Led by donkeys - enough is enough

[Thisisvenus]

Bloody hell, I’ve just watched the new “led by donkeys” video. People like Matt Hancock wanting to work for a fake consultancy firm for obscene amounts of cash.

I cannot tell You how angry MPs make me right now.

I have a relative that is an NHS dr on £14 an hour. She pays for her own travel and parking. All her study… she pays for. She is so busy she sometimes doesn’t eat.

then these idiots earn loads, and then claim back loads of expenses. Disgusting in my opinion. They then get second jobs that pay them £10k a day. Without even checking if company is real first.

In my opinion an mp should only take a second job if it’s in the nhs, army etc or a volunteer job for a registered charity. That’s it. No other reason.

I can’t even process this. I’ve had enough. What on earth can we do to change this? And yes I’ll not be voting Tory at the next election. They are a bunch of posh rich boys that want to just look after themselves. Politics should be more diverse. what on earth can we do?

The war was going to happen regardless, the USA were determined to get rid of Saddam.
I'm not sure that a conservative PM wouldn't also have joined in, given the "special relationship"

But if we are going to play Top Trumps with Government waste and plundering, i bid £65 billion that the Tory PM Liz Truss cost the UK in just a few days & the insider trading that took place with Kwarteng and city traders.

& that cost is on going, UK gilt yields are among the highest in Europe (thats Govt borrowing costs) Pensions were also raided to prop up DB schemes too.

Then lets look at the cost of having 7m people stuck on waiting lists, ill and not working.....

But if we are going to play Top Trumps with Government waste and plundering, i bid £65 billion that the Tory PM Liz Truss cost the UK in just a few days & the insider trading that took place with Kwarteng and city traders

I bid £35billion spent on Track & Trace that Dido Harding (old friend of BJ) was supposed to set up.
Yeterday there was a .gov tweet saying that we could all now disable the Track and Trace app as it was being disbanded. Fuck off! I never set it up in the first place and anyone I know who did... it didn't work and would ping incessantly even if you didn't leave the house!

Now... that is my top trumps.

Yup. £8.4 billion is dwarfed by the hundreds of billions thrown away by the current government. And to think their strength has always purported to be fiscal responsibility.

And of course MPs of all persuasions voted for that war and the majority of the British people were right behind it at the time.

Oh yes and the mis handling of the NHS and social care has cost far far more lives than Blairs stupid war in Iraq.

Estimates vary but weekly deaths are in the 100s caused by not getting treatment (Royal College of Emergency Medicine) & it will worse.... NHS staff shortages are heading toward 500,000 across all of the NHS and Social Care,

I wasn't in favour of that war and even wrote to my MP about not getting involved.

In USA 34% of the population said they favoured the war in Iraq, 65% opposed, and 1% was undecided. The margin of error was plus or minus 3%.

In this country any support for the war was on the back of Blair's lies about the imaginary WMD,

Assuming your post is correct how do you think the problem should be solved?

Its come out in reports yesterday and today, its true.

I'm not in Government, so perhaps ask why your Govt allowed this state of affairs to occur and what they plan on doing about it?

Personally, leaving the EU has caused huge issues, which i would never have done and i wouldn't of had 10 years of 0 or 1 % pay rises nor removed the bursary & i wouldn't have a situation where carers are paid NMW, its a skilled role.

all paid for by not having all the waste listed in previous posts.

You are mistaken. £8.4 billion in 2008 = £13,860,000,000 today. It's strange you should think that insignificant?

hundreds of billions thrown away by the current government.

How do you arrive at that figure? ^

@YoungMotherHubbardsDog Can i answer?

All of the above plus an on going 4% reduction in GDP caused by Brexit.

I'm not in Government, so perhaps ask why your Govt allowed this state of affairs to occur and what they plan on doing about it?

So like most uniformed Lefties, you are happy to criticize the state of affairs without a better solution?
Not to worry it could well be Labour's problem in 18 months so they'd better be getting ready to sort it out...

