Dalai llama ask a child to suck his tongue

[Mooshamoo]

Has anyone seen the new video of the Dalai Llama asking a child to suck his tongue. Yes. It sounds bizarre. But it is in the news right now. The video is out there. And the dalai llama is apologising on social media now

Im devastated! I went to see the Dalai Llama in India. He gave a speech on accepting and loving everyone, and that it didn't matter what religion we are. I always told people that it was one of the highlights of my life.

I went through life thinking he was a good person, that he was one of the good ones. To see this today, makes me think oh no is he yet another abuser.

Some people have remarked about this video that sticking your tongue out at someone is a greeting in Tibet.

However - the Dalai Llama kisses the child on the lips in the video, and asks the child to suck his tongue. It does not look right at all.

He has apologised on twitter now.

What do you all think?

You are so forgetful of the facts. I posted this the first time you tried to say this is exactly like Jimmy Savile.

Jimmy Savile was 84 when he died, not when he was questioned by the police.

He was questioned by the police repeatedly starting in 1958 at age 32 and then several other times over the decades.

Hardly his “latter years/months”
I see you inventing parallels that do not exist.
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No one on this thread has excused child abuse.

I agree. It’s quite bizarre actually.

Actually it’s you who has failed to comprehend what Myopic is saying.

One of the last sexual offences by Jimmy Savile was in 2009, when he was 83.

Myopic is saying Jimmy was abusing women in his 80s, which shows how wrong you and others are by saying men in their 80s aren’t sexual predators.

Do you have evidence of this? Because the only police record from 2009 I can find was the CPS dropping the investigation into an allegation made in 2008 of him abusing girls in the 1970s. That’s abuse done in his 40s, not in his 80s.

And how odd that you are saying he was 83 in 2009 but only 84 in 2011 when he died…either he’s a Time Lord or one would think you’re flying by the skin of your arse and not fact checking just like Myopic.

No one has said that men in their 80s aren’t sexual predators. That’s simply yet another smear.

From The Guardian - 2009 was the date of the last offence recorded by the investigation.

Savile was born in 1926 so by my rough maths that made him 83 in 2009. There is no exact date for the 2009 offence.

If you want to be more precise about his age, I’m happy to be corrected.

You’ve accused people of ‘slandering’ the DL for saying it was sexual abuse and have used the defence that as a man in his 80s the sexual abuse is due to dementia not sexually predatory behaviour.

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2009: Savile is interviewed under caution by Surrey police investigating an alleged indecent assault at Duncroft school. The CPS advised there was insufficient evidence to take any further action. This was the year of the last offence recorded by the current investigation.

Also here

Savile preyed on the vulnerable almost to the end – his last known victim was in 2009 when he was 82.

https://www.getreading.co.uk/news/local-news/sickening-extent-jimmy-saviles-sex-7337595

He like other children who have been proclaimed to be reincarnations have grown up in a weird setting raised by monks. There was a documentary about the Tibetan Grand Lama who actually opened up having been abused by older monks as a child. There is a bit of a romanticised view of Tibetan 'gentle monks'. There are just as many predators among them as in other settings and I would not leave my kids alone with them!

Completely agree what a weird - and in fact cruel way to choose and bring up future spiritual leaders. I was reading about the Dalai Lamas own proclaimation earlier when he was only 2 and a half

• when the officials came looking [location based on portents from dreams. visions, which way the previous DL was facing at his death, the direction of smoke from his funeral pyre etc etc] one of their leading questions to the local 'chief' in the area was to identify 'unusual children' born around the time of the previous DL's death- he already had a shortlist of 3 toddlers.

The 'unusual' characteristic of 'fearlessness' seemed to be his high energy. confidence and intelligence. He left his family to travel 1300 miles to Lhasa accompanied by an older brother and sister who were also incarnate lamas - it's not clear if he ever saw his parents other siblings family again but did have a lifelong close relationship with his lama sister who died in 2008 in India

The journey to Lhasa was delayed by 2 years because they were repeatedly detained then ransomed by Chinese militia/Muslim warlords - the actual journey took 10 weeks

His parents were honoured with high status, land and serfs - like you say pre-invasion Tibet wasn't always great

I was going by the BBC:
“In May 2007 Surrey Police received an allegation that Savile had sexually assaulted a teenage girl at Duncroft Approved School in the 1970s.
During a police investigation two more allegations emerged - one from a girl who had been at Duncroft and the other from a girl who claimed he had sexually assaulted her at Stoke Mandeville Hospital. In October 2009, Savile was interviewed under caution and said all three allegations had been invented by the complainants, who he claimed were after money.”

and
”Sussex Police received a complaint in March 2008 that Savile had sexually assaulted a woman in a caravan in Sussex in 1970.
This was passed on to Surrey Police, who consulted with the CPS about all four allegations but decided in October 2009 no prosecution could be brought because the victims would not support police action.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20992789

And Wikipedia.

