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dinner just went to shit - why?

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Whatjusthappenedthen · 19/03/2023 17:59

Call me overdramatic but I'm trying to process exactly what went on and dinner just now and would appreciate advice on how it went so badly and how to avoid it happening again?

First of all, we're probably all neurodiverse - DS1 and DS2 both diagnosed, I have anxiety and probably adhd but haven't been diagnosed yet, my DD acts 'strangely' for her age so I think she's probably autistic like DS1 and the same goes for my partner.

Anyway.

We sat down for a roast dinner and DD (14) grabbed the gravy jug just as I was about to reach for it. I jokingly said "it's okay, you have the gravy first" with a smile on my face, to which DD asked what I'd said and I just said I was joking, but next time ask before just taking the gravy jug.

She immediately got stroppy and started sulking, so I told her to quit it as she does this a lot and was kind of done with her behaviour for today (she had one of these strops earlier when she took offence to something else I said).

She then sat there with a face like thunder, picking at her food so I told her to stop it, then just lost it and said I couldn't cope with sitting opposite her with a face on her. Left her table and went into the other room - 30 seconds later decided that was childish and started to walk back into the dining room to be met by my partner bringing my plate to me, saying my food was going cold.
I told him it was fine and we sat back down at the table.

Started eating, had to tell DD again to drop the attitude because she was picking at her fold, sighing dramatically and looking like she was about to cry, then my partner got up and turned the tv down to a whisper in the other room (open plan room), came back and sat down but then when I said it was so quiet it may as well have gone off, the whole point I'd put it on was to avoid us all sitting in silence at the table, partner got up and turned the TV back up again then finally came back to statt eating.

He got halfway through his dinner then sat for a minute not eating, then he got up, took his plate out to the kitchen and went and sat in the other room.

Just to clarify, we don't have a rule to stay at the table until everyone's finished, so him leaving the way he did wasn't an issue, aside from the fact he didn't eat all his food like usual.

DD was on the verge of tears and ate slowly, both DS deemed oblivious and when I finished my food I went to ask dp what had been wrong and he said he'd not fancied his food because of the atmosphere (created by my telling dd off - he said I wasn't wrong to do that but it created an awkward atmosphere which put him off his food).

Now, I'm baffled by how it all spiraled - it was such a small thing that escalated and dd end dd up finishing her dinner and going upstairs in tears.

I've spoken to her and apologised for how things went, but how can I stop that happening again? Should I have just not made that joke in the first place or was dd overreacting...was the atmosphere really my fault or should my partner have ignored the fact I told dd off or was it all me and I should've just brought it up with dd after dinner?

Any advice appreciated!

OP posts:
Oysterbabe · 19/03/2023 18:15

DaveyJonesLocker · 19/03/2023 18:06

You took a dig at your daughter for getting some gravy. You expect her to ask if she's allowed the gravy that's been out on the table? Are you having a laugh?

Then you kept taking constant digs at her. Then you stormed out, then stormed back in again. Then carried on having a go at your daughter. Then had a go at your husband.

It was ALL you. You saw your daughter nearly in tears and just carried on.

If you reach for the gravy jug as someone else has already taken it you apologise and wait your damn turn. If your kid is upset you try to cheer them up, not tell them off. Seriously you must be hell to live with and not a thing you've said or done can be attributed to being ND. It's just being a bully.

I agree with this analysis entirely.

ToBeFrancesca · 19/03/2023 18:16

A classic case of pick your battles.

I've sat through many a dinner with a thunderous teenager. On the whole, it's best to carry on talking with everyone else while the thunderous one thunders away to themself. If they show a flicker of a smile/interest, include them.

But tomorrow is another day (to use another cliche).

User0610134057 · 19/03/2023 18:16

Reading your account, it sounds like you went on at DD a lot. It would’ve turned out differently if after the gravy misunderstanding you’d not mentioned her attitude or her expression/demeanour and just let it pass. 14yo can be like that but I don’t think what you said helped.

MrMarkham · 19/03/2023 18:16

OP, you made an unnecessary big deal about the gravy and then stropped off!

callthataspade · 19/03/2023 18:16

God. Poor kids

Seriously. You had a go at her getting some gravy? Then watched her sit there on the verge of tears.

Slow hand clap for parent of the year.

Winter2020 · 19/03/2023 18:16

I think enough people have responded with similar thoughts now and no need to keep on bashing the OP.

ThreeRingCircus · 19/03/2023 18:17

You weren’t providing consistency. You were unhappy with her having an emotional reaction to the situation but you were allowed to.

