a lot of opinion pieces that generally tallied with my initial gut reaction’.

All of the craziest people I know.. anti-vaxxers, conspiracy theorists, Trump fans.. do ‘their own research’. Tbf, most of these crazies love to take a deep dive into the wackier corners of the internet and most people who supported Brexit clearly didn’t do that. But reading a bunch of articles in the media that tally with your innate preference whilst remaining otherwise lovely and normal is actually most people’s versions of ‘doing research’.

The mainstream, global view of Brexit was that it wasn’t a good, economically sound or stable idea and that is what has panned out. Heck, it was a referendum so all that mattered was preference. And preference won. But we don’t have to pretend that it was a logical decision.

@HannibalHeyes how can you say it's nonsense when this thread itself is proof of the Groupthink that surrounds Remainers. I'm fed up to my back teeth of hearing that Leave voters are racist morons and not like us clever folk who knew Brexit would damage the economy.

Did it? Yes. Did it have a positive affect for those seeking level entry work? Again, yes, the employment stats speak for themselves.

Are employers having to invest money into up-skilling their remaining workforce. Again, yes.

Not great if you're an employer but I would say, despite high inflation, life's now better for some...which is why they voted how they did.

If we're untouched by the advantage they're now enjoying then we're not going to realise it's happening. I see it due to my line of work but given how much of the woe here is very 1st world, I'm not surprised you're surprised.

Again, what a load of nonsense, desperately trying to rewrite history.

It's simple bullshit, and I will keep calling it out as such.

@HannibalHeyes except you haven't. You said "this is bullshit" with no context to prove your point whatsoever.

We all can do that. Look, I can say "no, you're the one talking bullshit" and back it up with sweet f'all too, but it's just meaningless.

Either back up your argument or don't bother responding.

Sorry, I've spent year arguing with Brexidiots. I just CBA any more...

And, again, you're claiming these "benefits" are that lower paid workers are getting a 5% pay rise when we've got a food inflation rate of nearly 20% - frankly you're talking shit.

It's just more disinformation. Don't be a Russian asset...

Basically there's Patrick Minford who the Brexiteers quote all the time. He thinks all manufacturing in Britain will have to stop. Farming too. And Brexit makes this easier without the Common Agricultural Policy etc.
I can't recall how the British economy is meant to function in his view. Casino maybe?

Obviously Minford is a genius and the others have got it all wrong. Otherwise things could get tricky...

Ah yes, the genius Patrick Minford who inspired Liz Truss' budget, which was checks notes only a £78 Billion loss for the UK economy...

@HannibalHeyes except I voted to stay. I've had to adjust how I work due to Brexit and am a fair bit poorer due to it so please don't lump me in with your 'Brexidiots'.

However, those who voted to end Freedom of Movement got what they voted for didn't they, and are now reaping the benefits. So perhaps not as idiotic as you might suggest. And perhaps I may suggest there's more to society than our own small circles of like-minded Remainers and maybe we'd be better off building bridges, not only so we can "get over it" but to expand our own horizons. There is power in diversity. And diversity of opinion is just as important.

Except they didn't get what they were voting for, did they? They were patently voting for fewer "forriners", and now we have even more immigration than before. And worse (in the eyes of most of those who voted for "ending FOM"), we have more immigration from less white and more Muslim cultures. Because there is more than enough evidence that that is what they were voting against. But then racists are not the sharpest tools in the drawer...