Philip Schofield: As far as I am concerned, I no longer have a brother."

[DancingWithMashedPotato]

Philip Schofield's brother had now been convicted of sexual abuse with a young boy over a 3 yr period. Horrendous crime. Philip Schofield has now stated "As far as I am concerned, I no longer have a brother.""

Now, it's completely up to Philip how he responds to his brother in what must be a v v stressful time. I cast no judgement whatsoever, and his life in the public eye adds so many new dimensions for him that must be hard to handle.

However, his comments about no longer having a brother really cut deep and made me wonder how I'd react

I adore my siblings and I think (though obviously things might be different if it actually happened) that I couldn't bring myself to disown or abandon my brother's no matter what they did. I can imagine some very limited events which might lead to me not speaking to them for a bit, perhaps a v long time. But I think by and large, no matter what they did, however bad, while there are some things I couldn't forgive and maybe could never understand, I don't think I could disown them. AIBU?

What are your views? Are there some things you absolutely would disown your family for? Are there some generally agreed limits for what a person can tolerate from a family member before they are disowned. Is child abuse the line? Murder?

Appalling that PS was told about child abuse by the actual paedophile and PS did nothing to protect children.

I also wondered that, and we talked about it tonight. I love all my family and can't believe I would cut them off totally - but then I also don't believe they would ever do anything like that. So it's hard to really know.

Also there are differing levels of crime. I might cope with some better than others. So hard to know - irl this must be something people do have to cope with from time to time, and it must be horrendous.

Philip Schofield - can't stand the bloke and of course he will say and do whatever he feels best serves his career!

Teenagehorrorbag not all of us love our siblings.

Why the sudden distancing NOW??
Looks like a panicked reaction to a disturbing crime.

If that's the case, it's really bad.

I'm pretty much NC with one of my siblings - at their instigation. This sibling has an unreasonable degree of hatred towards another sibling, for no actual reason, who would nowadays be regarded as having additional needs. and vulnerable. Never been able to work, never had a relationship even, never mind having a child of their own.

Has suffered breakins when they have been beaten up etc. Couple of years ago around Christmas, scumbags broke in and beat the crap out of them, and fled with nothing. Complete strangers were so kind. Horrible sibling didn't even phone to see if they were ok. Pulled sibling up on this and they have gone NC since. Completely ignoring me and my children with whom they previously had a relationship with.

Horrible sibling and her equally horrible H have very responsible positions in the community. I do wonder sometimes if people really knew what they were capable of, how it would go.

Sometimes being a blood relative counts for nothing. I would respect PS more if he said how much he abhorred the crime but struggled with the fact that his own brother is the perpetrator. Love the sinner but hate the sin, kind of thing.

It is the case. He testified in court that his brother told him about the abuse in 2021.

Where have I said I have sympathy for a paedophile? Nowhere.

I have said that I would hate the crime, that no crime is ok, that abuse is deplorable and horrendous..I have said that I would be pleased to see the perpetrator face the consequences of their crime and go to prison.

My OP is simply just questioning whether I could disown a sibling for having committed a serious crime. I don't know if I would go so far as to say or feel 'i no longer have a brother'. But maybe I would. I don't know. But a big part of me feels that even if it was me that shopped my brother to the police (which I would do if I found out they'd committed a serious crime), and even if what they did was horrendous. I still think I would b there for them in some way. Maybe visit them in prison (perhaps not initially as I think I'd be too angry and feel too sick about what they'd done.) If I was too devastated by what they'd done to see them again, I still don't think I'd completely disown them. I don't think I could say 'they are not my brother'. Because, well, they are and would still be related to me..I don't think I could completely disown. But I don't know.

I was wondering other people's thoughts and where the line is for people to disown family and many have responded to the thread and said they would disown a sibling for serious crimes like child abuse. There has been more dissonance around disowning children.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-31643791
This is what happens when people are told about child abuse and paedophiles but choose to do nothing about it, ignoring the victims.

