To not care at all about the King’s coronation?

[northernsunshine]

This is going to infuriate a lot of people but I think we are a nation of fools.

does anyone else really not care? I’m surprised given what’s happening in France there isn’t more opposition to the coronation.

It's just that it's all people talk about on the internet and the news. The same information regurgitated over and over again. It's not good for mental health to ruminate on things that are outside of your control.

I think people who choose to spend a Spring day inside watching an old, privileged man be worshipped by sychophants need to get a grip.

Some people have no choice. How do you think people’s mental health is when they can’t pay their rent or feed their kids? It’s all people ever talk about because it’s a lot of people’s lives. You should change your user name to MarieAntoinette.

Yes but the whole country doesn't need to be depressed just because half of them are.

Jesus. I can’t believe you’re real. 🙄

No one talks about poor people day in day out but there is something rather weird about spending 100s of millions, reduction in GDP, celebrating and swearing allegiance to a multi billionaire whilst within a stones throw of Buck ho and Westminster, people are literally starving... MPs recently had to step over the body of a man who died over night.

I'll never forget my first time in London... Soup Kitchens on the Embankment & and 2 young child beggars nr East Aldgate.

I also wont take a "Green" lecture from a man who has spent his entire life driving gas guzzling cars and flying all over the UK and the World in one of the worst polluting forms of mass transport.. the aeroplane.

Unbelievable people take this idiot seriously.

I agree. This coronation is bollocks. The continued financial support of the royals by the taxpayer needs to stop.

Well my building is closed so of course I will accept it!

And yet you are on a thread about exactly that subject hmmmm

Besides which if that was followed to the logical conclusion Mumsnet would probably collapse.

Yeah. This

Oh that's good to know.

Do you understand how an internet forum works?

If the thread was of no interest to you, you have the option to scroll to one that does.

It's topical. People will discuss it from both perspectives.

I can't get worked up when I'm struggling with working all the hours under the sun to feed my children pay energy bills and I see the amount spent on this. For an over privileged family who have never known hardship in their lives. Sorry that's how I feel.

If people want to get all excited about a septuagenarian getting a shiny hat then fair enough I'll leave them to it but I think it is high time that society takes a more balanced view of the monarchy and what it actually does. The BBC in particular needs to stop broadcasting sycophantic nonsense and take a more balanced approach to reporting on the monarchy.

What particularly bothers me is that my children's school takes a very one sided approach to royalty. They got the children excited about the jubilee and now the coronation without any consideration that they might be responsible for teaching them about the republican cause in equal measure. I also object to how I am attacked as "negative" for saying I don't have any interest in the coronation and I don't want to take part in street parties or events with family and friends to celebrate the day. As a society, we should be long past forcing each other's opinions on each other.

If they carry on in exactly the same tone deaf, superior way they always have, they'll hang themselves. It jars particularly in times of austerity; which, TBF, have made up the bulk of the time between WWII and now if you consider that the later 'booms' have been nothing more than a debt bubble.

The world has moved on from this medieval pantomime and they haven't moved with it. Their attitudes to women, especially, are from the dark ages and as for their silly games of dress-up, they're enough to make Hans Christian Andersen laugh.

Their time is finite, and I suspect even they know it.

I genuinely believe 'society' does take a more balanced view than the one we are fed by the sickly media. The image of Saint Kate, in particular, is bordering on laughable.

This family is a triumph of propaganda. People seem to believe the majority of our compatriots think the, wonderful, because the media is always telling us we do. Our DC's school is also neck-deep in this pro-establishment nonsense, although DC is thankfully drawing their own conclusions about this and are asking searching questions that are very pleasing for me, as a parent, to hear.

Unquestioning deference to privilege and the establishment is not a message I want conveying to my child.

Few of us, I suspect, have ever been asked and there might be quite a different picture if we were. The vox pop on the internet, for one, tells a very different story.

@SerafinasGoose

I've been saying this for a while re propaganda .
I once mentioned that the 'royals ' benefitted from constant low level ( not low level at the moment ) propaganda in the media - cue shocked Pikachu faces from royalists

I saw a tabloid headline yesterday claiming support for the monarchy is 'rock solid'

Complete double speak now
Lies are the truth

Can we have a proper poll on this ?

P. S
Good on your child .

Critical thinking is in short supply

@Novella4 thank you re DC, we've been doing quite a bit of unpicking of what I see as frankly dangerous propaganda being pumped into our kids by schools. I'm the more acutely aware of this because I teach the humanities in university.

To say that nowadays we have a problem with critical thinking in general is an understatement. DC is only of primary age, but (gently and in an age-appropriate way) I guide them toward questioning what they hear and read. Far better to do that, IMO, than for example banning Enid Blyton outright.

As for your observation: I saw a tabloid headline yesterday claiming support for the monarchy is 'rock solid', I've seen more than one since the death of QEII claiming it was at rock bottom. That view appears to be endorsed by none other than KCIII's sister.

One of them is certainly wrong.

I would happily trade a Bank Holiday if it meant the UK were emancipated from the archaic farce that is Aristocracy. £100m spent on the "Emperor's New Clothes" whilst children go hungry, old people freeze and Medical professionals strike because they just want a decent living and you want people to be grateful to enjoy for 24hrs of their own time! A bank hikiday is a distraction. Only 30% of the population give a shit about the coronation I'm pretty sure 70% of us would work for free on Monday if it got rid of that racist, colonising car crash of a family.

We are throwing an Anti Royal Rebellion Party in London N5. I can save you a Camilla is a C*nt cream slice if you like 😘

Life in the UK would be no better without a monarchy than it is with it. Blame the right people for the state the country’s in. The problem isn’t in Buckingham Palace, it’s in Downing Street.

Saint Diana rains in heaven where her tears shall anoint the righteous and sinner alike. If this happens then it's just me and my partner shouting at the telly at home. If an oath wasn't sworn and nobody sees it was it a protest ? Sadly that means me blathering on MN instead....

Many decades ago God did hit York Minster with lightning just days after the enthronement of the 'heretic' Bishop of Durham opining that the resurrection was just a "conjuring trick with bones". I've got Charles down as breaking 5 of the 10 Commandments. Which is pretty much a red card in ecclesiastical terms.

2 “Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image.” coins, stamps, heraldic trinkets and such like
7 “Thou shalt not commit adultery.” (a given)
8 “Thou shalt not steal.” (another man's wife)
9 “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.”
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/09/prince-charles-vetted-laws-that-stop-his-tenants-buying-their-homes
10 “Thou shalt not covet.” (The Crown obviously)

Weather on the ceremony day
Most of England and Wales can expect to see the arrival of rainstorms at 11am on Saturday – the very time the coronation ceremony is scheduled to start.
By 3pm, forecasts show London in particular will be heavily hit by the predicted thunderstorms, which unfortunately looks like it could coincide with the King’s post-coronation procession, where many are expected to line the route of his return journey and hopefully catch a glimpse of the newly crowned pair.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/06/david-jenkins-bishop-durham-biblical-facts-fire-york-minster

How would you suggest people didn't "accept" the "free" bank holiday?

Well, there's this new trend called 'working from home' which the British public seem to love.

All those complaining that they have no choice but to partake due to office closure may even have the necessary setup in place already. Just think, they could spend a whole day catching up on admin in protest of the coronation and free BH.

You don’t have to care if you choose not to. It isn’t compulsory.