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Skinny privellege

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Annabella91 · 20/02/2023 08:40

Why is there shops full of clothes for women who are skinnt but nothing bigger i hate going clothes literally can never find anything in a size 16 it's all size 6 and 8 is the fat back in the 90s discrimination trend coming in again?? Shouldn't need to skinny to look nice??

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Comedycook · 21/02/2023 10:11

Smoothlines · 21/02/2023 10:06

But it’s the “skinny” who are suffering the rather nasty, judgmental, sneery comments -so perhaps it’s true that those who make such comments are failing in their morals.

Nonsense. Fat people get way more abuse hurled at them than thin people. The odd comment a thin person might encounter usually come from a place or either jealousy/admiration/concern. The comments made to fat people are pure venom and spite.

Feefee00 · 21/02/2023 10:14

Wanderingowl · 21/02/2023 10:02

Having above average levels of muscle mass is most likely far more effective than having excess body fat as a protective factor in the majority of diseases. It certainly appears to slow down both ageing and the effects of ageing. It significantly decreases both the chances of falling and the very significant risk to mortality that a fall entails in the elderly.

Anyone who wants to live a long healthy life should be aiming to maintain body fat levels that are ideally on the lower side of healthy while exercising to increase, then maintain, very healthy levels of muscle, while also working towards functional flexibility and healthy joints. The best way to maintain joints is to ensure balance in muscle building so joints are used evenly.

Yes so these slightly overweight elderly people I'm talking about still have full mobility low falls risk even with very severe dementia. I think good muscle mass is the key.

Stravaig · 21/02/2023 10:15

bellac11 · 21/02/2023 09:55

So what have I gleaned from this thread

That no matter what size you are, shops never really have enough of your size on the shelves and in any case the cut and tailoring (what tailoring!) in the UK is awful

That if you are fat you have full control to lose the weight and not be fat any more

Slim people are only slim through discipline and not eating as much as fatties, theres no such thing as 'naturally slim' people

But equally people who are underweight/slim just cant put weight on even if they want to, they dont have any control over this

Being a little bit overweight can protect you, but equally kill you.

People still define themselves via their size or weight and are surprised when others dont.

🤣👏😍

Yarrawonga · 21/02/2023 10:17

Nonsense. Fat people get way more abuse hurled at them than thin people.

I don’t think I have ever had any abuse for being slim. Quite the opposite. I have had the odd skinny reference which may or may not have been malicious but, like a previous poster, have always said thank you.

Comedycook · 21/02/2023 10:19

Yarrawonga · 21/02/2023 10:17

Nonsense. Fat people get way more abuse hurled at them than thin people.

I don’t think I have ever had any abuse for being slim. Quite the opposite. I have had the odd skinny reference which may or may not have been malicious but, like a previous poster, have always said thank you.

Well exactly... which is why I find it very tedious to be told by thin people how absolutely awful it is and how they are constantly being targeted with unkind comments

MarkWithaC · 21/02/2023 10:21

Comedycook · 21/02/2023 10:11

Nonsense. Fat people get way more abuse hurled at them than thin people. The odd comment a thin person might encounter usually come from a place or either jealousy/admiration/concern. The comments made to fat people are pure venom and spite.

I'm not going to argue that one lot of people get 'worse' abuse than another. But please do not minimise the insults/criticism/abuse thin people get just because fat people get them too.

Since adolescence I've had insults and abuse aplenty because I happen to be tall and lanky. At school people called me a Shire horse because of my height and long legs: shouting at at me, snorting like a horse etc. I've had the Addams Family theme sung and whistled at me and been told I'm Lurch the butler. I've had kids throwing things at me on the bus while shouting about how weird and lanky I look, 'like an alien'.

After I met my DP's parents for the first time, his mother asked him if I was anorexic. How insulting to me; and how much more insulting to people who are. She clearly had no idea what a person with anorexia actually looks like. The ignorance and presumption is astounding.

People sneer 'you're so skinny' at me; laugh in my face if I mention how hard it is to find clothes to fit and give me their own tales of woe about buying clothes while being fat (side note: often these people are not what I'd call 'fat' at all).
People tell me, if they see me eating an apple, 'No wonder you're so thin if that's all you eat', and in the next breath, if I'm eating a biscuit, 'It's so unfair you can eat like that and stay so thin.' Well, which is it? Plus, how fucking rude and how on earth do they think they know how I eat? I'd never say to a fat person eating a burger, 'No wonder you're so fat if that's all you eat'; it might be their first burger in a month (sometimes the apple is my first apple in a month).

