To ask what stops you voting for Labour?

[Winniethepoohandtiggertoo]

No agenda I’m just interested as Kier is on LBC this morning…

For me it’s the TWAW magical thinking, and not being convinced they would prioritise average earners, which I want to happen.

I think I may already have posted on this with the same answer but I’ll say it again as it deserves to be said more than once. Kier Starmer is a grown (married) man who wants to run the country but he doesn’t know what a woman is. It would be equally concerning if he said he didn’t know what a fork was or a television or a chair. I can’t vote for someone who is that

… ignorant. (Pressed post too quickly).

Same

I doubt that’s true. With landslides as we had in either direction it stands to reason a lot of voters switched last time and may have voted Labour previously.

As a voter put it below there are many in the middle ready to be won over, it’s a mistake for Labour to think as you have posted.

Women’s rights - anyone who refuses to define what a woman is will never get my vote.

Yep 💯😥

Memories I am old enough to have.

Yes, I don't think Kier is the best leader, but we never the Tories out so badly, Labour our best option for that I think.

I think voting Tory because Labour says TWAW is pretty daft and short-sighted. The pushback is already happening; give Labour a few years and they'll have reversed course on this, along with all the other center-Left European parties. (America is a lost cause, but thankfully we are not America)

Need, not never 🙄

For me it’s that they’re supposed to be in opposition but they were too gutless to oppose the biggest mistake the country has made in my lifetime with brexit. What’s the point in a spineless opposition that just goes along with whatever shite the government does?

Theres also the way they treated Jeremy Corbyn, making out like he’s anti semitic just because he wants to speak out about Palestinian oppression.

Then there’s the fact that they don’t know what a woman is.

Nothing. Especially after the latest revelations revealing that the ex Tory Prime Minister (disgraced) has been allowed to nominate his own father for a knighthood. How disgusting.

I didn't vote Tory last time due to Boris or Labour due to Corbyn - but a third party who only just got their deposit back and as only one of the other parties who did.

Last place we lived went from Labour to Tory - but I voted Lib dem.

If Labour looked credible to me or were clearly the better option they'd get my vote. It might be comforting to think that everyone who posts is just a Tory in disguise actually I think there are many normal Labour voters or floating voters like me feeling really let down.

To put it simply, I don't like them, I don't like their policies (what few policies they have!), I look at what they've done in Wales and that doesn't exactly fill me with confidence. On the other hand, I think the Tories are completely awful too. No idea who I would vote for if there was an election tomorrow.

That is not the reason. It is nothing to do with hating a minority, it’s to do with biology and protecting womens rights.

If labour continue to insist that it’s about hate and transphobia, they are proving the point that they haven’t got a clue.

They pretend not to know what a woman is, have too many poor quality MPs (I’m not saying the Tories don’t also) and I’ve never trusted them on education. I don’t know where my vote will go but it’s very unlikely to be Labour and it certainly won’t be the Lib Dems or Greens (same reasons as for Labour, except they are worse). I’ve never voted Tory and am reluctant to.

Refusal to accept the biological reality of women and make policy accordingly.

Not listening to women and therefore happy to throw ours and our daughters' rights under the bus.
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1. TWAW
2. Their treatment of Rosie Duffield and other women standing up for women's rights.
3. That disgusting misogynist bully Lloyd Russell-Moyle.
4. Keir Starmer is a cowardly fence-sitter who loves to give clever retorts at PMQs, but doesn't have any ideas for fixing things or doing them better. During the pandemic he snipped away from the sidelines and then supported every stupid thing the government did.
5. Anti-semitism
6. Magic money tree/soak the rich attitudes.
7. Stated policy to scrap or destroy private schools when state schools would be completely unable to absorb all those extra children and are on their knees as it is.
8. Both of which last points can be boiled down to 'the politics of envy', which I find deeply distasteful.

The fact they can't manage their own finances, let alone alone the country.
(£4.8 M deficet in 2021 accounts)

1. that they will not stand up and protect womens rights and acknowledge that Women are of the female sex.

1. The for allowing the continued bullying of Rose Duffield.

1. For Gaslighting other women labour members, when they have raised concerns about the AWSL and other policies they proposed around self id, and actively tell them they are not wanted in the labour party because of their questions or opinions.

1. The now making a big deal out of the menopause in a desperate bid to win back some women voters but their proposels only sell women out again, by making them look even more unreliable employees even after the maternity years are over. 🤦‍♀️

Yes some women can have terrible menopause symptoms. but we don't need fucking 'menopause leave'!

Their magic money tree.

Rosie Duffield was shouted down in the commons by Labour men for speaking about single sex issues less than two months ago. Where is the pushback, where is the thinking, when the misogyny is shamelessly on display like this?

@Bamboux Thanks, it really was! It's almost impossible so asks questions on delicate subjects without being accused of being goady, but then if no one answers then how do we learn more. Aside from what I've already said what you experienced being wrong, I'm also frustrated because we need more people engaged in politics, especially at a local level, and not fewer.

All these people willing throw the whole country under the Tory bus just because they hate and fear a tiny, tiny minority who are trans.
I fucking despair.

It's nothing to do with hate or fear of trans people. I will not vote for Labour their TWAW mantra is harmful to women and children and LGB people. It is a completely non-scientific belief system and I will not trust an individual or a political party who can't see that. They're on a par with flat earthers for me, except more dangerous frankly, because of the impact on safeguarding.