Led by donkeys - enough is enough

[Thisisvenus]

Bloody hell, I’ve just watched the new “led by donkeys” video. People like Matt Hancock wanting to work for a fake consultancy firm for obscene amounts of cash.

I cannot tell You how angry MPs make me right now.

I have a relative that is an NHS dr on £14 an hour. She pays for her own travel and parking. All her study… she pays for. She is so busy she sometimes doesn’t eat.

then these idiots earn loads, and then claim back loads of expenses. Disgusting in my opinion. They then get second jobs that pay them £10k a day. Without even checking if company is real first.

In my opinion an mp should only take a second job if it’s in the nhs, army etc or a volunteer job for a registered charity. That’s it. No other reason.

I can’t even process this. I’ve had enough. What on earth can we do to change this? And yes I’ll not be voting Tory at the next election. They are a bunch of posh rich boys that want to just look after themselves. Politics should be more diverse. what on earth can we do?

Maybe you should watch the Led by Donkeys interviews. Then perhaps you’ll be able to make a meaningful contribution.

Nope because i would never have had a vote, which was far from democratic and where exactly does it say we can only ever have one vote?

Quite why you include 32m people in a solution to solve nhs recruitment and retention is beyond me, we are talking about at most approx 1m workers, none of which charge the public for their services, so pay rises wouldn't be passed on, so none of this right wing bollox about wage rise inflation spirals.

Might help not to call me a "uninformed leftie" if you don't like "loony right" and then hit the report button.

Absolutely.

What's really galling is that when you ask the 'moaning minnies' for a solution you get 'I'm not a politician'. !!

Some people need to get a life (and maybe a job !)

Some people need to get a life (and maybe a job !)

Oh, the irony. I see you’ve now resorted to insult and abandoned any attempt at rational debate.

@GPTec1

Might help not to call me a "uninformed leftie" if you don't like "loony right" and then hit the report button.

I already have done. 🙂

Nope because i would never have had a vote, which was far from democratic

So you've never had a vote yet you moan about this country from morning 'til night? I've heard it all now.🙄

I would never have had a vote

Not “I’ve never had a vote”. It was pretty obvious what was meant to anyone with any degree of reading comprehension who wasn’t being deliberately provocative.

Nope because i would never have had a vote, which was far from democratic

So you've never had a vote yet you moan about this country from morning 'til night? I've heard it all now

Lets spell it out for you, i wouldn't have had a EU referendum but then again you knew exactly what i said.

More personal attacks.

How are people so strongly opinionated on either side? We're in such an impossible political position at the moment. I don't understand the forceful commitment to either party, especially the Conservatives.

@beguilingeyes The referendum was non-binding. If it wasn't it would have been declared illegal down to the actions of the leave campaign.

Now that is a moot point.

https://fullfact.org/europe/was-eu-referendum-advisory/

Doesn't matter whether it was legally binding or not, Cameron told us it would be honoured and it has.

But like all votes, we can have another, just as we have lots of other votes that over turn the result of previous ones.

Why do you think @GPTec1 needs a translator?

Or are you the same person ???

She doesn’t need a translator. She just needs an intelligent reader. Shame there are so few of them.

Must be a lot of mirrors in your house ? 😂

TBF You don't really need to be particularly intelligent to know what "I wouldn't have had an EU referendum" means.

Very surprising anyone finds this confusing but such has been the fall in educational standards in the UK.

I can't wait until labour mess up again so people can stop being rude to those who vote Tory.

Have you read any of the last few posts? If so, I assume you didn’t type that with a straight face

Interesting those of you going on about Iraq seem to forget that this was voted on by parliament- it was not all down to one person. You mention about the flawed information- well the Brexit referendum had the leave campaign busily saying that nothing would change, remember the 'we too could be like Norway, you will be able to work , live, conduct business' as before kind of complete bollocks they were putting out..'we hold all the cards' !! Turns out we held fuck all, so certain things are only possible if you have a very in demand specialist skill, pots of money to fulfill immigration criteria or a business with multi national offices. - and the big sweetener about immigration- well yesterday our business centre was full of non white , non Europeans doing immigration visas--families- not single young Europeans here maybe for a few years, large families who will undoubtedly stay. I don't have an issue with this but I do have an issue that people were fed utter baloney and consequently most of us have now lost many rights we had previously.

So she might not be an mp now.. but others are in the situation where they are claiming this sort of money.

My point being.. we are paying over the odds for £105000 per year for the role..whether it be West yorkshire or another monetary value somewhere else.. there are more dwellings paying that amount in council tax than the £105000.. so where is the extra money going?

Doctors in training are not students. They are 'junior doctors' until consultant or non training grade. Sometimes well into your thirties.
My oncalls were paid at about £9 an hour all in so can definitely believe that £14 an hour will be about right for some on calls. Lots of unpaid overtime because you can't just leave it . The pay is complicated. Basic plus an on call supplement that varies depending on intensity and frequency.

Quite, Bojo even lied about staying in the Erasmus scheme, a scheme Braverman used herself before voting and campaigning to make sure our kids wouldn't be able use it too.

Very well said.

I think it's been coming a while but Brexit really accelerated the footballisation, if that's even a word, of politics. Everyone has picked a side and vehemently opposes the other side. We're getting like the Americans.
The politicians themselves are no better. Prime Minister's Questions is embarrassing, they just trade insults and 'jokes' and the speaker is so rubbish he letsthem get away with it.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing and I am quite happy to honestly point out that I had no idea the difficulties that leaving the EU would mean for Northern Ireland,, but I did at the time think the issues involved with the EU were far to complicated for me to understand.

It is of course impossible to have no border between NI and the Republic of Ireland (and by extension the rest of the EU) and no border between NI and the rest of the UK, if there is a border between the EU and the UK.

Anyone supporting a referendum one of the options for which is impossible to implement is if you ask me somewhat foolish.