I do not accept that there is no 'venom and spite' directed at thin people.

Comedycook · 21/02/2023 10:28

MarkWithaC · 21/02/2023 10:21

I'm not going to argue that one lot of people get 'worse' abuse than another. But please do not minimise the insults/criticism/abuse thin people get just because fat people get them too.

Since adolescence I've had insults and abuse aplenty because I happen to be tall and lanky. At school people called me a Shire horse because of my height and long legs: shouting at at me, snorting like a horse etc. I've had the Addams Family theme sung and whistled at me and been told I'm Lurch the butler. I've had kids throwing things at me on the bus while shouting about how weird and lanky I look, 'like an alien'.

After I met my DP's parents for the first time, his mother asked him if I was anorexic. How insulting to me; and how much more insulting to people who are. She clearly had no idea what a person with anorexia actually looks like. The ignorance and presumption is astounding.

People sneer 'you're so skinny' at me; laugh in my face if I mention how hard it is to find clothes to fit and give me their own tales of woe about buying clothes while being fat (side note: often these people are not what I'd call 'fat' at all).
People tell me, if they see me eating an apple, 'No wonder you're so thin if that's all you eat', and in the next breath, if I'm eating a biscuit, 'It's so unfair you can eat like that and stay so thin.' Well, which is it? Plus, how fucking rude and how on earth do they think they know how I eat? I'd never say to a fat person eating a burger, 'No wonder you're so fat if that's all you eat'; it might be their first burger in a month (sometimes the apple is my first apple in a month).

I do not accept that there is no 'venom and spite' directed at thin people.

I'm going to assume you're a man going by your username?

My posts are very much based on the female experience. I think thinness is praised in women and seen as desirable in a way it isn't for men

Sorry to hear about your experiences. It does sound horrible.

MarkWithaC · 21/02/2023 10:30

Comedycook · 21/02/2023 10:28

I'm going to assume you're a man going by your username?

My posts are very much based on the female experience. I think thinness is praised in women and seen as desirable in a way it isn't for men

Sorry to hear about your experiences. It does sound horrible.

No, I'm a woman.

Comedycook · 21/02/2023 10:32

Oh sorry, I assumed because of your username!

Annabella91 · 21/02/2023 10:35

My thin and uncle and nan bullied me for years about my weight but that's OK because I'm fat I'm not a bad person for saying shops don't cater for above a size 14!

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SallyWD · 21/02/2023 10:43

Annabella91 · 21/02/2023 10:35

My thin and uncle and nan bullied me for years about my weight but that's OK because I'm fat I'm not a bad person for saying shops don't cater for above a size 14!

No. Of course you're not a bad person. It's just most other people have seen plenty of larger sizes in shops!

Annabella91 · 21/02/2023 10:46

My slim uncle and nan bullied me for years about my weight but that's OK because I'm fat so i deserve to be abused for it.
I'm not a bad person for saying shops don't have much for anyone who isnt slim because they don't. I once went into a shop to be told nothing will fit you because your fat big people get treat like shit like we shouldn't exists!! thin people are seen as worthy and not shamed when they walk into a shop just to look at what's in.

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Annabella91 · 21/02/2023 10:51

I'm a half real fat woman l've had 1 c section and 2 natural births 🤣

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Calphurnia88 · 21/02/2023 10:54

Annabella91 · 21/02/2023 10:35

My thin and uncle and nan bullied me for years about my weight but that's OK because I'm fat I'm not a bad person for saying shops don't cater for above a size 14!

You're not a bad person but they absolutely do cater to sizes above a 14.

Loudhousefun · 21/02/2023 11:11

M&s always sell out in size 10’s and 12. The larger sizes and 6’s they tend to have a lot more of, I have given up going in there now.

LolaSmiles · 21/02/2023 11:12

They make them to fit the 50% of the people at the top of the anthropological bell shaped curve. That’s their market.They don’t really care about the ones at either end. They just want profits.
Exactly this.
Got broader than average shoulders, regardless of weight, you are probably going to find jacket shopping more awkward.
Got a hip/waist ratio outside of the bell curve, regardlees of weight, you're going to find it harder to find things to fit and suit.
Got legs much shorter/longer than the bell curve, especially pelvis length, you're going to find trouser shopping more difficult.

People are viewing everything through the lens of their own hangups and weight issues, which are their issues to process. There's no need to wallow in self pity to a point where you're convincing yourself that there's some conspiracy where shops won't sell anything to someone because of their weight.

