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AIBU to be a little miserable

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NotEspeciallyHappyValley · 02/04/2023 08:27

We are supposed to be flying out this afternoon on a big family holiday. First big holiday since our plans were cancelled in April 2020 - and with us both working in the NHS we could do with the break

Unfortunately DP has started with a migraine this morning. Happens once every few months. Severe headache, paracetamol and ibuprofen not touching it. Doesn’t look like we can fly today - and no flights tomorrow

Obviously we are all a bit pissed off about this - but DP has just told me off for being miserable and said I need to snap out of this. Given this is a much wanted holiday - and we’ll probably not be covered by insurance for this - am I allowed to wallow in a little misery?

OP posts:
ProbablyNotAGoodIdea · 02/04/2023 16:14

HangerLaneGyratorySystem · 02/04/2023 16:12

Sorry wasn't clear - I DO appreciate how ill you can be with migraine, so I'd be looking for someone to keep an eye out like a relative or a friend, but I still think the sufferer would be VERY keen for her family to go. We hear a lot about selfish dads on here and if it was reversed, the OP were female and it was the DH in bed with migraine, the male partner would be generally villified.

The wife has been called incredibly selfish and a drama queen in quite a few posts, so don't worry, vilification has still occurred.

BellePeppa · 02/04/2023 16:16

Glitterblue · 02/04/2023 15:58

I was going to say exactly this. The people saying he should just “tough it out”, or “why can’t he fly?” clearly have no idea what real migraines are like. I have tried to “tough them out” in the past to make it through a day at work. The last one I remember doing that with ended up with me having to bolt out of a meeting, run down 2 flights of stairs to the toilet and didn’t quite make it before I vomited everywhere on my way into the bathroom. It wasn’t even my workplace, it was an external meeting. I also tried to make it through Christmas day at my parents’ with one, for the sake of everyone else, and ended up spending the day in my mum and dad’s bed because I just couldn’t be up.

I get them every few weeks and can’t do a thing when I have them now - they’re so bad I really can’t even attempt to do anything. I can barely lift my head off the pillow, I can’t talk properly - my speech gets slurred - I can’t walk in a straight line and I’m at risk of vomiting even if I just get up for the toilet. I’m on prescription medication and they’re still this bad. There is absolutely no way I could get to an airport and onto a plane.

Migraines are just so evil and ruin things all over the place and it’s horrible. I really really feel for you OP, it’s an awful situation. If you’re able to, I’d go today and let him follow when he can.

This is exactly how it affects me, I feel so ill and am in so much pain I can’t function. When my children were younger my mum had to come round and take over. When I had a hysterectomy a few years ago I thought I may not get them anymore (I thought they might somehow be connected to gynae stuff) but unfortunately not, they’re still here. Saying man up or woman up, go to sleep on the plane etc cannot be advice from people who suffer badly from it. (Of course OP’s wife might be someone who doesn’t get it as bad as that, I don’t know).

menopausalbloat · 02/04/2023 16:17

BellePeppa · 02/04/2023 16:09

She may not be able to sleep, I struggle to sometimes when I have a migraine. She should let them go ahead of her though and she can meet up with them, I hope she’s not willing to cancel her families entire holiday because of it. I get very bad migraines which tend to last about two days, after that I’m absolutely fine and raring to go.

Yeah, I get them for a few days usually. They're much more frequent now I'm in perimenopause.
I'd have to be hospitalized before I refused a holiday though, but I do realise that people deal with pain differently.

JimnJoyce · 02/04/2023 16:32

if i woke up with a migraine on the morning i was due to go in holiday that afternoon I def wouldn't make the flight due to vomiting every 20 minutes for 6-8 hrs usually with diarrhoea too. However I would be telling my family to go without me and hopefully following on a couple of days later.

HangerLaneGyratorySystem · 02/04/2023 16:34

I think there are two issues here - first of all, yes its definitely possible that OP's wife is so unwell that she cannot leave the house at all.

But secondly, if someone can be asked to keep an eye on her, then I would think the OP and his family can definitely go and I would assume that any mum would insist on her kids going. Wouldn't you?

I realise they've either left or missed the flight now, but just asking in principle, would you insist your DP took the kids?

Blueberry111 · 02/04/2023 16:47

I know someone who's husband started getting migraines on a holiday...and for several months after once they were back. They did a scan and found a brain tumour, they said it's left them with sad memories of that holiday as it's then when it started.

Kisskiss · 02/04/2023 16:51

Migraines can be hell- pain like you can’t really imagine for a ‘headache’ nausea, difficulty with vision and sound sensitivity.. if someone started whinging at me in the middle of one k would also tell them to buzz off.. it’s not her fault this is happening and this is probably not the best time to be complaining at her given she is also missing out on her holiday!!!

Azaleah · 02/04/2023 16:53

Being a migraine sufferer, I know that one of the triggers is precisely a change in routine, like holidays.

Preventive medication usually works.