@DancingWithMashedPotato
You say/blame all cases on trauma.

You’re factually incorrect on that.

In some of your posts you seem to even minimalise and excuse the horrific offence.

Perhaps in your job, you’ve had too many chats and cups of tea with offenders, that you’ve become immune to the dark reality of the horrendous crime.

This.

I’d disown mine for abuse of any kind including bullying or slapping a dog or child.

If you couldn’t or wouldn’t “disown” a scumbag brother or not for sexually abusing a CHILD, there must be some sympathy at play for you to think that way. Sympathy because he’d be your brother & you’d feel bad to some extent. That’s what you’re saying. But in other words, let’s be honest here.

Imagine considering visiting a paedophile brother in prison. Couldn’t be me. Don’t care who I offend saying that. I’ve only just realised you mentioned that in your comment. Even though you’re speaking hypothetically, the fact you have them thoughts is bizarre. Only people I would give a shit about are the innocent children who has/had been sexually abused by a monster. If it was my brother I’d never ever speak of his name again. But that’s just me & nearly all of the Posters on here too.

We Need To Talk About Kevin - Lionel Shriver.

Absolutely harrowing.

Sibling, parent, cousin - absolutely I would disown. As for one of my children, I honestly couldn't say. Thankfully I haven't been in that position.

Wtf

Philip Schofield is 100% a hypocrite.

Sorry to break it to you but sisters can commit some heinous crimes too

OP I don’t believe for a second that PS has disowned his brother. He is in crisis management mode (he pays a company well enough to do this for him after all). All he is thinking about is getting back on the sofa and spinning that wheel after his Easter break

He didn’t disown him when he was arrested? Or when he knew what the evidence was? All for show! He lied to his wife for years. All for show and his reputation. Lied about the whole lying in state debacle. Did you see any other single presenter walk past that coffin unless they’d queued for hours? I won’t use the word reporter as that would demean all those real journalists.

Data does not tell a full picture. If there is data that shows for example, that only half of offenders have faced trauma, that doesn't really tell us much. It just tells us what the measures (often self report) have found. I am simply reporting on my experieimce, which is that I have never worked with any offender (of any type to be honest) that has not experienced trauma, neglect or abuse. And I've worked with a great many.

I have worked with several people convicted of sexual crimes against children who told me initially they had lovely lives, were not abused etc.. had not experienced any trauma. If asked on some research questionnaire or government survey if they had experienced trauma or abuse, they'd have said no. Only after a some time of getting to know these people did they start to disclose the abuse they had suffered as children.. However, rarely was it "I was abused as a kid". More often it was disclosures of behaviour they saw as normal or acceptable or even desired or deserved by them in someway. In a few cases they did not see that having been raped as a small child themself meant they had been abused. Hence why they would not have disclosed any abuse or trauma. Some blamed themselves and thought this is normal or what they wanted. Some had been told it was their fault and they asked for it, and they believed this. All the various warped cognitions people may have established from such events early in childhood were deeply connected to their later offending behaviour, and justifications for acts they committed as adults.

EXACTLY.

The Schofields sound bad news all round.

I could disown anyone but my own son. I don’t think it could ever be possible for me not to love him.

PS groomed, assaulted and abused a young man (very close to being underage).
When his behaviour was exposed he cried wolf and vilified work colleagues and individuals. He threw that young man under the bus and put his career-influenced colleagues in an impossible situation and then chose to put the spotlight on his long suffering wife and family. He is a narcissistic, abusive self-centred male and the apple didn't fall far from the family tree here. Far enough too be legal .. but close enough. Vile man and anyone who apologises for him is complicit.

Interesting piece in the Mail just now. Over-the-top stressing now much he is loved in this morning by colleagues and how devastated and worried everyone is for him.
Hmm. Not what I've heard.

Eww pass the sick bucket. Vile man. Twitter and tattle are gunning for him.. GOOD 👍