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Those of you who voted for Brexit when is it going to get better and how?

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N0addedsalt · 12/04/2023 07:40

I didn’t and didn’t see any benefits. Tried to refocus anger about the lies during the campaign to resignation and acceptance. Was ready to try and embrace/ focus on positives and move forward but still really can’t see any. Now just getting increasingly worried and also fearful.

Hit me with all the benefits and when we’re going to see them impacting our lives.

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itsgettingweird · 12/04/2023 08:27

NotTerfNorCis · 12/04/2023 07:54

There are no benefits. If there were, people would be mentioning them instead of coming out with 'salty remainer tears', 'you lost, got over it', 'you need help' or whatever other slogans they use.

👏👏👏👏

This.

I fully believed when remain lost people knew something I hadn't considered and went with the vote.

If they could just tell me what I missed.......

Neverhappyalwayshopeful · 12/04/2023 08:28

Fuctifin0 · 12/04/2023 07:57

One of my customers owns a large haulage firm.
He said Brexit was the best thing that happened for his firm.
I know things have taken a downturn since. As he said, if people aren't buying things, then things don't need transporting around the country.

And the cost of transporting the things people are buying e.g food and essentials has risen massively.

Hongkongsuey · 12/04/2023 08:30

I feel you. I can’t believe the stupidity of putting such a question to the vote when it was obvious it would be an act of huge harm. Why would you ask the general public if you should cut your leg off? Knowing that there would be many people saying that cutting off your leg is a great thing and will make you free. I’m old now but I feel for the young who never had a say and who have to live with the effects. You’re not mentally ill at all for questioning it. And the people telling you to bore off? Don’t read the thread then.

Tiggy321 · 12/04/2023 08:31

Absolutely no benefits. I live in EU country and have luckily managed to get citizenship for me and kids so we all still have EU passports to allow free movement work and study in EU. Was very important for me and my children. I come back to UK regularly and have noticed big changes at the borders, delays etc. All in all a nightmare which never should have happened IMO

Neededanewuserhandle · 12/04/2023 08:33

Wow what a novel thread. "Please will people who voted leave express some views so the rest of us can tell them they are wrong". genius, and so original.

TheKobayashiMaru · 12/04/2023 08:34

Why would people answer just to get abuse?

Exactly

SweetSakura · 12/04/2023 08:35

Neededanewuserhandle · 12/04/2023 08:33

Wow what a novel thread. "Please will people who voted leave express some views so the rest of us can tell them they are wrong". genius, and so original.

On the contrary. I would genuinely love to hear some positives. I really mean that. But noone has articulated any yet?

Neverhappyalwayshopeful · 12/04/2023 08:38

Also I had a similar conversation with some friends of which a few are very financially secure. They say it's never been easier to make money for them as their own assets have increased in value, staff are working harder than before as they need their jobs, people need to borrow as they can't afford to buy outright and a lot of the places their money is invested and their business models capitalise on that with credit terms etc.

On the flip side, the continual rises to minimum wage are driving the cost of commodities up and affecting small family run businesses as there is little to no profit margin left and it's labour intensive being self employed or working for your own company. Many are being closed down or being bought out by the giants.

HappyHolidai · 12/04/2023 08:39

Maybe the only advantage is that the pro-Brexit people have stopped going on about how much better it would be if we weren't in the EU.

We are now out and things are much worse. So no one got what they wanted.

MerylSqueak · 12/04/2023 08:40

Brexit wasn't a drunken tiff on a Friday night to 'get over.'

It was a historically important decision for our country. It has changed things. What on earth do you mean, 'Get over it?'

Lovetotravel123 · 12/04/2023 08:40

I’m with you on this, OP.

SherbertDabs · 12/04/2023 08:41

It’s a massive shit show. Any benefits that may happen will be long after our lifetime. People deflecting as facing up to the face we’ve completely fucked ourselves is too much to deal with I think.

ImAvingOops · 12/04/2023 08:42

I think it gets better when we have a government who invests in this country.
I voted for Brexit - I took a view that the EU is too big, too unwieldy, resistant to change and is a useful place for politicians to hide. It provided a nice gravy train for failed domestic politicians of all member nations. I believe that you still be true. What I was hoping for was that leaving would force our own politicians to be more accountable - to invest in training our own citizens instead of relying on cheap labour from abroad that puts our own employees at a disadvantage and exploit's foreign workers.

Where I went wrong was in giving our politicians too much credit, in thinking they would rise instead of just continuing to be self serving. And that they would be replaced if they didn't rise. Our govt knew that leaving was a real possibility and did nothing to prepare for it - didn't invest in training dentists/doctors etc.

