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Child has dropped out of grammar school and I'm panicking

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ThatFraggle · 27/03/2023 09:21

DD 18 stopped going to school at the beginning of this year, she's meant to be writing A levels. She got good GCSEs moved to a grammar school during the pandemic. No bullying as far as we are aware. She is very outgoing and sociable and is still bubbly on the phone to her friends.

School have been round to the house. All sorts of meetings. She just says, 'I'll try to do better' then goes right back to what it was before.

She takes antidepressants but won't see a therapist. She says 'there aren't any'. We have Bupa. I called and they said since she's over 18 she has to do it herself but she won't.

She refuses to do chores. Her room is disgusting. You have to climb over piles of clothes. I go in there to get plates once they have run out in the house. She has a bathroom to herself and it's a state too. Never cleaned and I'm not doing it. (School didn't see her room, only downstairs which is normal)

She stays in bed all day, is up all night on the phone. She goes out on weekends with her friends and comes back on Monday.

We've stopped pocket money, stopped driving lessons. She doesn't care.

I've explained all her friends will finish school and be doing things and she'll get left behind. If she decides A levels are not for her then she needs to get a job or an apprenticeship. Since she was in primary school we've gone to like 50 different 'career talk' things. (Not arranged by school, just things I've found, like a charity called Stemettes) Scientists, astronauts, artists. All sorts. To get an idea of what sort of thing she might enjoy when she finishes school.

Today I said if she just goes to school from today to the end of the year I'll pay for her to travel regardless of grades. Just to go to school. She's still in bed. Offer off the table.

She said what she wants is for us to rent her a studio apartment and then she'll go to school. I said 1. We can't afford that, 2. That's why people go to school, get qualifications so they can do that for themselves.

It's just three of us here and her step father and I have rows. I said if she wants to go and live with a school friend for a few months we will pay for her expenses there for the 3 months until school ends. She says she wants her own flat.

I'm at my wit's end. My mum came over to speak to her from another city a few months ago. No change.

Her biological dad is a deadbeat who moved back abroad when she was in nursery. He has paid nothing and has little contact with her and has a new family, including a stepdaughter her age and two new babies. I imagine that's upsetting to her as he's on social media playing happy families.

I don't know what to do.

OP posts:
ThatFraggle · 31/03/2023 20:54

@Kennykenkencat

SHE is the one who said she wanted to leave home and sofa surf. I'm not the one who suggested that.

I bought a book on ADHD and will make a start this weekend.

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ThatFraggle · 31/03/2023 20:55

@LeaLearnergranny

Thanks for sharing that.

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Iamdobby63 · 01/04/2023 07:15

Kennykenkencat · 31/03/2023 19:31

the anti depressants should lift her mood enough to engage with therapy so if they aren’t doing that it maybe needs looking at but you need to build up trust

If she has ADHD then the antidepressants won’t work because she isn’t actually depressed. It’s the adhd that is the issue.
Lots of women take antidepressants for years that never work because they aren’t depressed. They have ADHD. As soon as they get assessed and take the adhd medication things start to fall into place.

She's well enough to party, but refuses to even help unpack groceries

This is a classic thing that people say who don’t get ADHD

Unpacking groceries doesn’t give you the dopamine rush that partying gives you

I was actually shocked that you cleaned her room and then wrote her a letter and hinted at sofa surfing.

I haven’t ever met your Dd but from what you write from the uncontrolled emotional outbursts, the filthy room, her dropping out of school, not wanting to do anything but then doing stuff she likes, the whole thing screams ND

You ask what you could do and my reply is to look up how to parent a ND child. Punishments don’t work because we have so much going on in our heads another voice about something or other is just another voice.
The difference between being NT and having ADHD is that if every thought, idea or ability was a person and you had to say pack a suitcase the thought processes and ideas needed for a NT person would all line up in order and you could work your way through each process with no problems.
With adhd you get all the thoughts and ideas you need to pack the suitcase but you also get Motley Crew and Queen doing battle in your head with questions about what ever happened to someone you used to know, a tv program you watched playing on a loop. You get all the other jobs that need to be done shouting at you and the suitcase remains unpacked because the thought processes needed to pack it have wandered off or are hiding behind everything else that is going on in your brain.

It is exhausting just trying to decipher what you want or need.

That’s why your Dd can’t answer you when you ask her what she wants as that answer is drowned out by everything else going on in her head

Wow, thank you, by explaining first hand what it’s like to be ND you’ve just helped me understand how my son ticks a whole lot better. Thank you.

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