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At what age do you ask a woman....

167 replies

LilacRain12 · 02/04/2023 12:30

If she has kids?
There's a girl of 20 years old at work and she was asked if she had any children the other day. Felt that was a bit young to be asked. I wouldn't ask anyone under 23 personally.

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yogaretreat · 03/04/2023 07:36

I don't ask. I know too many women who have challenges and it's heartbreaking.

I would wait for someone to volunteer the information before having a chat about it.

Jonei · 03/04/2023 07:38

MNbingo · 03/04/2023 01:54

As a childfree by choice person, it doesn’t really annoy me as I haven’t been directly asked, but I do get annoyed by the whole, “Kids! You know what they’re like etc” assumption . Well yeah, I do, hence never wanting any. But I’m too polite to say that 😂

I can't see that it matters if you did say that. Its not actually offensive is it. Most people would just laugh.

VestaTilley · 03/04/2023 07:38

You don’t. It’s none of your business unless she tells you.

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 03/04/2023 07:45

I wouldn't assume anyone has children.

Anyfeckinusername · 03/04/2023 07:46

@MoongazyHare I am talking about in a work setting. I worked in a huge multinational, we were mostly a similar age and grew up in there.

I can see it's really upsetting to people in while going through their own personal traumas, so I apologise if that's insensitive of me. But I do find it's a reality of work particularly as working from home is now accommodated. Not in a big "let's have a chat" but it is casually mentioned.

RaininginDarling · 03/04/2023 07:52

EyesOnThePies · 03/04/2023 07:34

I’m betting no one would have asked a 20 yo man that.

Pretty certain it's not the go-to question for a man of any age.

Although the vast majority of adults do become parents, fathers are not defined by being one. I imagine this is probably due to the burden of parenting landing squarely with women in most cases

I'd rather ask so how do you spend your days? What do you like to do when you have spare time? What's your second favourite animal? 😄 How do you know (X)?

Generally speaking, I try and ask pretty open questions and see where we go.

Srin · 03/04/2023 08:04

JudgeRudy · 02/04/2023 14:03

You ask as if it's an almost obligatory question. Why not wait and let the conversation unfold naturally.
I have a silly game I play. When new acquaintances ask me about children at the beginning of a conversation it kind of grates. So I just answer differently each time. The conversation always follows a script...
Yes, 2 boys
How old?
12 and 15
Oh they must be a handful...

Yes just the one
Oh, boy or girl
Daughter, she's 7
Oh lovely age

Yes 3
Oh you've got your hands full

Yes 2 lots of twins
Oh you've got your hands full/l always wanted twins/my cousin has twins

Endless combinations but one they've established ghe gender and ages the conversation goes nowhere. I've 'had' triplets

I've never quite got round to asking Why do you ask? Or perhaps ask back if they have a dishwasher or a degree (establishing common ground?)

This is so strange.

ananass · 03/04/2023 09:58

Surely2023IsTheYearForMyRainbowBaby · 02/04/2023 18:45

It triggers me. After year and years of infertility and 5 miscarriages. It's a question I hate or dread been asked.

This. Learn some sensitivity people!

Lcb123 · 03/04/2023 10:00

You never 'need' to ask anyone. I would never ask colleagues about their family situations, it's inappropriate - you have no idea what they are going through. And no one asks men. I'd only ask if they bring it up

JamSandle · 03/04/2023 10:05

I wouldn't ask at all as I suspect it'd come up in conversation naturally by them if they wanted to talk about it.

Tryphenia · 03/04/2023 10:15

I started a job in September, and the only colleagues I know for sure are parents are the one who was on paternity leave when I arrived, the HoD, who is a neighbour with a 17 year old who once babysat my DS, and the one who had to bring a toddler in an emergency. Oh, and a colleague my age I vaguely assumed didn’t have a child because from things she said, it was clearly only her and her husband living at home and going on holiday together — but it turns out from a conversation last week, she has a son in his thirties and currently living in Finland, having got pregnant in her teens. It just didn’t come up. I’d imagine most colleagues don’t know whether I’m a parent or not.

KimberleyClark · 03/04/2023 10:21

Jonei · 03/04/2023 07:38

I can't see that it matters if you did say that. Its not actually offensive is it. Most people would just laugh.

Oh I’ve seen people on here being accused of being smug when they say “that’s why I never had kids”.

IDontWantToBeAPie · 03/04/2023 14:17

I mean if you mean what's a likely age... the average age in the UK for a first child is now 31 years old. So even 23 is pretty young to assume.

Jonei · 03/04/2023 16:13

KimberleyClark · 03/04/2023 10:21

Oh I’ve seen people on here being accused of being smug when they say “that’s why I never had kids”.

It doesn't really make sense though when people who have actively chosen to have kids accuse those who don't of being smug.

slowquickstep · 03/04/2023 16:20

MrsHughesPinny · 02/04/2023 23:42

@slowquickstep If I was going to make small talk with a new colleague I’d ask about their previous job/ educational background and hobbies or interests. I wouldn’t feel great about being asked about my personal circumstances or relationships by unknown colleagues.

You obviously don't live on the SW coast of Scotland, no subject is off limits, no offence is taken and people just chat without a care. We are pretty hardy and don't have the collywobbles because someone asked a very simple question about our lives.

Inthesamesinkingboat · 03/04/2023 16:24

Why would you ask a woman and not a man?

DontGoJasonWaterfalls · 03/04/2023 16:29

I didn't mind being asked at 20, because I had a 1 year old. It reassured me that I wouldn't have people saying "ooh you're far too young to have a child, ooh I couldn't do it" which I had to put up with in several places 🙄

However I'd agree that in general, just don't ask. Why would you?

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