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Not sure how or if to put this right

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Smartieshavesomeanswers · 09/03/2023 16:13

A bit of a long one here, and changed n as me so it can’t be linked back to my other posts…
Behind the housing estate where I live is a lovely big field known as the football field, all the local kids head there at the weekend for a kick about and play. It is a proper field though- not a rec or anything.

Anyway me and my boys were there a few weekends ago and there was a woman walking her dog off lead. It stopped for a shit and she carried on walking and didn’t pick it up. I shouted over and told her to pick it up, and she just carried on walking. I headed over and cut her off and told her to go and pick up her dogs mess. She told me she’d go back for it later and to mind my own business and went to walk off. I did at this point block her way (probably a mistake in retrospect) and told her kids were playing and it was disgusting. She replied that it wouldn’t be a problem if my kids stayed on the footpath and it was her field. Anyway I made her pick it up and thought that was the end of it.

anyway we went to go over there at the weekend and there is now electric fence up either side of the path, all properly signed and everything, and I’ve heard on the grapevine my neighbours are furious that the kids can’t play there anymore. Apparently a few have spoken with the lady (she does actually own it-what are the chances?) and she is saying that she felt frightened and intimidated by someone, and now doesn’t want the kids using it any more and is going to move some of her sheep in there once it’s had a ‘rest’ I think this is just an excuse to justify the fence.

she hasn’t mentioned me, but I am worried if it gets out it was me my neighbours will be really angry. Should I find her and apologise? Apparently she just heads round the field once a day with a scooper to tidy it, all my neighbours seem to think she is gods gift even doing this. Was I in the wrong? I really think I have dropped a clanger here, what should I do?

OP posts:
Maireas · 10/03/2023 11:52

chocciechocface · 10/03/2023 11:19

It's not overt in the thread, but I have wondered if the OP is male. If so, the misogyny reveals itself very well.

Yes, the judgement of a woman in her 60s, the comment that she was "ambling" with her dog, so was fair game for aggression. Just reeks of it.

Mamamia7962 · 10/03/2023 12:06

If you're referring to me being the OP, no not at all. I just find it strange that a woman who people on here think is kind enough to let children play football in her field, wouldn't want to pick up her dog's shit straight away so that those children didn't step/fall in it.

ReneBumsWombats · 10/03/2023 12:07

Mamamia7962 · 10/03/2023 12:06

If you're referring to me being the OP, no not at all. I just find it strange that a woman who people on here think is kind enough to let children play football in her field, wouldn't want to pick up her dog's shit straight away so that those children didn't step/fall in it.

Well, they can't possibly fall in it now, so all good.

Anklespraying · 10/03/2023 12:24

This is definitely a man. Takes his boys to what he and other dads call "the football field" at a weekend, catches woman doing something he doesn't like in his football field, sets off to put this disobedient woman in her place. She has the temerity to tell him she's the landowner and will manage her land how she wishes and in fact his boys won't be affected by her actions at all if they stay where they are legally entitled to be, on the path.

This does not compute in man's brain.

Woman, 60s, dog, insufficiently purposeful movement. This is upending the natural order of things and the idea that he might need HER permission to be there can't possibly be entertained. She's lying obviously, as irrational females are prone to do when rational men point out their disobedience. He escalates aggression until the natural order is restored and and this woman returns to her appropriate subservient status and performs as commanded by her superior.

He only acknowledges that the invisible woman is actually the land owner when another MAN tells him this. (See end of OPs first post).

This leads to further descriptions of woman's irrational and disobedient behaviour. Spiteful and needs to calm down. Not behaving like a normal farmer, just a local do gooder for praise.

He's only bothered now because the other dads are going to go apeshit at him when they find out he had an altercation with the farmer (a 60 year old woman) and told her his rules for her using his football field, that is actually hers.

Bloke.

Maireas · 10/03/2023 12:27

I think you've got it in a nutshell, @Anklespraying .

Casilero · 10/03/2023 12:43

Mamamia7962 · 10/03/2023 08:41

Casilero - A football play area with dog shit on it. You would be happy with that would you?

It's HER land to do with as she wishes. She can literally fill the entire field with dog shit if she wishes.

But yes, the odd shit away from where the kids were playing wouldn’t bother me. And any parents who are not happy with this can buy their own field can't they?