You’ve accused people of ‘slandering’ the DL for saying it was sexual abuse

Thats not true. The conversation I had with you, and only you went like this:

I said that in response in this conversation with you
L3ThirtySeven · 10/04/2023 13:40
Ever again. This is probably the first sign he has dementia. He should be quietly retired from public life now.

ananass · 10/04/2023 13:45
He doesn’t have dementia. And i wouldn’t be surprised if more people come forward now. This reminds me of Gandhi sleeping naked with children to show he was not tempted to abuse them.

ananass · 10/04/2023 13:46
You think if you keep repeating he has dementia, it will become fact. It won’t, we see through you. Would you leave your child alone with him?

L3ThirtySeven · 10/04/2023 13:51
It is a fact that this incident is a common symptom of dementia. I don’t see why you are so invested in denying this. My grandfather had dementia at age 76 and developed sexually inappropriate behaviours as a result of his dementia. This is common. This isn’t some rare thing. No I wouldn’t leave my child alone with any 87 year old! Are you quite mad? They’re often losing their marbles, are frail and and not nearly mobile enough to care for a child at that age.

ananass · 10/04/2023 13:55
“There have been no reports the DL has dementia. Stop minimising sexual abuse. You wouldn’t leave your child with him because you know your child would be at risk of sexual assault. Do you think a young Indian boy is fair game?“

L3ThirtySeven · 10/04/2023 14:01
“There have been no reports that the Dalai Lama is a pedophile either, so stop slandering him. I wouldn’t leave my child with him because he is at least 87yrs old. This incident brings into question his declining mental capacity, which is not an uncommon thing to see at his age. Most people his age are in a care home wearing incontinence pads and thinking it’s 1985.”

Yes, I did ask you to stop with the Dalai Lama is a definite pedophile, because that is slander when so little facts are known. You took this one incident and conflated it with sleeping naked with children FFS! But you didn’t cover yourself in glory in this conversation, you:

• accused me of minimising sexual abuse
• said “we see though you” which was nasty and implied I’m some sort of sexual pervert, and
• implied that I’m a racist with the “Indian boy fair game” comment

and have used the defence that as a man in his 80s the sexual abuse is due to dementia not sexually predatory behaviour

Its not a defence, but an explanation and yes if he has dementia which statistically, is 34x more likely than him being a pedophile, then due to the nature of the disease his actions cannot be sexually predatory behaviour because sexual predation requires intent and sexual desire which is not the case when you have a person with dementia. It is called inappropriate sexual behaviour (ISB) by the medical profession and justice system for this reason- because dementia sufferers are not sexual predators. There is no intent and no sexual motives/desire behind their actions.

Bearing in mind this little boy was taken 80 odd years ago, I hope the selection of the next DL would be different- that he wouldn't be removed from his family, and that a more enlightened approach would be used.

It completely grossed me out. Whether it is some sort of tradition or not it is unacceptable. The older I get the less I have faith or trust in any of these people and I was a fan of his quotes too like you.

It's grim. It looks like the Dalai lama pulls the child's hand to his crotch in that video too.

@pickledandpuzzled yes it was a very long time ago and in a different world so hopefully there will be a more humane process when the current DL dies.

I know boisterous toddlers mature but in the posed pictures of him looking so sombre and serious look like a different child

Did you read the Guardian article that was posted upthread [around page 16] Tibet and China clash over the next reincarnation of the Dalai Lama'?

Other quite different possibilities are being explored and have been ongoing for a while - perhaps now with greater urgency after the recent events

If you exhibit pedophilic behaviours then you are a pedo. End of. It may be because of dementia, it may not be. Who cares apart from his diehard devotees like the two on here. He is still a pedo and we see him.

Why he is engaging in overly pedophilic behaviour is no consolation whatsoever to his child victims, nor should it be. Isn't he all about being judged for your actions? Well, he is acting criminally which means that he is a criminal.

I hope so too.

I find such blinkered absolutism very depressing. I don’t see why you even want an investigation like you say you do if the findings are a forgone conclusion in your mind as to the cause of the behaviour.

An investigation would only be useful in the absence of clear evidence of WHAT he did. Since we have clear evidence of WHAT he did, there aren't any facts to be established.

Within a corrupt legal system, an investigation would only benefit the perpetrator by allowing him to justify his pedophilic actions to reduce his punishment. It wouldn't help the children who have been victims. It might help to salvage the reputation of the DL and his movement which is why I expect you would like one.

An investigation in India would be utterly useless because it would be rigged in favour of a man who generates wealth via tourism and deprive the victims of the justice/compensation they would probably get within a less corrupt legal system.

Oh dear

New video of the DL appearing to touch Lady Gaga inappropriately during a TV interview on Twitter [sorry can't post the link] it's 9 hours ago @ OliLondonTV

Can't vouch for the this not being fake but of all the many many pics on Twitter of the DL it looks the most concerning

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https://twitter.com/OliLondonTV

Thank you

If social media can keep on exposing him then I'm all in. I think 'the age he developed dementia' claim is going to slide further and further backwards on the timeline until it becomes obvious that a thirty year old DL was not a sufferer. I fear that the life expectancy for the poor is low in Asia that many potential victims may no longer be alive.