This is spot on for me. I get teenagers can be frustrating but you clearly were not "joking" about the gravy jug. You were sniping. If you hadn't asked permission to take it then she shouldn't need to either. You made a passive aggressive remark dressed up with a smile that upset your DD, I can see why she was upset.

You've nitpicked here. You can't bear looking at her face even though you've upset her, you can strop off to the living room but would clearly have been annoyed if anyone else did that, the TV volume isn't right for you, your partner didn't want to eat with such an atmosphere.....who can blame him?

I think you need to step right back and work out why you have an issue when things aren't exactly how you want them to be.

QueSyrahSyrah · 19/03/2023 18:17

I cannot fathom why she has to ask before taking the gravy jug that is sitting within reach of her on the table?

YABU.

Angelofthenortheast · 19/03/2023 18:17

This was a buckaroo moment for her. Why did you just nit pick at everything she did until she cracked?

If you don't want this to happen again:
-don't have a weird gravy etiquette...
-if you're not happy with someone's face or attitude after you've criticised them, then YOU have to try harder to bring the atmosphere back, not moan even more at the person you criticised

Soubriquet · 19/03/2023 18:17

You started it and then escalated it.

maddiemookins16mum · 19/03/2023 18:17

I don’t get the whole ND stuff, sounds like you wanted a fight with your teen and made the whole meal unpleasant for everyone. Why does this have to be about autism, it’s becoming the norm now for posts to have this as a disclaimer/precursor these days.

smellyflowers · 19/03/2023 18:18

I just said I was joking, but next time ask before just taking the gravy jug. but you were about to reach for it without asking?!

Goldenbear · 19/03/2023 18:18

Yes, what did you DD do wrong?

Azandme · 19/03/2023 18:18

What happened?

YOU did.

Poor dd.

takealettermsjones · 19/03/2023 18:18

So her "crimes" were:

• having some gravy
• being too quiet
• not eating fast enough
• looking upset

And you:

• made passive aggressive comments
• shouted at her
• stormed out
• held her responsible for your mood
• berated her for something she can't help (her face)

It's not really a difficult one, to be honest.

I'm also wondering what the earlier incident was - what exactly did you say to her, that she took offence to?

Ihavekids · 19/03/2023 18:18

You totally failed to be the adult in the room here.

Womencanlift · 19/03/2023 18:18

Waiting for the massive drip feed where either the OP mentions something she “forgot” in the first post or say we all have misinterpreted what she was meaning to say

YABU OP and I really feel for your daughter. What a drama you have caused over what should have been a nice family dinner

Notimeforaname · 19/03/2023 18:19

Both you and your husband got up and walked away from the table because of your feelings.... but your daughter is unreasonable for make a face and pushing her food around? Weird.

lunar1 · 19/03/2023 18:19

I think you caused it, treat a 14 year old like a baby and then be shocked that she's having a childish strop. It honestly sounds like you picked at her till she snapped.

AdoraBell · 19/03/2023 18:20

Why did you keep telling her off repeatedly?

smellyflowers · 19/03/2023 18:20

to tell DD again to drop the attitude because she was picking at her fold, sighing dramatically and looking like she was about to cry you upset her!

This is a horrible read OP

Prinnny · 19/03/2023 18:20

You caused it. Is there an hierarchy for who can touch the gravy jug?

Soakitup37 · 19/03/2023 18:21

From your post it sounds as though you don’t even like your daughter? You were more a do as I say not as I do the whole way through this scenario and set the tone of the meal with a passive aggressive comment about “grabbing” the gravy.

teenagers are moody by nature, you seem to get off on winding her up, and then having the audacity to act like a teenager yourself.

yabvvu

PinkyBlossom · 19/03/2023 18:21

I agree with others that you’re bullying your daughter. If you can’t regulate your emotions (a key symptom of ADHD) and this is why you are being abusive for your own daughters’ wellbeing you need to prioritise getting an assessment and trialing medication.

Rememberal · 19/03/2023 18:21

maddiemookins16mum · 19/03/2023 18:17

I don’t get the whole ND stuff, sounds like you wanted a fight with your teen and made the whole meal unpleasant for everyone. Why does this have to be about autism, it’s becoming the norm now for posts to have this as a disclaimer/precursor these days.

Absolutely!! Imagine how ACTUALLY adhd people feel constantly reading folk putting every bit of arseholery down to "I might have adhd".

It's not Arsehole Disorder FFS.