If he doesn't know that, next time he can sort it out.

I would go without him this time.

Lougle · 02/04/2023 17:44

I get bad migraines. I'm very lucky that I don't actually vomit, but I get all the associated symptoms (brain fog, headache, jaw/teeth/nose pain, heavy head, intense neck and shoulder pain, word mixing, noise sensitivity, etc. Etc).

I take a combination of drugs including CGRP inhibitor injections. However, you've said that your DP doesn't have formal treatment so I would try:

Strong coffee with sugar (caffeine reduces inflammation)
900 mg dissolvable Aspirin (unless unsuitable - check contraindications) in 1 can full sugar, full caffeine, branded coke.
Paracetamol and codeine (can cause rebound headaches but you say that she only needs it 4 times per year).
Travel sickness pills.
Ice pack for forehead and heat pack for back of neck.
Ear plugs and sunglasses. Switch to eye mask once on plane.
Supporting neck pillow for flight/car journey.

She's going to feel crap wherever she is. It may as well be somewhere nice.

Forgooodnesssakenow · 02/04/2023 19:18

Glitterblue · 02/04/2023 15:58

I was going to say exactly this. The people saying he should just “tough it out”, or “why can’t he fly?” clearly have no idea what real migraines are like. I have tried to “tough them out” in the past to make it through a day at work. The last one I remember doing that with ended up with me having to bolt out of a meeting, run down 2 flights of stairs to the toilet and didn’t quite make it before I vomited everywhere on my way into the bathroom. It wasn’t even my workplace, it was an external meeting. I also tried to make it through Christmas day at my parents’ with one, for the sake of everyone else, and ended up spending the day in my mum and dad’s bed because I just couldn’t be up.

I get them every few weeks and can’t do a thing when I have them now - they’re so bad I really can’t even attempt to do anything. I can barely lift my head off the pillow, I can’t talk properly - my speech gets slurred - I can’t walk in a straight line and I’m at risk of vomiting even if I just get up for the toilet. I’m on prescription medication and they’re still this bad. There is absolutely no way I could get to an airport and onto a plane.

Migraines are just so evil and ruin things all over the place and it’s horrible. I really really feel for you OP, it’s an awful situation. If you’re able to, I’d go today and let him follow when he can.

I get full blown, at times hemiplegic migraines, all the neurological symptoms and pain. I struggle to string a sentence and therefore struggle to work. Could I make it through an airport and a big sleep on a long haul flight? Abso fucking likely. Especially if the kids were self sufficient

Mirabai · 02/04/2023 19:55

Glitterblue · 02/04/2023 15:58

I was going to say exactly this. The people saying he should just “tough it out”, or “why can’t he fly?” clearly have no idea what real migraines are like. I have tried to “tough them out” in the past to make it through a day at work. The last one I remember doing that with ended up with me having to bolt out of a meeting, run down 2 flights of stairs to the toilet and didn’t quite make it before I vomited everywhere on my way into the bathroom. It wasn’t even my workplace, it was an external meeting. I also tried to make it through Christmas day at my parents’ with one, for the sake of everyone else, and ended up spending the day in my mum and dad’s bed because I just couldn’t be up.

I get them every few weeks and can’t do a thing when I have them now - they’re so bad I really can’t even attempt to do anything. I can barely lift my head off the pillow, I can’t talk properly - my speech gets slurred - I can’t walk in a straight line and I’m at risk of vomiting even if I just get up for the toilet. I’m on prescription medication and they’re still this bad. There is absolutely no way I could get to an airport and onto a plane.

Migraines are just so evil and ruin things all over the place and it’s horrible. I really really feel for you OP, it’s an awful situation. If you’re able to, I’d go today and let him follow when he can.

This is so irritating - like teenagers who think they discovered sex and pop music. We all know what ‘real’ migraines are like thanks, I’ve been having them for 30 years.

Why you would go to a work meeting with migraine without a sick bag I’ve no idea.

Your migraines sound very similar to mine, despite this I have made a decision in the past to get on a flight because I might as well being sitting in on plane with my eye mask as lying in bed. I’m not going to feel any better in bed, the day will be shit whatever.

Mirabai · 02/04/2023 19:57

Forgooodnesssakenow · 02/04/2023 19:18

I get full blown, at times hemiplegic migraines, all the neurological symptoms and pain. I struggle to string a sentence and therefore struggle to work. Could I make it through an airport and a big sleep on a long haul flight? Abso fucking likely. Especially if the kids were self sufficient

Snap.

Thindog · 02/04/2023 20:51

If you were actually in the middle of a full blown migraine, retching , vomiting repeatedly and possibly with diarrhoea, looking ashen and shaky, it's highly likely you would not be allowed to board the plane anyway.

L3ThirtySeven · 02/04/2023 21:22

Thindog · 02/04/2023 20:51

If you were actually in the middle of a full blown migraine, retching , vomiting repeatedly and possibly with diarrhoea, looking ashen and shaky, it's highly likely you would not be allowed to board the plane anyway.

