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To think if you work with people or children you should not be rude?

244 replies

StopInvolvingMe · 02/03/2023 17:12

Why are some people rude in the work place? It’s annoying me!

I visit schools each week to work with children and often have to go in classes to get specific children. There’s a particular person who is always very abrupt and rude to me. She talks to me like I’m one of her yr 2’s. Talking more slowly, emphasising words as if I’m stupid. She never smiles and acts like I am an annoying inconvenience because I’m interrupting her! She also tries to manage when I should visit- I’m more than flexible by the way and totally get some times are not convenient (eg I avoid core subjects sessions) but it’s yr 2 who are doing painting mainly when I’m there.

I spoke to the Head and it turns out this person is not even in a teacher (I had assumed she was the teacher as she’s always quick to respond when I go into the class) she’s the TA for Gods sake! Head then laughed and said she thinks she’s actually in charge and runs the school and rolled her eyes 😂 and offered to have a word with her. (I realise this is not personal and she likes no one)

so if you don’t like people / children why would you work in this environment? I don’t get it.

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DevantMaJardin · 02/03/2023 18:05

StopInvolvingMe · 02/03/2023 17:57

Oh god nothing another one who’s completely missed the point. Maybe there’s a lot of TA’s here hence the defensive replies.

I thought YWNBU until I saw the way you've spoken to people on this thread and now I think it's you not her.

CaptainMyCaptain · 02/03/2023 18:06

DevantMaJardin · 02/03/2023 18:05

I thought YWNBU until I saw the way you've spoken to people on this thread and now I think it's you not her.

Completely agree.

Penguinsaregreat · 02/03/2023 18:06

I think you could say this for many jobs.
Ive known therapists and social workers who cannot sort their own lives out. Health professionals who smoke like chimneys. Mental health professionals and police officers who are bullies.
I guess it’s just a job.

StopInvolvingMe · 02/03/2023 18:08

Seems to be many overly sensitive people here today. I just say things how they are, I’m professional and polite at all times in the work place, I expect the same back. That seems to be expecting too much though clearly! If people want to read into something that’s not there, that’s obviously your prerogative.

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MichelleScarn · 02/03/2023 18:08

DevantMaJardin · 02/03/2023 18:05

I thought YWNBU until I saw the way you've spoken to people on this thread and now I think it's you not her.

Yep, and this comment Don’t be daft! I’m not sneery at all, certainly don’t look down on people, this is more about people punching above their weight surely?
What do you mean 'punching above their weight' again sounds a tad rude. What's your role to decide someone is doing so?

WomanOfSteel · 02/03/2023 18:09

Any chance you’re in South Yorkshire OP? 😆

Walkaround · 02/03/2023 18:09

StopInvolvingMe · 02/03/2023 18:04

That’s not really the case, as I’ve said previously I’m very flexible about timings and liaise with the Head when it’s appropriate for visiting. I’m afraid I’m not responsible for what activities they do and when or whether her colleagues communicate effectively.

No, it’s not at all your fault she is not informed and you do not deserve to be caught in the crossfire, but you have demonstrated the problem there - you arrange things with the headteacher who probably has no clue and doesn’t care what is being interrupted - that’s someone else’s problem. And the headteacher is unprofessional enough to roll her eyes about another member of staff. It doesn’t sound like the best example of inclusive leadership.

MichelleScarn · 02/03/2023 18:10

Ah the old I just say things how they are but as long as its just you who does this? Anyone else who does the same is 'rude'?

BadNomad · 02/03/2023 18:11

Wow the head was very unprofessional talking to you about a member of staff like that. Where are you getting that she doesn't like children?

Icedlatteplease · 02/03/2023 18:12

I'm wondering how you walk into a room.

Usually if I walk into a room I'll wait for a break in teaching, then open with a bright "I'm sorry to bother you miss (or mrs name, may I...."

If im teaching I'll wait for the right moment and greet the visitor "good morning miss/sir" how can I help?

I also worry about your comments about only a TA. It doesn't matter who is in charge you model the behaviour you want the kids to show. So however important your errand, unless it involves immediately injury to life and limb, you treat it as secondary to whatever whoever is leading the class is doing

ScentOfAMemory · 02/03/2023 18:13

What are you getting the children out of the classes for?