In short, it's failed because of the calibre of our politicians.

Wtfishappeningnow · 12/04/2023 08:44

The benefits of brexit can be seen in the bank accounts of the few super wealthy that instigated the whole thing. It was never meant to benefit us the people.

Itcouldhappenabishop · 12/04/2023 08:45

OK I'll try OP. Caveat: I'm a remainer with a European passport so I'm all right Jack.
I work in banking. Brexit meant we needed to redomicile huge amounts of our business into the EU. So we opened European offices, branches etc. On the one hand this meant that vast chunks of P&L disappeared from the UK, but they instantly re-emerged in Paris/Frankfurt etc. Expanding the European business has made it easier to pursue business in the region than if we were doing it from London. We hire local people who know the market, client base etc.
Having said all that there was nothing stopping us doing that prior to Brexit, it was just more that Brexit gave is the motivation.
Alternative view is that Brexit was a very good thing for Paris/Amsterdam/Dublin/Frankfurt as we have spent millions on offices, jobs etc!
I read all of these threads and I've never seen an actual answer from a Brexiteer. Apart from wishy washy guff about sovereignty (which of course was never in question). So Brexit seemed to be about a sort of ephemeral...feeling?

megletthesecond · 12/04/2023 08:46

Is someone keeping a numbered list of the positives? Or even better, a spreadsheet, as they'll be so many upsides we missed......

Differen · 12/04/2023 08:48

I didn't vote for Brexit, but I will answer your question.

It will get better when we rejoin and renegotiate the terms to be mutually beneficial.

Or

We become an incredibly self sufficient country (however I think that is incredibly difficult and Unlikely)

On a subnote: I want my freedom of movement back and I'm so pissed of this was even up for a vote in the first place. Freedom of movement is a human right and the fact Jackie, Gary and John who never leave the local pub got asked if they want to remove it appauls me.

vera99 · 12/04/2023 08:48

Shit in the sea and rivers - I was always jealous of these free spirit wild swimmers but couldn't face braving the elements. Now thanks to Brexit I don't need to worry about being left behind. 😡

MerylSqueak · 12/04/2023 08:48

ImAvingOops · 12/04/2023 08:42

I think it gets better when we have a government who invests in this country.
I voted for Brexit - I took a view that the EU is too big, too unwieldy, resistant to change and is a useful place for politicians to hide. It provided a nice gravy train for failed domestic politicians of all member nations. I believe that you still be true. What I was hoping for was that leaving would force our own politicians to be more accountable - to invest in training our own citizens instead of relying on cheap labour from abroad that puts our own employees at a disadvantage and exploit's foreign workers.

Where I went wrong was in giving our politicians too much credit, in thinking they would rise instead of just continuing to be self serving. And that they would be replaced if they didn't rise. Our govt knew that leaving was a real possibility and did nothing to prepare for it - didn't invest in training dentists/doctors etc.

In short, it's failed because of the calibre of our politicians.

Thank you for giving a proper answer.

Whatafustercluck · 12/04/2023 08:48

x2boys · 12/04/2023 07:51

Why would people answer just to get abuse?
Just like all.the other Goady Brexit threads it will be full,of remainers,patting themselves in the back and shouting down any brave person who, tried to say why they voted ,nobody need to explain to.you why they voted they way they did ,people are allowed to vote differently to you.

Op didn't ask why they voted that way, the question was what are the real benefits, almost 7 years after the vote. By now, shouldn't all our lives be vastly better than living under the draconian and authoritarian rule of the EU?

ArcticSkewer · 12/04/2023 08:50

Rees Mogg told us it will take about 50 years to see the benefits, so come back then op, it's too early.

I wouldn't expect too much though, tbh.

Lostinalibrary · 12/04/2023 08:51

A lot of the posts in here explain the staggering economical illiteracy in this country, how we are going to be behind Russia this year and why politicians get away with it. Some posters couldn’t be more stereotypical if they tried. It’s almost like we pride ourselves on projecting an uneducated persona.

Thisbastardcomputer · 12/04/2023 08:52

Give it a rest, it's here and it's not going, so learn to live with it!

Kendodd · 12/04/2023 08:52

We're now free to dump shit in the sea?

And for all those saying to shut up about brexit, no, leave voters should be reminded every day what they voted for. To quote them they knew what they voted for. The UK is now predicted to perform worse economy than Russia. And I hope our young people hold their elders to account for stripping them of their rights as EU citizens.

ItWillWash · 12/04/2023 08:52

It will get better when we rejoin and renegotiate the terms to be mutually beneficial.

Can we do this, though? Surely we will be a much worse place to negotiate once/if we attempt to rejoin than we were before we left?

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