AnotherForumUser · 10/03/2023 12:51

I suspect you are right @Anklespraying . If not a man then the entitled bully of an OP is clearly one of those misogynistic handmaidens who echo what the patriarchy spout and seek to tear down women who dare to step out of the place allotted by the all important bearer of the flaccid dick.

WalkingThroughTreacle · 10/03/2023 12:52

Mamamia7962 · 10/03/2023 12:06

If you're referring to me being the OP, no not at all. I just find it strange that a woman who people on here think is kind enough to let children play football in her field, wouldn't want to pick up her dog's shit straight away so that those children didn't step/fall in it.

You've made umpteen posts making it very clear what your views are on dog shit. We get it. What are your views though on a lone woman being bullied and intimidated, to the point of being put in fear for her safety? Are you actually excusing/applauding it or are you just so blinkered and dog-shit obsessed that you are choosing to ignore that aspect of the matter being discussed?

I don't like dog mess either, I doubt anyone does, but bullying, threatening and intimidating someone, especially a lone woman in her sixties, is on a whole different level from someone not picking up after their dog (irrespective of who's land it is or who uses it).

fairycards · 10/03/2023 12:56

Mamamia7962 · 10/03/2023 12:06

If you're referring to me being the OP, no not at all. I just find it strange that a woman who people on here think is kind enough to let children play football in her field, wouldn't want to pick up her dog's shit straight away so that those children didn't step/fall in it.

Mybe she has a painful back/hip. She goes around with a scooper once a day clearing random dog turds and other people's rubbish while she's at it, didn't the OP say? Being "community saint" and all that.

TheOrigRights · 10/03/2023 13:03

clearly one of those misogynistic handmaidens who echo what the patriarchy spout and seek to tear down women who dare to step out of the place allotted by the all important bearer of the flaccid dick.

I need this on a t.shirt...or something!

chocciechocface · 10/03/2023 13:11

Mamamia7962 · 10/03/2023 12:06

If you're referring to me being the OP, no not at all. I just find it strange that a woman who people on here think is kind enough to let children play football in her field, wouldn't want to pick up her dog's shit straight away so that those children didn't step/fall in it.

I don't think I've seen anything anywhere that says the lady was kind enough to let children play in her field. I doubt permission was sought. I suspect the field was casually used and abused without her consent.

Her comment to the OP that the children wouldn't step in dog shit if they stuck to the path is quite revealing. Because that's what they should have been doing - sticking to the path unless they asked permission to use the field. Now she's making sure everyone sticks to the path.

CalpolDependant · 10/03/2023 13:11

fairycards · 10/03/2023 08:05

How does she do that? "Oh, I'm so terribly sorry I stood over you and bullied you and made you pick up that dog shit then and there - if I'd known you were the true land owner I would not have bullied you! So soz, pls return the field to the children. PS, don't tell my neighbours I am the bully. x"

My mistake. She can’t ever make it right and I’m the fool, for trying to be kind and calm and reassuring. For thinking that an apology could be worthwhile a

If only I were like @fairycards and much more personally invested in this story (about 2 people I don’t know.) Then I could rage and rant and swear too.

Pity.

FrostyFifi · 10/03/2023 13:12

I doubt there's a playpark in the UK that doesn't currently have at least one lurking dogshit in it. Those that precious about it had better avoid letting their children anywhere but land they personally own.
The height of entitlement is to go onto someone else's land, that they have given you the privilige of access to, and then bitch about it.
Actually no, the height of entitlement is to go onto someone else's land and harrass them, and then complain when you're not invited back.

I agree it's a bloke, thinking about it. That rage and contempt towards an older woman who isn't bowing and scraping to them. I honestly think some blokes would like to toss any woman who is no longer deemed fuckable and also refuses to serve them into the sea.

AliceOlive · 10/03/2023 13:12

“Once she calms down” is another big clue to the OP’s sex.

LighthouseCat · 10/03/2023 13:13

@Anklespraying you are so funny (and probably 100% right!)

chocciechocface · 10/03/2023 13:21

If a women got in my face over what I did on my own land while their kids regularly left litter, I'd tell her directly to her face to take her children and get off my land and never come back. I certainly don't think I'd turn around and actually pick up the shit.

If a man did that to me, I wouldn't. I'd be really scared and do what I needed to do to avoided escalating it.

That's why I think it might be a man. If it's not a man, then the OP must have been spectacularly aggressive. Weirdly so too in that they managed to brush it off as a done and dusted reasonable thing to do.

