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Dalai llama ask a child to suck his tongue

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Mooshamoo · 10/04/2023 12:49

Has anyone seen the new video of the Dalai Llama asking a child to suck his tongue. Yes. It sounds bizarre. But it is in the news right now. The video is out there. And the dalai llama is apologising on social media now

Im devastated! I went to see the Dalai Llama in India. He gave a speech on accepting and loving everyone, and that it didn't matter what religion we are. I always told people that it was one of the highlights of my life.

I went through life thinking he was a good person, that he was one of the good ones. To see this today, makes me think oh no is he yet another abuser.

Some people have remarked about this video that sticking your tongue out at someone is a greeting in Tibet.

However - the Dalai Llama kisses the child on the lips in the video, and asks the child to suck his tongue. It does not look right at all.

He has apologised on twitter now.

What do you all think?

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SunshineOceanAndOranges · 13/04/2023 18:10

I am no theologist but when it comes to organised religion, whichever one we're talking about, I keep thinking of Jesus's words: 'my Kingdom is not of this world'.
Then why did men set up bloated powerful organisations like the Christian churches?...

L3ThirtySeven · 13/04/2023 18:25

SunshineOceanAndOranges · 13/04/2023 18:10

I am no theologist but when it comes to organised religion, whichever one we're talking about, I keep thinking of Jesus's words: 'my Kingdom is not of this world'.
Then why did men set up bloated powerful organisations like the Christian churches?...

Here is the full passage you are referencing from John 18:
”33 So Pilate entered his headquarters again and called Jesus and said to him, “Are you the King of the Jews?” 34 Jesus answered, “Do you say this of your own accord, or did others say it to you about me?” 35 Pilate answered, “Am I a Jew? Your own nation and the chief priests have delivered you over to me. What have you done?” 36 Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not from the world.” 37 Then Pilate said to him, “So you are a king?” Jesus answered, “You say that I am a king. For this purpose I was born and for this purpose I have come into the world—to bear witness to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth listens to my voice.” 38 Pilate said to him, “What is truth?” After he had said this, he went back outside to the Jews and told them, “I find no guilt in him.”

As for why Christianity got big, it is because Jesus told them to:
Mark 16:15
“He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.”
Matthew 28:19
”Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,..”
Paul letter to Colossians 1:23
”if indeed you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope of the gospel you heard, which has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant.”

pickledandpuzzled · 13/04/2023 18:32

I think the earthly establishment of the church may have been a product of the Roman Empire. The early church was an underground network more than a building and robes.

L3ThirtySeven · 13/04/2023 18:49

pickledandpuzzled · 13/04/2023 18:32

I think the earthly establishment of the church may have been a product of the Roman Empire. The early church was an underground network more than a building and robes.

The early Roman Church certainly spread within the Roman Empire, no doubt facilitated by common language, good roads, established shipping lanes, high literacy. It’s true it was a cult at first and underground because it was seen as a political threat.

But that was not the only early Christian church. The Syriatic church (East and South of the Roman Empire) was much larger and wholly outside the Roman Empire. In fact their Bible, the Peshitta Bible, is the closest to the original Bible written. Peshitta is Syriatic for “Common” as in most widely used.

After the fall of the Western Roman Empire, Christianity really starts branching off!

L3ThirtySeven · 13/04/2023 18:53

I fear I am derailing. I will stop. I just find religion to be fascinating and love reading about religions prehistoric, ancient and modern.

pickledandpuzzled · 13/04/2023 18:57

I Must admit I saw the romans as just the kind of organisers that would like titles, roles, and hierarchies. Oh, and a nice building too!

L3ThirtySeven · 13/04/2023 19:06

pickledandpuzzled · 13/04/2023 18:57

I Must admit I saw the romans as just the kind of organisers that would like titles, roles, and hierarchies. Oh, and a nice building too!

They definitely did. And the Romans were a unique society when you look at how their religion (the pagan one) was intertwined with politics. Many preisthoods were elected political positions that you would campaign for! Just a glance at the bio of Julius Ceasar…general, emperor…and high priest over the vestal virgins? WTF? Yes he did that as a job, like an MP of Virginity. He had to work up to that though, he had a lower preist type job of feeding sacred geese earlier in his career.

The whole idea of church and state being separate, that was alien to the Romans.

Tomorrowillbeachicken · 13/04/2023 19:09

Consent all over the place with even the kiss. Smashed to pieces with sucking the tongue

MyDarlingClementine · 13/04/2023 19:20

Watch keep sweet on Netflix.
It's the basis of all religion.

GingerbreadBaking · 13/04/2023 21:47

Much of Britain became illiterate after the fall of Rome. They had to be taught all over again. A Britain St Patrick educated the Irish and they in turn educated the British again.

L3ThirtySeven · 14/04/2023 08:25

GingerbreadBaking · 13/04/2023 21:47

Much of Britain became illiterate after the fall of Rome. They had to be taught all over again. A Britain St Patrick educated the Irish and they in turn educated the British again.

