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BBC Complaints

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jgw1 · 11/03/2023 08:48

AIBU to share the link to BBC complaints?

www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints/make-a-complaint/#/Complaint

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Bingbangbongbash · 11/03/2023 10:57

User1396390 · 11/03/2023 10:48

You can't pay for just a month though like you can the other subscriptions, if you could it would be OK, I object to paying for a whole year or losing money if I don't.

So what? It’s still a choice for you to pay to watch and it’s still a subscription, albeit a minimum term one. Don’t want to sign up for a year, don’t do it. Plenty of other tv available. Are you this angry about gym memberships or the millions of other subscription services with a minimum term? People fundamentally don’t understand the licence fee is optional.

And to the pp who said it covers all live broadcast tv, again, so what? ITV, 4 and 5 are available in other ways. The licence fee isn’t mandatory, it’s a subscription.

jgw1 · 11/03/2023 10:57

SerendipityJane · 11/03/2023 10:42

Why not be part of the future ?

Oh dear, I'm supposed to be working. Oh hang on, this is work.

Great letter.

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Quveas · 11/03/2023 10:58

Snowsurprised · 11/03/2023 08:54

The BBC and presenters should be impartial. That’s what we’re paying for.

It really isn't what you are paying for. Don't be ridiculous. I am not in the least interested in football, and have never watched MOTD in my life (65 years). But nobody has the right remove the right to speak out on subjects that they are concerned about unless it directly impacts adversely on their employment (and Gary Linekar is freelance and not employed by the BBC anyway). A news presenter yes, maybe. But even that is dubious in all circumstances - war correspondents, for example, often comment on what they do and see. But this is a guy who is not employed by the BBC, whose "job" is to comment on football - if he wants to comment in his private life on any other matter that should be his right.

And the BBC won't win this one. They will either have to back down and look stupid. Or he will go to any one of the other channels showing football who are no doubt beating down his door right now, and the BBC will look stupid.

Whether you agree with him or not, silencing or attempting to silence people without outstanding reasons is never a good look. And if there hadn't been all this fuss, if Braverman hadn't reacted, if the BBC weren't involved in trying to silence him, half the country wouldn't have had a clue what he said anyway! Prior to this I only knew he was a past footballer who sold crisps. It's only thanks to the fuss that I now know anything else!

Bingbangbongbash · 11/03/2023 10:59

Can you sign up to Prime for just a month?

Kindofthisnotthat · 11/03/2023 11:00

Like this impartial Alan Sugar twitter ?

BBC Complaints
SerendipityJane · 11/03/2023 11:01

jgw1 · 11/03/2023 10:57

Great letter.

I really can't be arsed to ask it to write in the style of a famous author, but I can assure you others have. That's where the up/down and regenerate buttons come into play, as you "teach" it what writing a letter to the BBC in the style of - say Alan Bennett - would look like.

At the moment anyone can sign up and have a play. "Write a column in the style of Boris Johnson about <insert subject>" might very well mean some places don't need to fork up £100,000 for the real thing, if they can sub me £100 for a few curated attempts.

jgw1 · 11/03/2023 11:04

SerendipityJane · 11/03/2023 11:01

I really can't be arsed to ask it to write in the style of a famous author, but I can assure you others have. That's where the up/down and regenerate buttons come into play, as you "teach" it what writing a letter to the BBC in the style of - say Alan Bennett - would look like.

At the moment anyone can sign up and have a play. "Write a column in the style of Boris Johnson about <insert subject>" might very well mean some places don't need to fork up £100,000 for the real thing, if they can sub me £100 for a few curated attempts.

Its not letting me sign up. Not a bad thing I might end up wasting even more of my day away.

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User1396390 · 11/03/2023 11:04

Bingbangbongbash · 11/03/2023 10:59

Can you sign up to Prime for just a month?

Yes you can, you just pay the month then cancel it but I do pay for that by the year as it's cheaper by the year and I always want the delivery whatever is on the TV. Even Sky you can just pay for a month now with Sky Stream as you don't have to have a full contract. BBC need to get with it, I would probably still pay and it may even be more expensive but I would feel it was my choice

Snowsurprised · 11/03/2023 11:08

Fiona Bruce hasn’t been politically impartial! She stated someone else’s comments for accuracy. Whether or not she ‘excused domestic violence’ is a completely different issue.

Clavinova · 11/03/2023 11:11

Greg Dyke, former director general of the BBC, disagrees with you

Although Greg Dyke was a Labour Party donor -
2003
Former BBC executive Will Wyatt has admitted he was the insider who nearly scuppered Greg Dyke's campaign to become director general by leaking details of his Labour party donations to the Times.

The stories, printed four years ago, sparked a political row and a war of words in the broadsheet between pro and anti-Dyke supporters. However, it did not stop Mr Dyke taking the top job at the corporation

www.theguardian.com/business/2003/jun/12/bbc.thetimes

jgw1 · 11/03/2023 11:13

Clavinova · 11/03/2023 11:11

Greg Dyke, former director general of the BBC, disagrees with you

Although Greg Dyke was a Labour Party donor -
2003
Former BBC executive Will Wyatt has admitted he was the insider who nearly scuppered Greg Dyke's campaign to become director general by leaking details of his Labour party donations to the Times.