It's not my government BTW

Government’s response to the pandemic has exposed the taxpayer to substantial financial risks from fraud and error. Government estimates that losses due to fraud and error from the Coronavirus Job Retention Scheme alone will be £5.3 billion. The estimated loss due to fraud and error across all COVID-19 response measures is not known but is expected to be at least £15 billion across measures implemented by HM Revenue & Customs, the Department for Work & Pensions and the Department for Business, Energy & Industrial Strategy. The total cost across government remains uncertain and could be higher, because of the long loan repayment terms. For example, loans to businesses under the Bounce Back Loan Scheme (BBLS) last up to 10 years and the typical loan period under the Cultural Recovery Fund is 20 years.

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm5802/cmselect/cmpubacc/640/summary.html

I'm not sure what question you are trying to answer?

Lol i listed what i would do.

Can the loony right read beyond the first sentence?

@Notonthestairs Government’s response to the pandemic has exposed the taxpayer to substantial financial risks from fraud and error. Government estimates that losses due to fraud and error from the Coronavirus Job Retention Scheme alone will be £5.3 billion.

I agree that error needs to be addressed - not so sure about 'fraud'. There are always people trying to 'game the system'.

IMO this does not equate to money being 'thrown away'. There is no evidence to suggest that any other government could have done any better in a unique, life threatening, situation .
The principles were admirable, the application not quite so good.

As I said before, hindsight is a wonderful thing.

BTW if Keir Starmer had had his way we would have been 'locked down' for longer.

I can't see what you said you would do.

Can the loony right read beyond the first sentence?

I don't know - you'd better ask them ! 🙂

You asked how it could be suggested that billions were thrown away by the Govenrment. I answered that.
From the longer form report -

• HM Treasury has not set out what lessons it has learnt from the government’s

response to COVID-19 and how it will apply these in future.

• HM Treasury does not yet know how much money has been lost to fraud and error

across government’s response to COVID-19.

• We are concerned that HM Treasury does not intend to adequately monitor and

update the ongoing cost of COVID-19 to the taxpayer.

The estimated losses could be as high as £20 billion.

Maybe having a pandemic plan would have helped?

https://committees.parliament.uk/publications/8934/documents/152365/default/

Ah-ha, now I have found your 'magic solution.'

Personally, leaving the EU has caused huge issues, which i would never have done and i wouldn't of had 10 years of 0 or 1 % pay rises nor removed the bursary & i wouldn't have a situation where carers are paid NMW, its a skilled role.

Leaving the EU was the result of a democratic vote, so that can't be changed.

Keeping wages in line with inflation as you suggest causes a wage/price spiral and the fear that this ratcheting effect will make double-digit inflation a longstanding feature of life in the UK.

There are 32.84m people in employment in the UK, and if all of them receive pay rises that matched the current inflation rate it would prove to be a crippling bill for employers, including local and central government.

Regardless of what you thought, the majority of the British public supported the Iraq war at the time. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2015/06/03/remembering-iraq

@Notonthestairs Maybe having a pandemic plan would have helped?

Maybe.

But when did they actually know it was a 'pandemic' as opposed to a blip on the winter deaths' statistics?

The last pandemic in UK was the Swine Flu pandemic in 2008, which wasn't comparable as 457 people died from it.

Prior to that it was the Spanish Flu in 1919 which most people don't remember.

They were dealing with an unknown disease and an unprecedented situation which they did not cause.

As I said, if the war got support it was because people were fed lies about WMD that were going to wipe out most of the globe.

And Blair needs to carry the can for that.

It doesn’t matter why it got support, it did. Whoever had been PM at the time would have done exactly the same thing, Michael Howard was the Tory leader at the time and his support was “unequivocal”.

Democratic votes are changed all the time...or why bother having elections?

The referendum was non-binding. If it wasn't it would have been declared illegal down to the actions of the leave campaign. It's just Bojo and his Brexit headbangers who treated it as though it was carved in stone.

As for fixing the NHS...maybe resume proper funding? Ten years ago the NHS was rated the best health service in the world. Ten years of Austerity have crippled it.

https://pharmaphorum.com/news/nhs-named-worlds-best-healthcare-system

We've got the highest tax burden on record...what are they doing with it all?

Firstly, those that are having a go at whoever decided to vote Tory……get a grip, it’s a personal choice. As for this led by donkeys thing, not seen it, never heard of it and you do have the ability to turn the tv over! Nobody has forced you to watch it. I swear to Lucifer, this country has more moaners than those that do any good!