Yes. And St Patrick and other post Western Roman Empire Fall early church leaders founded the Celtic Christian Church which was different from the earlier Roman church (which went on to be called the Roman Catholic, or Catholic Church). The Celtic Christian Church reintroduced British and Irish religious concepts like priests should marry, and also reinstated some of the status of women so that they could be priests as well as men (although they often functioned as junior priests, but still were called “con-hospitae” or co-celebrants for mass, baptism and such which is what you would call another ordained priest, not a lay assistant like an altar boy.)

Some crusades by the Roman Catholic Church were specifically to eradicate other forms of Christianity in Europe and the East. They showed no mercy to what they considered to be heretics and apostates. And they were far more patriarchal.

Sudeko · 14/04/2023 09:13

$150m net worth - I'll sign up tp that kind of 'poor'!!

SheptonMallet · 14/04/2023 10:19

A different perspective:

MarshaBradyo · 14/04/2023 10:20

Sudeko · 14/04/2023 09:13

$150m net worth - I'll sign up tp that kind of 'poor'!!

Did a pp day he’d given up his wealth? Not scrolling back but thought it odd at the time

TokyoStories · 14/04/2023 11:28

SheptonMallet · 14/04/2023 10:19

A different perspective:

Great video.

L3ThirtySeven · 14/04/2023 12:03

Oli is incorrect. The Dalai Lama has no money. His net worth is reported at $1 on all reputable news sources because they can’t put zero in that data field.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/is-the-dalai-lama-rich-details-on-the-tibetan-leader/ar-AA19Gnbz

The sources that claim $150m have added up the cash awards he’s gotten and proceeds from his books all of which he has 100% donated.

They did the same to Greta Thunberg if you recall, claimed she had millions from her awards and she had to set the record straight saying she’d kept none of the money. But sadly as studies have proven, fake news travels faster than real news and is more likely to be believed because it is retweeted so often, it dominates the search engine results.

MSN

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/is-the-dalai-lama-rich-details-on-the-tibetan-leader/ar-AA19Gnbz

L3ThirtySeven · 14/04/2023 12:10

SheptonMallet · 14/04/2023 10:19

A different perspective:

Thank you for posting.

Sudeko · 14/04/2023 13:21

I bet the truth lies somewhere in the middle around the $75m mark perhaps 😆

BirdChirp · 14/04/2023 13:36

Good video.

It's pretty long so TLDR - 'eat my tongue' and the kissing on forehead and mouth is a game Tibetan grandparents sometimes play with the kids. The edited version which does not show the lead up and afterwards (so making the tongue part look worse than it was) is probably an effort from China to discredit Buddhism, following the recent choosing of a Mongolian boy to be a Buddhist spiritual leader, which China does not like.

TrombonesAreNotBones · 15/04/2023 09:13

How strange that I can no online reference to the Tibetan tradition of playing 'eat my tongue' dated prior to April 2023. How very strange: almost like someone decided to globally distribute the details of a game that had previously not ever been documented. What a coincidence, don't you think?

Thesharkradar · 15/04/2023 12:35

BirdChirp · 14/04/2023 13:36

Good video.

It's pretty long so TLDR - 'eat my tongue' and the kissing on forehead and mouth is a game Tibetan grandparents sometimes play with the kids. The edited version which does not show the lead up and afterwards (so making the tongue part look worse than it was) is probably an effort from China to discredit Buddhism, following the recent choosing of a Mongolian boy to be a Buddhist spiritual leader, which China does not like.

Just to be clear ...your post is satirical?

GingerbreadBaking · 15/04/2023 12:40

TrombonesAreNotBones · 15/04/2023 09:13

How strange that I can no online reference to the Tibetan tradition of playing 'eat my tongue' dated prior to April 2023. How very strange: almost like someone decided to globally distribute the details of a game that had previously not ever been documented. What a coincidence, don't you think?

Indeed

pickledandpuzzled · 15/04/2023 14:36

There seem to be quite a lot of responses agreeing. I'm not sure that it should be disbelieved, any more than we assume the Chinese are behind the editing and release of the video.

www.vice.com/en/article/jg5854/tibetans-explain-what-suck-my-tongue-means-dalai-lama-viral-video

I did come across a study on the development of compassion in children aged 3-5, which suggests that the community in exile where DL lives does have schools and so is not purely an enclave of adult monks.

TrombonesAreNotBones · 15/04/2023 15:12

pickledandpuzzled · 15/04/2023 14:36

There seem to be quite a lot of responses agreeing. I'm not sure that it should be disbelieved, any more than we assume the Chinese are behind the editing and release of the video.

www.vice.com/en/article/jg5854/tibetans-explain-what-suck-my-tongue-means-dalai-lama-viral-video

I did come across a study on the development of compassion in children aged 3-5, which suggests that the community in exile where DL lives does have schools and so is not purely an enclave of adult monks.

Thank you for the link. I find it extraordinary that this commonplace cultural practice - 'eat my tongue' practised by grandparents it seems - has only been documented in 2023. The tongue out greeting is wellknown and widely documented.

Can anyone explain this? I am at a loss, truly. Thank you.

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