Yep, I pointed this out earlier, and frankly there is no way I could travel with a migraine. Good on those that can take long haul flights with migraines, work with migraines, drive with migraines, take a fucking Migraleve and be ok in 45mins (which is mostly paracetamol in a fancy wrapper) blah blah. Yes their migraines are real too, but they are out of order to deny the lived experiences of those who suffer worse from them and are trying to make out like it’s ridiculous to not be able to travel with one.

Mirabai · 02/04/2023 21:51

It’s not a question of suffering “worse”. It’s just a different attitude to a long haul flight.

I can’t work with a migraine, my typing goes wrong, I can’t talk properly, I can’t drive with one. Triptans don’t work for me, Migraleve can sometimes take the edge off, but mostly it does nothing and anyway I often vomit them up.

But to get a taxi to Heathrow get though departure and onto a flight - with a hammering head, photophobia, aura, palpitations, nausea & vomiting I have done that. And so have people with far more serious conditions than migraines.

I have also developed a migraine when I was already en route on a 3 day journey from Italy. Spent a night vomiting in a Calais hotel as the ferry was cancelled due to bad weather, then a ferry trip on a rough sea with terrible seasickness to boot. I can tell you a plane was better than that.

But - I have a long term chronic illness so I’m used to toughing out illness & it raises the bar on how bad things have to be cancel.

bluetongue · 02/04/2023 22:18

I suffer migraines so know how awful they can be. There’s no way I’d cancel a family holiday because of one, even if I wasn’t well enough to travel.

I’ve read about people in the US going to A and E for something called a ‘migraine cocktail’. Not sure if anything similar is available in the UK and if there’s a private GP or clinic that could administer it. Worth a try I think.

Otherwise I wouldn’t need anyone to stay back and look after me. All I can do is lie in a dark room and try and sleep it off.

bluetongue · 02/04/2023 22:19

Oh and no way I could do a long haul flight with a full blown migraine. Short flights are bad enough. For me it literally feels as though someone is trying to stab me in my eye socket,

Lizzt2007 · 02/04/2023 23:03

L3ThirtySeven · 02/04/2023 12:33

I agree. Most of us have been balanced. Only a few have been clearly sexist. Maybe the saying applies that 1 negative thing has the weight of 10 positive things the way our brains work.

Most have been balanced, apart from the many that are still assuming that partner with migraine is male and being selfish, even though we know it's wife who's ill !!!

ProbablyNotAGoodIdea · 03/04/2023 01:37

Lizzt2007 · 02/04/2023 23:03

Most have been balanced, apart from the many that are still assuming that partner with migraine is male and being selfish, even though we know it's wife who's ill !!!

Loads of posters have called the wife selfish, also a drama queen, just read the thread.

emptythelitterbox · 03/04/2023 04:18

Thindog · 02/04/2023 20:51

If you were actually in the middle of a full blown migraine, retching , vomiting repeatedly and possibly with diarrhoea, looking ashen and shaky, it's highly likely you would not be allowed to board the plane anyway.

This is true too. I've seen passengers denied boarding for similar reasons as well as excessive crying, anxiety, etc.

GettingThereCharleyBear · 03/04/2023 04:43

I’d be fucking livid if someone boarded a flight with me while puking constantly - that’s not ok 🙄.

Changingplace · 03/04/2023 08:37

GettingThereCharleyBear · 03/04/2023 04:43

I’d be fucking livid if someone boarded a flight with me while puking constantly - that’s not ok 🙄.

The OP never said she was puking, just she felt queasy when she sat up, nobody was actually being sick.

L3ThirtySeven · 03/04/2023 08:43

Changingplace · 03/04/2023 08:37

The OP never said she was puking, just she felt queasy when she sat up, nobody was actually being sick.

She wasn’t vomiting because she wasnt moving. She was lying down in a dark room. The wave of nausea at gingerly sitting up is a clear sign that movement will result in puking. You’d know this if you had similar migraines.

L3ThirtySeven · 03/04/2023 08:44

Lizzt2007 · 02/04/2023 23:03

Most have been balanced, apart from the many that are still assuming that partner with migraine is male and being selfish, even though we know it's wife who's ill !!!

That is true, since I posted there has been an uptick of those sorts of posters. The one that sticks out was the one saying any male partner who did this would get a one way ticket out of their life as if migraines are a choice. 🙄

ProbablyNotAGoodIdea · 03/04/2023 08:52

L3ThirtySeven · 03/04/2023 08:44

That is true, since I posted there has been an uptick of those sorts of posters. The one that sticks out was the one saying any male partner who did this would get a one way ticket out of their life as if migraines are a choice. 🙄

There are plenty of posts blaming the woman, accusing her of not wanting to go, being manipulative to stop the rest of the family going, being selfish, being dramatic and on and on. Don't worry, it's not just the imaginary man getting it in the neck, she is too.