The stories, printed four years ago, sparked a political row and a war of words in the broadsheet between pro and anti-Dyke supporters. However, it did not stop Mr Dyke taking the top job at the corporation

www.theguardian.com/business/2003/jun/12/bbc.thetimes

Working overtime today?

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Clavinova · 11/03/2023 11:16

Kindofthisnotthat
Like this impartial Alan Sugar twitter?

Although Alan Sugar deleted that tweet - perhaps Gary Lineker should agree to delete his tweet and stick to less controversial ones?

Alan Sugar has deleted a tweet depicting Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn in a car alongside Adolf Hitler, following calls for him to "disown" it.

Shadow chancellor John McDonnell had appealed to the businessman to delete it and "bring people together".

John Mann, chairman of the all-party group against anti-Semitism, said the use of Nazi comparators was "demeaning, unwarranted and dangerous".

Shadow cabinet minister Jon Trickett called the post "grossly misjudged and deeply offensive".

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43604058

DuncinToffee · 11/03/2023 11:32

perhaps Gary Lineker should agree to delete his tweet and stick to less controversial ones?

Less controversial according to who?

You want censorship?

MandyMotherOfBrian · 11/03/2023 11:34

And to the pp who said it covers all live broadcast tv, again, so what? ITV, 4 and 5 are available in other ways

It isn’t just live TV, you need a licence to stream or record from eg ITVX. And yes it’s optional, in the same way that doing or not doing other things that criminalise you are optional I guess.

jgw1 · 11/03/2023 11:34

DuncinToffee · 11/03/2023 11:32

perhaps Gary Lineker should agree to delete his tweet and stick to less controversial ones?

Less controversial according to who?

You want censorship?

This is what I don't get. People say the tweet is controversial, but no one has been able to say where it is factually inaccurate. How is something that is factually accurate controversial?

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User1396390 · 11/03/2023 11:38

That was a rude comment to someone commenting on your thread @jgw1 asking them if they were working overtime

jgw1 · 11/03/2023 11:39

User1396390 · 11/03/2023 11:38

That was a rude comment to someone commenting on your thread @jgw1 asking them if they were working overtime

How is it rude, to be concerned that someone seems to be working long hours at the moment?

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Neededanewuserhandle · 11/03/2023 11:41

Zonder · 11/03/2023 10:49

Are you hoping for the death knell for everything else that's hugely popular on the BBC too? Soaps, drama, Call the Midwife, Ant and Dec? Would you like it to just show programmes you like and forget the millions who like other programmes?

There's a reason GL was the highest paid presenter on BBC - he expertly presented a popular programme.

Are you hoping for the death knell for everything else that's hugely popular on the BBC too? Soaps, drama, Call the Midwife, Ant and Dec?
Yes.

LadyWithLapdog · 11/03/2023 11:42

@User1396390 unless you’re new around here, you’d get it. But it’s water off a duck’s back for Clavinova, she/he will soon swamp the thread with endless quotes till everyone gives up. Their MO.

Neededanewuserhandle · 11/03/2023 11:45

jgw1 · 11/03/2023 11:34

This is what I don't get. People say the tweet is controversial, but no one has been able to say where it is factually inaccurate. How is something that is factually accurate controversial?

Some of it is facts, some opinion. The numbers are facts, the rest is his opinion.

jgw1 · 11/03/2023 11:50

Neededanewuserhandle · 11/03/2023 11:45

Some of it is facts, some opinion. The numbers are facts, the rest is his opinion.

Which particular part do you think is not a fact? Be as specific as you can.

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Bingbangbongbash · 11/03/2023 11:54

MandyMotherOfBrian · 11/03/2023 11:34

And to the pp who said it covers all live broadcast tv, again, so what? ITV, 4 and 5 are available in other ways

It isn’t just live TV, you need a licence to stream or record from eg ITVX. And yes it’s optional, in the same way that doing or not doing other things that criminalise you are optional I guess.

Well yes, the subscription includes other ways of watching certain channels live. Not sure what your point is? It’s still optional to consume content in those particular ways, or that particular content (BBC tv). Consuming it without paying is theft. Do you think theft should be decriminalised? Weird.

jgw1 · 11/03/2023 11:58

smellyflowers · 11/03/2023 09:14

I could probably have got the info from the website though

Isn't the same true of any link that is posted anywhere?

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Neededanewuserhandle · 11/03/2023 11:59

jgw1 · 11/03/2023 11:50

Which particular part do you think is not a fact? Be as specific as you can.

Which tweet are you talking about?
In this one -
This is just an immeasurably cruel policy directed at the most vulnerable people in language that is not dissimilar to that used by Germany in the '30s, and I'm out of order?
Surely any sensible person can see that immeasurably cruel is in the eye of the beholder and therefore an opinion? Are you seriously trying to say that is a "fact"?

Clavinova · 11/03/2023 12:00

DuncinToffee
Less controversial according to whom?

Emily Thornberry here;
Gary Lineker ‘went too far’ with migrant Bill tweet, says senior Labour MP

www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/celebritynews/gary-lineker-went-too-far-with-migrant-bill-tweet-says-senior-labour-mp/ar-AA18qeEN?li=BBoPWjQ