Cyclists - Dan Walker

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No high viz clothing
No lights
Cycling cross lane
Car driver in lane does not chnge direction
Lights on
Cyclist comes across his lane
Cyclist does not give enough clearance
Back wheel hits car.

True interpretation : Cyclist hits car NOT car hits cyclist

Driver of car plastered across media for doing nothing wrong

You won't get it I'm afraid.

Majority of MN seem to hate cyclists and don't think they have any business on the road.

Knickerbockergloria · Today 10:43

Just watched the footage as well and exactly this! What on earth did you watch OP? I can't see how that is the cyclist's fault at all

The Mail has a different dashcam video; anyone watching yours and concluding that the cyclist is at fault probably still needs someone to tie their shoelaces.

Have you watched the video? Everything you have posted is 100% unadulterated bollocks. I hope you don't drive a car

Equally worrying is the 58% of people who voted that the op was right. No wonder so many cyclists are killed when that many people are clueless as to how to drive safely.

I've just watched it - the car basically just drives straight into the back of him as he cycles within the same lane he was always in. I don't see how that is anyone but the driver's fault.

The car in the video was 100% to blamee

Are you quoting the Daily Mail OP?

If I believed in karma I might think this has something to do with a recent channel 5 shit show.

Reported this for trolling. The OP is so grossly inaccurate it’s just a wind up, surely.

Not sure. The video I saw on the DM website looks far more ambiguous than the video being shared by the Sun which clearly shows the car changing lanes.

The lane the car is in merges to the left like a spiral in order to use 3rd exit.
You wouldn't expect to see a cyclist on that roundabout as there is a cycle lane that goes under it.
I can see why the car driver must have glanced in their left wing mirror and not seen him as Dan moves left to right within his lane.
Still the driver is at fault though but I drive that roundabout frequently and cyclists just don't use it.
So I can see why it happened but god knows why he didn't use the ramp and lane underneath.

Weird how no one blames motorists for being hit if their car isn’t adorned in hi-viz.

As someoe who sometimes cycles and always wears a helmet, hi-viz, bike lights, helmet lights and bike relfectors. Bad drivers who change lanes without looking and hit road users in front aren’t going to change their behaviour if a road user is luminous orange.

You wouldn't expect to see a cyclist on that roundabout as there is a cycle lane that goes under it.

The one thing you should expect to see on the road is other road users, like cyclists.
Cycle lanes are optional, and usually badly maintained and laid out, that's why many cyclists use their right to be on the road.

"a cycle lane goes under that round about where he was hit. Why he wasn’t using that I do not know!*
Probably because that underpass is often full of broken glass and also the exit of it was closed off for a while. I'm not sure if it still is. But he might have thought it was

What is it about cycling that inspires such hatred?
I drive a car, ride bikes, walk, inline skate, skateboard, and ride horses.
The most endangered by far I have ever felt was cycling (for fun and for commuting purposes) on British roads. It makes no sense.

And yes bike paths are great but they are unfortunately very inadequate. Imagine driving and suddenly being told to 'get out of the car and push' (Cyclists dismount). Or the road just ending (something like being in a two-lane roundabout where they decided to just plant a tree on one of the lanes without warning). Bike paths often end when the space on the road is already being reduced by traffic islands or narrowing of the road. If you have no awareness of this just watch out for it next time you go out for a drive.

Cars are dangerous to all other road users and roads do not belong to car drivers they belong to everybody who wants to move between two places.
'With great power comes great responsibility' as the saying goes.

And lastly: how much of a dick someone is has nothing to do with how they choose to move their body around.

I cycle a junction in central london occasionally. It has cycle infrastructure but I can't work out how to use it.

I've even gone to the junction without my bike to try and work it out on foot and am still none the wiser. I think this illustrates the issue with a lot of cycle infrastructure - it's badly designed.

My route to work goes along one of the designated quiet ways. It's very heavily used. At the moment there are road works in the cycle lane section (road here is westbound cycle way, eastbound mixed vehicle/ cycle and then a row of car parking spaces). Rather than remove a few parking spaces and put in a cycle lane diversion the contractor/ councils have just put up a cyclists dismount sign intending that the cyclists walk along a stretch of pavement.

Obviously the right of three vehicles to park there is MUCH more important that the thousands of commuters to actually cycle on a designated cycle route.

Clearly the drivers fault, obviously misjudged the distance and his speed when moving lanes hence clipping the cyclist. Not excusing what happened.

It's fascinating how some people think.

Cyclist hit by car becomes cyclist hits car.

And it's all the cyclist's fault because he should take a less convenient route, wear all sorts of strange clothing, adorn his bike with lights in broad daylight, hold a rigid line within a lane, regardless of any glitches in the road surface, or necessity to improve his view ahead, etc. No suggestion that the car driver should look out for other road users.

This. 100%.

Fucking hell... I can't see how anyone could think that was the cyclists fault, hes in his lane, where he remains until the car to his right pulls in behind him too close and hits his back wheel. Even if he'd had chance to see it theres no where to go as there is a car to his left.

As irritating and odious as I find him, doesn't seem like it was his fault. There are some dangerous cyclists on the road though just as there are some dangerous drivers. The amount I've seen when it's dark with lights off or not working and wearing dark clothes is scary though, not an issue in daytime but it can be really hard to see someone until you're pretty close if they don't have the appropriate lights and clothing at night. Hit and miss whether they stop at zebra crossings as well.

I don't know how anyone can watch that video and think the cyclist is to blame. The car rear ends him! I can see how the driver missed him as he was probably in a bit of a blind spot at the moment of impact, but equally the driver absolutely should have seen him in the seconds before.

It looks like a terrifying roundabout to cycle on, there's no way I would attempt that and I'm a fairly confident cyclist (also driver and pedestrian).

How does taking a selfie in an ambulance make you entitled? 😂

If you think the cyclist is at fault you should re take your test. Poor bloke gets driven into! Plus daylight you don't need high vis or bike lights.

I understand that getting stuck behind a cyclist can be annoying, but surely spending and extra few seconds of your journey not attempting to potentially kill someone is not an unreasonable ask?

I genuinely don't get why cyclists get such bile directed at them.