And if it is a man, oh my word he's in deep doggie doo doo in this community. It is so unbelievably out of order on all levels. The only person who could potentially fix it is his wife, by going to the farmer apologising and telling her that her husband can be a total prick sometimes.

But the field. That's gone. The farming community will totally understand why.

Meceme · 10/03/2023 13:22

FrostyFifi · 10/03/2023 13:12

I doubt there's a playpark in the UK that doesn't currently have at least one lurking dogshit in it. Those that precious about it had better avoid letting their children anywhere but land they personally own.
The height of entitlement is to go onto someone else's land, that they have given you the privilige of access to, and then bitch about it.
Actually no, the height of entitlement is to go onto someone else's land and harrass them, and then complain when you're not invited back.

I agree it's a bloke, thinking about it. That rage and contempt towards an older woman who isn't bowing and scraping to them. I honestly think some blokes would like to toss any woman who is no longer deemed fuckable and also refuses to serve them into the sea.

Got it in one.

Mamamia7962 · 10/03/2023 13:25

Choccie - Read some of the earlier posts on this thread. Whether the children had permission or not is something we will never know unless the OP comes back to tell us, which I doubt she will.

Do people never learn on social media.

chocciechocface · 10/03/2023 13:34

Mamamia7962 · 10/03/2023 13:25

Choccie - Read some of the earlier posts on this thread. Whether the children had permission or not is something we will never know unless the OP comes back to tell us, which I doubt she will.

Do people never learn on social media.

The OP categorically did NOT seek permission. If they did, they would have recognised the women walking her dog as the farmer who had granted them permission to use her land and given her a friendly wave.

The only thing we don't know is whether the neighbours had been granted permission, and they are bloody angry the OP has ruined it.

How can you not be shocked by this?

"I did at this point block her way (probably a mistake in retrospect) and told her kids were playing and it was disgusting. She replied that it wouldn’t be a problem if my kids stayed on the footpath and it was her field. Anyway I made her pick it up and thought that was the end of it."

FrostyFifi · 10/03/2023 13:42

Anyway I made her pick it up and thought that was the end of it.

I basically read that as "I bullied and intimidated an older woman and thought that as usual there would be no consequences for me".

chocciechocface · 10/03/2023 13:44

FrostyFifi · 10/03/2023 13:42

Anyway I made her pick it up and thought that was the end of it.

I basically read that as "I bullied and intimidated an older woman and thought that as usual there would be no consequences for me".

Chilling, isn't it. And wow was the OP wrong. I wish I could high-five the farmer and give her a hug.

MysteryBelle · 10/03/2023 13:46

The only disgusting dog excrement in this story is the op.

Doesthepopeshitinthewoods · 10/03/2023 13:55

Anklespraying · 10/03/2023 12:24

This is definitely a man. Takes his boys to what he and other dads call "the football field" at a weekend, catches woman doing something he doesn't like in his football field, sets off to put this disobedient woman in her place. She has the temerity to tell him she's the landowner and will manage her land how she wishes and in fact his boys won't be affected by her actions at all if they stay where they are legally entitled to be, on the path.

This does not compute in man's brain.

Woman, 60s, dog, insufficiently purposeful movement. This is upending the natural order of things and the idea that he might need HER permission to be there can't possibly be entertained. She's lying obviously, as irrational females are prone to do when rational men point out their disobedience. He escalates aggression until the natural order is restored and and this woman returns to her appropriate subservient status and performs as commanded by her superior.

He only acknowledges that the invisible woman is actually the land owner when another MAN tells him this. (See end of OPs first post).

This leads to further descriptions of woman's irrational and disobedient behaviour. Spiteful and needs to calm down. Not behaving like a normal farmer, just a local do gooder for praise.

He's only bothered now because the other dads are going to go apeshit at him when they find out he had an altercation with the farmer (a 60 year old woman) and told her his rules for her using his football field, that is actually hers.

Bloke.

On the fucking money. Brava.

AlwaysWorriedAboutEverything · 10/03/2023 13:59

Ahh of course it's a dude! Makes sense.

TheEverlovingFork · 10/03/2023 14:02

On reflection do believe @Anklespraying is bang-on. The greedy raging entitlement does rather screech 'stereotyped older woman not sufficiently humbled by my presence'

Don't think you'll get away with that kind of cock-up in a small rural community with FB OP. I'd worry more about dogshit through your letter box than in someone else's field at this point.

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