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To not care at all about the King’s coronation?

499 replies

northernsunshine · 10/04/2023 16:11

This is going to infuriate a lot of people but I think we are a nation of fools.

does anyone else really not care? I’m surprised given what’s happening in France there isn’t more opposition to the coronation.

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Florenz · 06/05/2023 14:05

The cost of living crisis would be even worse if the people who have money weren't out spending it.

Boussa · 06/05/2023 14:17

@Crikeyalmighty it is most certainly us pissing it down, though nothing a cagoule and a flask of tea can't handle

OMG12 · 06/05/2023 14:20

2ManyPjs · 06/05/2023 01:51

Over 30% of children are living in poverty in the UK, but please do stop moaning eh? Just so the rest of the country can enjoy going gaga watching an unelected 'anointed' king mince about in a fucking gold carriage with a ridiculous £4billion crown on his napper. The whole charade is morally obscene.

I hope you’ve sold all your assets not required to sustain life and given it to the poor. It’s obscene when people are sat there with electronics often built on the backs of exploited children whilst children in the world don’t have clean water.

2ManyPjs · 06/05/2023 14:27

@OMG12 Classic childish whataboutery. Ram it.

OMG12 · 06/05/2023 14:41

2ManyPjs · 06/05/2023 14:27

@OMG12 Classic childish whataboutery. Ram it.

No more irrelevant than a petulant anti monarchist moaning on about what about the poor children, they should sell the crown then everything would be absolutely fine. Because all children in America, France etc are all perfectly fine with no poverty etc.

OMG12 · 06/05/2023 14:43

2ManyPjs · 06/05/2023 14:27

@OMG12 Classic childish whataboutery. Ram it.

And what does “Ram it” mean? Some overly aggressive way to tell me to shut up? Do you not like people arguing against you? Can you not cope with alternative perspectives. Do differing perspectives always make you that rude and angry?

Blossomtoes · 06/05/2023 14:56

Florenz · 06/05/2023 14:05

The cost of living crisis would be even worse if the people who have money weren't out spending it.

I think this is a first but you’re absolutely right.

Notwavingbutsignalling · 06/05/2023 14:58

I’ve 2 things to say

was that Floella Benjamin in the procession?

and

George does a fair bit of gurning compared to the other lads 🤣

northernsunshine · 06/05/2023 17:59

Coronation Day and I’m afraid to say, while 20 per cent of you lot think I’m unreasonable, I continue to feel completely unmoved by the whole thing and slightly repulsed at the extravagance and pomp of it all during a time where so many are struggling.

I have nothing against Prince Charles - I suppose a slightly inbred but stable family is better than a presidential system which would attract even worse egomaniacs than we already suffer in British politics.

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BetterFuture1985 · 06/05/2023 19:26

SunnySaturdayMorning · 06/05/2023 12:54

Oh honey. The “cost of living crisis” is only a thing for the very vocal minority.

The majority of the population are suffering no such thing.

You sound just like Marie Antoinette just before she ended up in La Conciergerie.

BitterTits · 06/05/2023 19:35

I find them irrelevant. Had we not just had his majesty's inspectors in, I'd probably spend Monday planning and marking, but I'm exhausted. I certainly won't lift a finger to volunteer on his behalf - I contribute plenty as it is.

THisbackwithavengeance · 06/05/2023 21:22

I can't get excited about the Coronation and haven't even watched it on the telly as I'm watching Bridgerton but I quite like Charles so wish him well.

I think he means well and tries his best.

When people say abolish the Monarchy I wonder if people have thought it through. Do we really want some Donald Trump type moving into Buck Pal as president?

I will be forced to watch the reruns with DH tomorrow - he always watches these things as he's an ex drill sergeant and likes to critique the procession.

Notmybloodyking · 06/05/2023 22:58

THisbackwithavengeance · 06/05/2023 21:22

I can't get excited about the Coronation and haven't even watched it on the telly as I'm watching Bridgerton but I quite like Charles so wish him well.

I think he means well and tries his best.

When people say abolish the Monarchy I wonder if people have thought it through. Do we really want some Donald Trump type moving into Buck Pal as president?

I will be forced to watch the reruns with DH tomorrow - he always watches these things as he's an ex drill sergeant and likes to critique the procession.

When people say abolish the Monarchy I wonder if people have thought it through. Do we really want some Donald Trump type moving into Buck Pal as president?

The main difference being that Donald Trump was voted out after a term. We can’t do anything about these scroungers as things currently stand.

Coxspurplepippin · 06/05/2023 23:11

Notmybloodyking · 06/05/2023 22:58

When people say abolish the Monarchy I wonder if people have thought it through. Do we really want some Donald Trump type moving into Buck Pal as president?

The main difference being that Donald Trump was voted out after a term. We can’t do anything about these scroungers as things currently stand.

He managed a fair amount of damage in the term and is still hanging on round the edges, stirring the pot, wreaking havoc, whipping up the malcontents.

vera99 · 06/05/2023 23:15

Roussette · 06/05/2023 11:26

Says it all !!!

I'm nothing if not fair. I did think about not sharing this and spoiling a good anecdote but we Republics must hold higher standards.

https://twitter.com/edinburghpaper/status/1654810709853708296

https://twitter.com/edinburghpaper/status/1654810709853708296

MrsWhatalovelyday · 06/05/2023 23:38

Well, I've had a lovely day... My family been around. My dad has had time with his great granddaughter. We've all watched history happen as a family and made memories. We've had a buffet, cream tea and decorations and raised a glass. I've added to our economy with my purchases along with many others today. I'm a royalist, I think they do as value to our country. I am proud to be British and I'm no ones fool.