StopInvolvingMe · 02/03/2023 18:13

MichelleScarn · 02/03/2023 18:08

Yep, and this comment Don’t be daft! I’m not sneery at all, certainly don’t look down on people, this is more about people punching above their weight surely?
What do you mean 'punching above their weight' again sounds a tad rude. What's your role to decide someone is doing so?

My role is to work directly for parents with their child. This involves liaising with a head teacher who will provide the school to facilitate my visits. My opinion is that I don’t expect to be greeted with condescending remarks and attempts to be managed by the staff who work within the school, hence the punching above the weight reference.

Luckily, the rest of my week I work with teaching staff who have some comprehension of why I’m there and are polite and respectful- as I am with them.

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Walkaround · 02/03/2023 18:13

It is odd you didn’t pick up on the utter inappropriateness of a headteacher laughing at a member of staff behind their back. Should someone like that be in a people-orientated profession?…

StopInvolvingMe · 02/03/2023 18:15

Icedlatteplease · 02/03/2023 18:12

I'm wondering how you walk into a room.

Usually if I walk into a room I'll wait for a break in teaching, then open with a bright "I'm sorry to bother you miss (or mrs name, may I...."

If im teaching I'll wait for the right moment and greet the visitor "good morning miss/sir" how can I help?

I also worry about your comments about only a TA. It doesn't matter who is in charge you model the behaviour you want the kids to show. So however important your errand, unless it involves immediately injury to life and limb, you treat it as secondary to whatever whoever is leading the class is doing

That’s exactly how I enter the room, polite, wait for a pause, then smile and ask if it’s ok to take X,YZ

totally agree about modelling good behaviour which is why there’s a problem here.

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MichelleScarn · 02/03/2023 18:15

Are you a play therapist or something who expects oohs and ahhs from lowly TAs?...

StopInvolvingMe · 02/03/2023 18:16

Walkaround · 02/03/2023 18:13

It is odd you didn’t pick up on the utter inappropriateness of a headteacher laughing at a member of staff behind their back. Should someone like that be in a people-orientated profession?…

No not odd, she’s a great head teacher, she was clearly letting me know that I WASN’T the problem

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StopInvolvingMe · 02/03/2023 18:16

MichelleScarn · 02/03/2023 18:15

Are you a play therapist or something who expects oohs and ahhs from lowly TAs?...

Lol no a bit more qualified than a play therapist

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Walkaround · 02/03/2023 18:17

StopInvolvingMe · 02/03/2023 18:16

No not odd, she’s a great head teacher, she was clearly letting me know that I WASN’T the problem

Well obviously you are not the problem. She is clearly not a perfect headteacher, though.

LuckyThatMyBreastsAreSmallAndHumble · 02/03/2023 18:17

The TA in my kid's class is rude. He has no social skills. The kids say he tells them to "stop pissing about" quite often. I really am starting to dislike him.

CaptainMyCaptain · 02/03/2023 18:17

StopInvolvingMe · 02/03/2023 18:16

Lol no a bit more qualified than a play therapist

There you go again.

Icedlatteplease · 02/03/2023 18:17

StopInvolvingMe · 02/03/2023 18:15

That’s exactly how I enter the room, polite, wait for a pause, then smile and ask if it’s ok to take X,YZ

totally agree about modelling good behaviour which is why there’s a problem here.

If you dont respect TAs you can't possibly
Be modelling good behaviour

StopInvolvingMe · 02/03/2023 18:17

CaptainMyCaptain · 02/03/2023 18:06

Completely agree.

Did you not read the op?

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StopInvolvingMe · 02/03/2023 18:18

Icedlatteplease · 02/03/2023 18:17

If you dont respect TAs you can't possibly
Be modelling good behaviour

What do you think happened?😂😂

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CaptainMyCaptain · 02/03/2023 18:18

StopInvolvingMe · 02/03/2023 18:17

Did you not read the op?

Yes I did.

LuckyThatMyBreastsAreSmallAndHumble · 02/03/2023 18:18

stayathomer · 02/03/2023 17:55

Some people are stressed or tired or fed up with the system, some people are just not people people! I’m not sure it was the best to tell the head teacher though

Perhaps if someone is not a "people person" they shouldn't get into teaching?!?!