Skinny privellege

[Annabella91]

Why is there shops full of clothes for women who are skinnt but nothing bigger i hate going clothes literally can never find anything in a size 16 it's all size 6 and 8 is the fat back in the 90s discrimination trend coming in again?? Shouldn't need to skinny to look nice??

Yes I agree. Whilst being hugely obese is obviously not healthy, there is actually research that shows being very slightly overweight is actually a positive thing...it's there if you google it.

Do you have any scientific information to support that, please, FeeFee00.

Just Google...is being overweight healthier. Lots of stuff comes up. It's actually really interesting.

I asked for scientific not a google search result, @Comedycook . Did you think of some very thin actresses and models?

Not necessarily. The majority of slim people are probably happy with their weight. Although maybe not their body shape, given an absence of fat doesn't automatically equate to what society considers a pleasing figure for a woman. Models are not simply very thin. They are thin in a proportioned way, and typically also young and beautiful.. A whole package. This is not remotely the same as Jane down the road who just happens to be 5' 8" and 7 stone.
And just as you get a few OW people who can't lose weight whatever they try, you get some very thin people who can't gain it either. These women are not necessarily happy with themselves and would likely be very hurt by being called skinny.

Yes I've read it I've also seen it in practice. My long stay hospital during covid we lost many to COVID. A gentleman caught it three times he was a bit overweight in his late 80s still didn't pass away. I really think the weight was a protective factor.

Those studies remove cancer mortality from their results. Making them absolute worthless bullshit as they remove the leading cause of death in humans. A disease which is highly influenced by diet and weight. Being overweight significantly increases cancer risk. Being underweight does not.

The search result will show you the research that has been done....

I never mentioned any thin models or actresses so I have no idea why you're specifically asking me to name some.

Excess weight was a significant risk factor in Covid mortality as the virus was able to evade the immune system by hiding in adipose tissue, where it multiplied more rapidly. Anecdotes are not science.

Read the post above yours, any study on over all mortality that excludes cancer deaths is worthless.

www.newscientist.com/article/2317296-people-over-80-with-overweight-bmi-may-have-lower-mortality-rates/

Being underweight or overweight obese is never healthy especially when younger. Peddling that underweight is also healthy is wrong , your immune system becomes less able to fight off infections.

I get an 8 (or even a 6..daft) from Next and again, it's fine.

Don’t you think that as an average person it’s a bit silly that a Next size 6 will fit you. It’s the smallest size they sell.

I’m smaller than average but by no means “skinny” or “tiny” and have had to give up shopping in Next and M&S unless I want a scarf or something similar because none of their clothes fit me.

Oh, sorry, it might not have been you.
Search engines will show all sorts of results, and not necessarily scientific proof of what someone said that fat reserves were beneficial to fighting infection.

I was talking about the very elderly and not obese but overweight so BMI between 25-29. The healthiest is a healthy BMI of course neither extreme is healthy.

This is absolutely true!

@Feefee00 , not many very elderly people are obese.

So what have I gleaned from this thread

That no matter what size you are, shops never really have enough of your size on the shelves and in any case the cut and tailoring (what tailoring!) in the UK is awful

That if you are fat you have full control to lose the weight and not be fat any more

Slim people are only slim through discipline and not eating as much as fatties, theres no such thing as 'naturally slim' people

But equally people who are underweight/slim just cant put weight on even if they want to, they dont have any control over this

Being a little bit overweight can protect you, but equally kill you.

People still define themselves via their size or weight and are surprised when others dont.

www.uea.ac.uk/news/-/article/how-the-body-uses-fat-to-fight-infection

Fighting off infection uses large amounts of energy to power the immune system. Your appetite also further reduces when ill. Neither extremes are beneficial for good health.

I didn't say obese did I ? Yes there are overweight elderly people I work in that sector. We are more concerned with those who stop eating and need top up nutrition Vs those who are a bit overweight.

The Chinese study doesn't stand up to scrutiny either. It has a mean grouping of age 93 for people at the beginning of the study and doesn't control for how many overweight and obese people actually make it into their 80s. Taking people who have reached that age as a starting point, again makes it ridiculous in determining the healthiest weight for longevity.

The problem is being overweight is seen in our society as being a moral failing. Therefore those who aren't often view themselves as morally superior.

Having above average levels of muscle mass is most likely far more effective than having excess body fat as a protective factor in the majority of diseases. It certainly appears to slow down both ageing and the effects of ageing. It significantly decreases both the chances of falling and the very significant risk to mortality that a fall entails in the elderly.

Anyone who wants to live a long healthy life should be aiming to maintain body fat levels that are ideally on the lower side of healthy while exercising to increase, then maintain, very healthy levels of muscle, while also working towards functional flexibility and healthy joints. The best way to maintain joints is to ensure balance in muscle building so joints are used evenly.

I was responding to a PP who suggested clothes were made for the average person, and said that I think I am that 'average' person, except I am not average in height (taller) or weight (slimmer), so yes, I agree with you entirely.

But it’s the “skinny” who are suffering the rather nasty, judgmental, sneery comments -so perhaps it’s true that those who make such comments are failing in their morals.

I think a normal BMI is optimum unless you have large amounts of muscle mass. Either underweight/overweight isn't healthy really. The NHS spends a fortune on both obesity and underweight.