BetterFuture1985 · 07/05/2023 09:09

THisbackwithavengeance · 06/05/2023 21:22

I can't get excited about the Coronation and haven't even watched it on the telly as I'm watching Bridgerton but I quite like Charles so wish him well.

I think he means well and tries his best.

When people say abolish the Monarchy I wonder if people have thought it through. Do we really want some Donald Trump type moving into Buck Pal as president?

I will be forced to watch the reruns with DH tomorrow - he always watches these things as he's an ex drill sergeant and likes to critique the procession.

The "do we want...." argument is actually an argument against democracy so I don't know why people make it. Essentially what you are saying is that ordinary people are so stupid that they should not be trusted to elect their head of state. Instead, we should leave it to luck who we get. Incidentally, we have no mechanism to get rid of them if they're bad, at which juncture I might point out that for nearly a quarter of a century Prince Andrew was second in line to the throne.

Obviously, I disagree with this anti-democratic argument because I would trust people to elect a decent president (or at the very least, vote them out of office at the first opportunity if they do a bad job). Bear in mind Trump only lasted one term in the USA and in the UK Boris Johnson only lasted about two and a half years before his position was untenable. Democracy works and when office holders misbehave or screw up they have to resign (e.g. Richard Nixon or Eliot Spitzer in the USA or Johnson or Truss here).

Also, it depends on what kind of presidency you have and how they are elected. If you have a President who is actively involved in the day to day management of the executive like in the USA or France, then you will probably have a Presidential Republic and get a politician with a track record of working in government. However, given the UK's constitution, it is much more likely you would have a Parliamentary Republic where the President is more of a figurehead and open to people from other walks of life. Boris Johnson could be a risk if he was standing against Tony Blair, but I wouldn't fancy his chances if he was up against someone like Stephen Fry for example. Similarly, it would be wise to have run off elections so only someone capable of achieving more than 50% of the vote in the final ballot could win, which would safely rule out people like Trump who relied on an electoral college or Boris Johnson, a man the majority of the country couldn't stand from the day he became PM.

There's one other very important point too though. People complain about a President Blair or President Johnson but here is the rub. Rishi Sunak already has more power here than Joe Biden has in the USA or Emmanuel Macron has in France because of the Royal Prerogative. There's a constitutional convention that he should not do so, but he can take the UK to war without anyone else's consent. He can award honours to whoever he likes; some of the emergency responses to COVID-19 such as the VIP fast lane for Tory donors to supply PPE were the result of these powers too. So actually one very good reason to do away with the monarchy is to take powers away from the Prime Minister and hand them to Parliament.

MasterBeth · 07/05/2023 23:41

MrsWhatalovelyday · 06/05/2023 23:38

Well, I've had a lovely day... My family been around. My dad has had time with his great granddaughter. We've all watched history happen as a family and made memories. We've had a buffet, cream tea and decorations and raised a glass. I've added to our economy with my purchases along with many others today. I'm a royalist, I think they do as value to our country. I am proud to be British and I'm no ones fool.

Presumably, your family don’t only come round when there’s a coronation.

Nothing you’ve mentioned is dependent on there being a royal family.

Blossomtoes · 07/05/2023 23:46

Essentially what you are saying is that ordinary people are so stupid that they should not be trusted to elect their head of state.

That’s a good argument based on recent history. I wouldn’t trust the electorate as far as I can throw it, given that it voted for Brexit and a government led by Boris Johnson.

AmateurDad · 07/05/2023 23:46

Well we don’t have any bloody choice, do we? I didn’t ask for a BH and I don’t like BHs. When I go back to work even more tasks have piled up.

OnceAgainWithFeeling · 07/05/2023 23:48

Same. 5+ days to do in 4. Another week of bloody Mondays.

Greenpin · 07/05/2023 23:49

We've had a lovely celebration in our village and we wouldn't have done that without the coronation. The argument that we could do it any time is absolutely true but we don't, we haven't and celebrating King Charles coming to the throne was the catalyst to a wonderful day.

MrsWhatalovelyday · 08/05/2023 02:46

MasterBeth of course I see my family. All I am saying is we made memories this weekend watching history happen together, watching the pomp and ceremony and waving our flags, toasting the king, what Britain does well and yes we like the Royal family and I'm personally glad we have one. I can't think of a republic that I would prefer to live in. Just my opinion, that luckily here in Britain we are all entitled to.

MrsWhatalovelyday · 08/05/2023 03:00

MasterBeth · 07/05/2023 23:41

Presumably, your family don’t only come round when there’s a coronation.

Nothing you’ve mentioned is dependent on there being a royal family.

MasterBeth of course I see my family. I don't normally put up bunting, do cream teas and drink fizz though. All I am saying is we made memories this weekend watching history happen together, watching the pomp and ceremony and waving our flags, toasting the king, what Britain does well and yes we like the Royal family and I'm personally glad we have one. I can't think of a republic that I would prefer to live in. Just my opinion, that luckily here in Britain I'm entitled to.

Anitazs · 08/05/2023 09:41

I agree. 100%. 2.9 million adults incl 1 million kids using food banks - a rocketing suicide rate. Schools and the NHS on their knees. People wanting to leave the UK - and are - in their droves - also kept out of the media.
The PM (I can't say his name he is so revolting and out of touch and self -seeking it beggars belief)...is so thick Oxford uni must be so ashamed of what he is doing to their reputation - and he silences the media at every oportunity.
The ONS usually publishes its annual stats on the suicide rate - and hasn't since 2021. Silenced by the govt no doubt.
I cannot believe anyone anywhere with a brain would want this coronation tax payer funded; the RF have more than enough money to fund it themselves, and should.
A man who finally got a job at the age of 73.
From his mum.
Who is already King; why does he need a goddam coronation...
Ridiculous; and some.