Dog attack: American Bulleys AGAIN (trigger warning)

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(Frequent name changer, not trying to be controversial)

6 year old mauled to unconsciousness in Manchester by a pack of 5 dogs reportedly American Bully’s. Although they’re still investigating.

How many more times? How long is this going to go on for before someone does something? It seems like absolute insanity. I struggle to make sense of this as in how we can tolerate this as a civilised society. It’s so preventable.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/girl-6-mauled-pack-dogs-26570151

The owner should be charged. ( reckless endangerment?? - or is that an American term )

What do you think should happen?

Lots of possibilities as others have suggested.

Ban them and any dogs bred historically for fighting that are particularly that powerful.
And/or licenses. Muzzles. Some sort of vetting for owners of these types of dogs. More enforcement.

Ban the bloody things. They’re not pets, they have no place in society

@Teder yes same story probably I've not followed the parents account but I watched some clips and the mum turned all the comments off for obvious reasons. I assume she's had a LOT of backlash because she states her baby was not left unattended which is impossible really. The dog looked to me as though it was trying to snap a little baby a few times... I couldn't believe the mum actually uploaded those videos.

The mum stated it was an American pitbull dog herself NOT a pitbull. They look very similar and I obviously don't know the difference.

Owners definitely need to take responsibility or the person leaving their kids with these type of dogs.

You can't just blame it all on the poor dogs. Humans are the ones to decide what and who the dog is around in the first place.

At the very least dogs should be required to be on a lead in a public place. We have had so many dogs go for the corgi we walk. They could just as easily go for a child.

I also think owners should have a licence and there should be stricter rules on how many dogs can be owned and certainly walked together. I think they often behave differently in a pack.

Guns/Knives don't kill people - People do

Some Americans demand the right to keep guns and (most of us) we, in the UK understand that 'your/their' freedom to own a gun goes against 'my/our' freedom to live without fear of being shot.

Animals that frequently kill humans without provocation, should not be housed in human homes, IMO. It's not the animal's fault but it is definitely thier human's responsibility

Whilst ever we allow this we are no better than America allowing people to own killing guns

Bet all the moaning fuckers would love the staffy to be the hard man’s dog of choice again. Now society has a real problem on its hands. Fucking horrid dogs.

What's the point of insurance? £100m 8sbt going to give me my arm back once a bully breed has gnawed it off. It's not going to console me if a dog kills my children.

All bully breeds need to be eradicated. This is ab easy solution.
I'd also ban breeds capable of serious mauling or maiming. We all know which breeds they are.

Ridiculous. Most of these attacks happen on sink estates in peoples own homes and gardens . The biggest danger is the bloody scum neighbours. The police attended this breeders house many times and this still happens . These dogs should be banned from meatheads and everyone would be safer .

All breeds capable of serious mauling?

So all dogs bigger than a spaniel then?

Bull breeds need to be banned.

There needs to be a no tolerance approach to a dog attack. As soon as one attacks it should be put to sleep- like that one that attacked the police horse, why is it not instantly destroyed? I know it is mainly the fault of the owner but it is already vicious and it is just a dog. Put the dog to sleep and massive fine for the owner, 10k or so. Immediate ban on owning animals and strictly enforcing that too.

Again. 😠

I tell you what I'd like to happen.. Round up all the pit bull descendants (that's what they are) and their scanky owners and stick them all in one compound and they can live happily vaping, talking incoherent English and mauling each other to death. Yes I'm in a bad mood this evening but I'm so sick of hearing about these repeated attacks knowing for every one we hear about, there's others we don't. It's only scummy, waster shit bags that own them, the country would be better off without them anyway.

@Kitchakerching this is genius completely behind this and I’m not being facetious it is one demographic and one only thick awful deadbeats that need to all be put together with their awful dogs

Funny that a few posters are calling for bully breeds to be banned.
It was a staffy that won an award in Crufts this year... a former police dog too.

The trouble is the people who own these dogs that are doing these kind of things are arseholes who won't obey the law.

I own a bull breed, not an XL bully, staffy x from a rescue centre. Because I am not an arsehole I've managed to own him and have him around children and other dogs for almost 13 years without incident.

He's never left alone with children. Not because I don't trust him because he's a large dog and you just never know.

He's not allowed off lead in the street, or to roam about doing whatever the fuck he wants to.

I don't encourage him to appear aggressive or use him in anyway to make people feel unsafe.

He's my pet. He's not a weapon. These people don't think that way.

They could take almost any large dog breed and turn them into a menace, because they are scum bags.

I wish there were more rules about dog ownership. I think it’s a huge responsibility (no matter what breed or where you get it) that isn’t taken seriously at all. Even outside of mauling children, I read about a child who fell in dog poo in the park and ended up seriously unwell. Things like that.

It would be good if there were proper dedicated services and more rules around breeding and selling of dogs, perhaps even necessity of licenses and criteria for dog ownership and more crack down on those who don’t follow rules. We live by the beach, and there are rules of certain months that dogs are not welcome on the beach (due to it being high season and a lot of holidaymakers and people). People don’t care a jot, they’re still there with their dogs running all about the place.

Welsh border Collies are recognised for their herding tendancies. These Bullys were bred for fighting, why do people bend over backwards to say it's not the breed that's the problem?

But unfortunately I don’t think banning one breed would solve the problem. These people would then just go out and buy Rottweilers, and when Rottweilers were banned they’d move on to GSDs, then the next dog and the next.

@AluckyEllie , a while back in Guernsey there were a couple dogs rampaging round a park, so the armed police rounded the dogs up and shot them on the spot, apparently on the State Vet's orders. The outrage was hilarious, the dogs had stopped being mean, how could the cops shoot them?!?

I don’t think staffy dogs are necessarily horrid. They’re quite popular where I am, we used to have a staffy, and she was a lovely dog. Very gentle and loving, despite not being the brightest. Despite that, I still never left her alone with small kids or let her run riot in public. But then I’d have been the same if I had a Labrador or a Jack Russell or any other dog. I think no matter how lovely the dog it is still a dog, and you can never trust it completely.

Yes, a campaign would be great. That campaign can end with 'Humans, you've made dogs your responsibility. If your dog kills or mauls someone, you will be held responsible for that action, and you'll be spending many fucking years in jail.'

I'd prefer it to say that you'll be shot on the spot, just like your dog will be, but that wouldn't go down well.

Good point.

Breeders are the problem. I’ve recently seen an XL Bully crossed with a German Shepherd. As a Staffie and GSD owner I really think this is a mix with potentially disastrous results. Especially given that this cross could attract dickhead owners.

I'm sorry for responsible owners but I think we've reached the point where registration and licence for owning dogs is required.

To those saying no point changing the law because these types will just ignore... well it would have given police power to act in this case.