HunterHearstHelmsley · 21/02/2023 11:31

I had a mooch in a sale yesterday after reading this thread. There was very few 14 & 16. No 12s at all. Plenty of 6, 8, 18, 20 and 22.

It could be where you're shopping, when you're shopping, a multitude of things.

Annabella91 · 21/02/2023 11:42

Thats a lot of crap jeez lol I know of people who eat takeaways never diet abs drink a lot of alcohol but still remain slim also they never exercise they drive everywhere lol slim people don't always work hard to be that way.

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Annabella91 · 21/02/2023 11:47

Thats a lot of crap jeez lol I know of people who eat takeaways never diet while also drinking a lot of alcohol but still remain slim also they never exercise they drive everywhere lol slim people don't always work hard to be that way.

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TheOrigRights · 21/02/2023 12:07

Loudhousefun · 21/02/2023 11:11

M&s always sell out in size 10’s and 12. The larger sizes and 6’s they tend to have a lot more of, I have given up going in there now.

M&S have been crap for a couple of years now. MASSIVE marketing campaigns for the upcoming season etc, and yet NOTHING in stock (before the season has even arrived), or you put it in your online basket and it's gone before you check out, or you order it and then they email to tell you it's no longer available.

Swiftbushome · 21/02/2023 12:22

I know of people who eat takeaways never diet while also drinking a lot of alcohol but still remain slim also they never exercise they drive everywhere lol slim people don't always work hard to be that way.

While I'm sure this is true its also true that there are plenty of fat people who sit on their arse eating pies all day long as well. Why do you have to judge other people? And calling someone skinny is an insult. Sorry but it is. If you want to compliment someone then "slim" is a nice word. In the same way that "big" is better than fat. And I'm aware I used the word fat a moment ago. I did that to show it works both ways.
For the record I am neither "skinny"nor "fat". I'm average size I guess. But I wouldn't use either of those terms to describe someone else because its bloody rude!

Calphurnia88 · 21/02/2023 12:26

They make them to fit the 50% of the people at the top of the anthropological bell shaped curve. That’s their market.They don’t really care about the ones at either end. They just want profits.

Pretty much.

When I worked at a very popular high street clothing retailer I used to process their weekly deliveries. We would generally get 1 x XS and XL, 2 x S and L and 3 x M of each garment.

Seasonofthewitch83 · 21/02/2023 12:30

Swiftbushome · 21/02/2023 12:22

I know of people who eat takeaways never diet while also drinking a lot of alcohol but still remain slim also they never exercise they drive everywhere lol slim people don't always work hard to be that way.

While I'm sure this is true its also true that there are plenty of fat people who sit on their arse eating pies all day long as well. Why do you have to judge other people? And calling someone skinny is an insult. Sorry but it is. If you want to compliment someone then "slim" is a nice word. In the same way that "big" is better than fat. And I'm aware I used the word fat a moment ago. I did that to show it works both ways.
For the record I am neither "skinny"nor "fat". I'm average size I guess. But I wouldn't use either of those terms to describe someone else because its bloody rude!

You missed the point.

There are people in smaller bodies who will have fatty internal organs from a shit diet, no exercise, drink and smoke. The point it, you do not look at them and make any judgements because you have presumed they are healthy. A fat person is automatically assumed to be unhealthy. Its a double standard.

People are diverse, they come in all different shapes and sizes, and no one owes you good health to be treated fairly and with respect.

Nothing wrong with the word fat fyi. Its just a descriptor.

Swiftbushome · 21/02/2023 12:37

I don't think I have missed the point. I don't look at anyone and make a judgement (unless they were so big or small they looked really unwell I guess)
The OP was talking about "skinny privilege" I was pointing out that's bollocks. And it's rude to call people skinny. Although I do think it's rude to call people fat as well. Definitely

Seasonofthewitch83 · 21/02/2023 12:39

Swiftbushome · 21/02/2023 12:37

I don't think I have missed the point. I don't look at anyone and make a judgement (unless they were so big or small they looked really unwell I guess)
The OP was talking about "skinny privilege" I was pointing out that's bollocks. And it's rude to call people skinny. Although I do think it's rude to call people fat as well. Definitely

Its bollocks to you, but its an accepted term at how fat people have to live with bias every single day in terms of judgement from other people, receiving improper medical care, or just generally living in a world that does not cater for them.
Being able to walk into a high street store that caters for your size is a privilege.

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