Boris Johnson wants a 2nd bash at being PM. We wouldn't. Would we?

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Today BJ is stirring up the DUP to oppose Sunak's N Ireland proposals, whatever they may be. Surely there can't be a second chance for the idiot responsible for our current mess? There aren't enough stupid people in our country to let him in again I hope. Will he unseat Sunak?

Spot on @User18936572 I do this on every single thread on mumsnet. It takes me about 100hours each day.

If they avoided the sneering and strawmanning, I would read them. But, as I said, I only ever see that kind of post. Do you not realise that a lot of people can’t spot sarcasm, thorough no fault of their own? You just end up confusing and derailing on a lot of the threads you’re on.

But I see from your latest post that you just can’t help yourself.

It's hard to take these threads seriously

Don't know. It's immensely irritating though. As is the misrepresentation of the F&G board (not sure I've seen many people saying they'll vote Tory, even if they have said that various Tories have publicly acknowledged what a woman is).

Saying you can't vote for Labour doesn't mean you'll vote for the Tories! Seemingly hard for some Labour die hards to understand.

Anyway, back to BoZo...he can't afford to be PM as it doesn't pay enough and he'll get too accustomed to earning shit loads on the after-dinner circuit. I think that's a lifestyle he prefers.

I find it very easy to take Boris seriously, he is a wonderful man, he got Brexit done and knows what a woman is.

I'm sure Boris is doing a lot better that any of us, I certainly wouldn't mind 5 million in the bank, I doubt he will seriously want to be PM again though

People love him.
They see him as an any politician. Like Trump. The guys a parody of himself.
He won't run again someone will stop him.

I've seen people say that they will vote Conservative because they know what a woman is. There are also constituencies where withholding your vote will enable a Conservative candidate's victory, and increase the chances of another Conservative government. I wouldn't have thought that was too difficult to understand.

It is very difficult to understand apparently and don't mention the harms that Conservatives have done to this country particular women for the last 13 years.

Yes, I said I hadn't seen 'many', meaning I have seen some. I haven't seen huge numbers though.

And why should we be forced into voting for a party we absolutely don't agree with just to keep the Tories out? If non-Tory parties want our votes, they need to be offering a party we want to vote for.

I want Labour as much as I want the Tories (and LDs / Greens). Not at all. It's a difficult position to be in.

I agree with a pp - he won’t retry now, he’ll get his finances in order, Labour might (esp if Starmer uses the Isla-man-convict debacle to retract his men are women if they say they are statements) win, but Boris will win the next one.

MN is quite left leaning - or rather, the majority of posters are vocally supportive of Labour, but the “silent Tory” is around in huge numbers. They engage at the polls, not online because the left sneers so much so they called the last election wrong, the Brexit ref result wrong - if you see on here that Starmer can win, it’s meaningless really. My local pub predicts the election results better.

The silent Tories show up in opinion polls, fear not.

www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.html

Also in deeply conservative places in by-elections like North Shropshire and Tiverton.

jgw1 you keep omitting to add. BJ knows what a woman is FOR. Nobody would argue with that.

I didn't want t be crude, but you are of course correct.

O sorry, jgw1, I see you did mention BJ's primary function, and relevant knowledge, after all, apologies. Keep it up, I find your posts most entertaining.

George Osborne is currently on Andrew Neil show suggesting Keir 🍻will be next in line.

Did I?

I am glad my posts brighten your day.
I sometimes find it a little hard to take seriously posters who go on about Starmer not knowing what a women is. Makes a chnge from But Corbyn I suppose.

jgw1
Also in deeply conservative places in by-elections like North Shropshire and Tiverton

Your link says this in FAQs;

Also, by-elections are a famously poor predictor of general elections.

Oh jgw1, you've woken her up now. Er, I have to go out now. Night all.

There's no cutnpaste, so I think it is an imposter.

It also says

Will you get all the seats right ?
No. The predictions are based on the law of averages, but any individual seat could be wrongly predicted. Also if the opinion polls are wrong, that will cause more seats to go wrong. Usually about 50 seats are incorrect. Look at the track record for details of elections since 1992

www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/faq.html.

Absolutely.

Good thing parties don't make big deal of by elections then

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57019456

On a walkabout in Hartlepool with the victorious Tory candidate, Boris Johnson said her win was a "mandate for us to continue to deliver" for the north-east of England and the rest of the country.
"If there is a lesson out of this whole election campaign across the whole of the UK is that the public want us to get on with focusing on their needs and their priorities, coming through the pandemic and making sure we build back better," added the prime minister.

(See - I found a link and posted it)

But if they are wrong by 50 seats, Labours majority might only be about 200.

The hell with it. For the first time ever I'm agreeing with George Osborne ex Tory Chancellor and the constructor of Austerity. If he thinks Keir's a winner I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I think there must be analysis of each seat and the swing needed to gain it.

National opinion polls are one thing but I think it gets much more interesting when looking at local constituencies and the relative vulnerability of each seat.

I think the lack of a Brexit party, the fact that Brexit "has been done" (but has it?") and the potential of the Reform party standing will make things even more interesting.